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Typical Pakistani falsehood. Can you for once tell the truth as it is. Imran Khan is sh.itted of the Taliban blowing his party workers and him into the great whorehouse in the sky, so he refrains from criticising them. So I suppose you too support the attacks on little girls going to school? Bullets to the head and using gas to attack their schools? Yeah and Jews knew about 9/11 beforehand, CIA did 9/11, Bin Laden is still alive or he died in 2002. What other conspiracy theory are you going to peddle. So how did Khan's party win in Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa? Did the CIA not have enough manpower to win a state with 1/10 the population of Punjab?

The musalmaan had abused a lot of people here but he complains when I called him a LIAR. He displays the usual Musalmaan trait of being the aggressor who when attacked then claims to be the victim! The only pagal kuttay I have seen on here are Musalmaan who come here for a few days, display their Islamic supremacist gandh and then go back to their sad lives watching revert videos and reading how great the Islamic empire was and how evil the Americans and the West are. He lied when he claimed that non-Muslim places of worship aren't allowed in Saudi Arabia because they do not allow the ownership of private property by foreigners. He claims to know because he lived there. He doesn't seem to know that the law was changed in 2000. So why have we not seen Gurdwaras, Churches, Synagogues and Mandirs in Saudi Arabia in the last 13 years? The liar won't tell you that if someone has a non-Muslim religious text in Saudi Arabia then it will be confiscated and destroyed. Imagine how the Islamic rageboy will react if someone destroyed in the Quran in a non-Muslim country. The root of Islam is falsehood and hypocrisy. He claimed that he considers the Arabs as nothing, yet in Pakistan the Arabs are close to being worshipped. The liar's whole belief system teaches him that he has to emulate the 'prophet' whose whole lifestyle is what being an Arab is all about. Yet he makes remarks against the Arabs!

I don't think you can blame our PunjabiPakistani friend, Islam has a tendency to turn people into LIARS. Oh Dear, there I wrote it! Now some of the liberal Sikhs on this forum will attack me for being a 'hater' or spreading 'hate'!! Let me explain. I will take one example out of many. His excuse for the Saudis not allowing non-Muslim places of worship in their country is because the Saud family has a monoploy! He is clearly lying. If non-Muslim places of worship are so welcomed in the rest of the middle east, then why aren't the organisations that oppose the Saud family's rule not making that as one of the reasons for why they want the Saud family out? Well, they don't because even the most ardent enemies of the Saud's know that by refusing to allow non-Muslim places of worship in Saudi Arabia, the Sauds are following the teachings of Mohammed. Mohammed that 'peace unto mankind' was the one who ordered the Muslims to make sure that there were no non-Muslim places of worship in Arabia. So why would our PakistanPunjabi friend give a totally false reason for why non-Muslim places of worship are not allowed in Arabia? don't think that he is that stupid or ignorant not to know the true reason. Could it be that he is a LIAR? As for the Punjabi language in Pakistani, it's doing great according to our friend. How great a language is doing in Pakistan can be seen from the fact that the only existing Punjabi newspaper in Pakistan was founded in 2004! And our friend thinks we Punjabis from East Punjab are jealous of the Punjabi from Pakistani!! There is an interesting article about the status that Punjabi has in pakistan. http://www.gowanusbooks.com/punjabi.htm Our friend wants us to believe that his ancestors were converted to Islam by Sufis rather than what by a combination of a Muslim's sword and the oppressive Islamic state's discriminatory policies. One can understand why he wants to believe the former rather than the latter. In fact this is a tendency that one finds in most Muslims from Pakistan. No one whats to admit that the faith that they have was thrust upon their ancestors at the point of a sword. As the Sufi excuse has been wearing a bit thin nowadays, I have noticed some Muslims who now want us to believe that their ancestors were Sikhs and not Hindus! They know how difficult it was to convert the Sikhs to Islam by the sword, so they can now claim that their ancestor was converted not by the sword but by the 'truth' of Islam!

There's nothing more funny than a Muslim complaining about the injustice he has suffered without ever realising how ironic his complaints are! My posts were based on hadiths and Muslim political history. As I said, the truth often hurts but that doesn't make is less.

We've just seen the amazing transformation of a seemingly moderate Muslim who wrote all the bukwas about sharing our Punjabi culture turn into a extremist just because he had to read a few facts about his religion of 'peace'! The truth can be hard to swallow sometimes and we've just seen how indigestible it can be for a Muslim. He came on here thinking that we would be impressed by the bukwas he came up with, he probably gets that a lot but on this forum people know what's what. His Islamic BS was challenged and all can do is call people id.ots A typically moderate Muslim who when scratched becomes RAGEBOY. He proclaims how great his religion is yet chooses to live in the land of the infidels. No doubt he'll say he was born in the west or his parents brought him over when he was young but there's nothing stopping him moving to the 'great' Islamic world. He could move to Saudi Arabia, but they probably only need Pakistani camel jockeys. The only uses the Saudi Arabs make of Pakistanis is either as camel jockeys or as the main attraction in the beheading of drug dealers! In the Arab world they look at him just as a southern redneck would look at a black guy. He could go back to Pakistan which is a basketcase living off handouts from the Americans. He is proud of the 1000 year rule of Islam but that period was probably the one where his ancestors were forcibly converted to Islam. One has to be pretty low down to be proud of the time that his ancestors were given the option of death or Islam. Countless Sikhs were also given that choice and they chose death, but we can be thankful of PakistaniPunjabi01's ancestors that they made a choice that led to his existence and how great has been his contribution to the world!!! And to cap his insanity, he uses the example of an American girl becoming a Muslim as proof of how great his religion is. Don't worry my friend when people of other religions convert to our religion they live positive lives and become an asset to their community. I hope that girl leads a positive life but that's highly unlikely. The chances are that she will probably wind up dead in some Islamic hell hole just as that daft bint did a few days ago. Nah, ten year old's are too old. The girls need to be nine years old because uncle wants to emulate the 'mercy' unto mankind!

You're quite right, the Jews were victimised unfairly but unlike the Muslims of today, the Jews weren't actually trying to take over the west by out-breeding the host population. Because of the way the Jews were treated, the Muslims are getting a pass from the liberal media. As for Jews and their hidden agenda, whereas 'protocols of the elders of Zion' is discredited in the west, in the Islamic world that publication along with Mein Kampf enjoy huge sales and are regularly quoted by Imams. Unfortunately for you, a lot of people are getting educated in what Islam really is. Which is a political movement like Fascism or Communism disguised as a religion. By scholars with credential that usually mean Muslim scholars who know that if they say anything negative about Islam they will be the next ones to get beheaded or non-Muslim Scholars enjoying the patronage of Arab money who again fear the same thing as well as losing their heads, they also stand to lose their livelihoods. It's the same thing the Mafia does. They send some well dressed guys to sell a business insurance (protection) and if they don't take the insurance then the Mafia sends goons to to smash up the place and and when the business wants to buy the insurance then the rate is doubled! The Muslims offered the Byzantines, conversion to Islam, Protection money (jizya) or War. What would you expect a highly advanced civilsation going back a thousand years to do when, in their view they were threatened by a bunch of desert dwelling savages? Don't try and sell your revisionist BS here my friend, people here are not stupid. So let's transfer your outdated 7th century 'religion of peace' diplomacy to the modern world. The Americans would be quite within their rights if they offered the Iraqis and Afghans the choice of becoming Christians, or paying protection money. Now as the Iraqis and Afghans have chosen to fight the Americans then according to your 'advanced' civilisation, the Americans can take any Iraqi and Afghan women as sex slaves. The married ones would have their marriages anulled. Obama could always take the other option offered by Islam, ransom the women back! If you are true Punjabi then thank Waheguru that you belong to the land that gave the world Guru Nanak and Guru Gobind Singh. The first who taught that the oppressor should be taken to task for his actions and the second who taught the Punjabis how to avoid becoming another bunch of Arab clones trying to out-Arab the Arabs! I feel sorry for you because your ancestors weren't able to be on the side of the Gurus and were probably forcibly converted at the point of a sword. The next global war is between Islam and the rest. We should be thankful that no Islamic country has achieved the technological advancement that Europe, USA or even China has achieved. If they ever do then the Muslims will not be able to stop emulating the early Arabs by threatening other nations with conversion, blackmail or war. It's true, your rehni-behni might be the same as us but your SOCH is totally alien to non-Muslim Punjabis. You make a great deal about our commonalities but that didn't stop your people from massacring thousand of innocent Sikhs and Hindus in the villages of Rawalpindi district in March 1947. If the commonalities were so great then there would have been no partition just an independent Punjab inhabited by Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus. One thing that 1947 proved was that religious differences are greater than ethnic and linguistic commonalities. The sad outcome is that Sikh Punjab is ruled by Hindi speaking Hindus in Delhi and the Muslim Punjabis can't even give their mother tongue official status! Sorry if the above comes as a shock but it's best to speak the truth.

I don't get your logic. If Rajoana had lived in the 1940's and assassinated Jinnah then he would have been a hero like Bhagat Singh to all the Hindus in India.

No doubt some racist cop is monitoring this forum. But we need to play the game. Anyone who feels that he has been harassed or unfairly treated by the police needs to make an OFFICIAL complaint. Just as they are scared to take action against the Muslims because their organisations will start to shout Islamophobia and racism, we need to also show the Police that we also know how to play the game, If you go the non-cooperation way then go all the way. Every Gurdwara should also stop inviting the local MP Keith Vaz to their functions. He has been constantly harping on that there is no racism involved in the way the groomers choose their victims. He has been mudding the waters for years.

No one is denying the role of individual Hindus in the atrocities of the 18th century. Some Hindus like Lakhpat Rai persecuted the Sikhs because they wanted personal revenge as well as in order to retain their position in the Muslim government. For Muslims it was a different matter. Just the proclamation of Jihad was enough to get thousands into the countryside to commit atrocities against the Sikhs, Trying to portray Muslims as the victims of 1947 shows just where your sympathies lie. Let me educate you on the Islamic mentality and a short history lesson. Muslims were the first aggressors and used violence as a political tool to achieve Pakistan. They attacked, murdered, raped, burnt and forcibly converted thousands of Sikhs and Hindus in the Rawalpindi area in March 1947. Their aim was to use the violence to silence the Sikh opposition to Pakistan. They waited for a backlash in East Punjab as they were well aware that Sikhs would not take the violence lying down. When no backlash came they were elated because they thought that years of economic success had made the Sikhs soft. They thought their aim to make the Sikh accept Pakistan would now be mush easier. This was the reason that they never seriously tried to make overtures to the Sikh leadership. Neither Jinnah not any other of the Muslim leaders expressed any express for what happened in the massacres. Prior to the Rawalpindi massacres, there had only ever been riots in the urban area in which mostly the same amount of Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs would be killed. The Rawalpindi massacres were the first attempt to wipe out the non-Muslims from the area that was slated to become Pakistan. The Sikhs were the ones that were particularly targeted because the Muslims believed that if they could use violence to close down the Sikh opposition then the Hindus would automatically accept Pakistan and the whole of Punjab would become a part of Pakistan. The Sikhs in the Rawalpindi area were caught unawares, from living a peaceful life, they were suddenly attacked and their lives and livelihoods wiped out. Whole villages were destroyed. At least when the Muslims were attacked in East Punjab after partition, they were aware that attacks were taking place and could prepare to defend themselves. But the Sikhs in March 1947 didn't have that luxury. When it comes to the fatalities suffered by the different communities it is generally assumed that the Muslims suffered the most. This is just an assumption and not scientific research has been done to back this up. UK Singh has shown that in as a percentage the Sikhs lost the most lives. If Sikhs suffered less deaths it was not because of some let up in the Anti-Sikh violence, it was because they Sikh leadership being aware that Pakistan would involve an exchange of populations and thus were able to make ready of that eventuality. Sikhs refugees were evacuated in an orderly way and their refugee caravans were the most organised. They had outriders to check out the route, armed guards for defence and ample supply of food. This was not the case with the Muslim refugee caravans. Even with this level of orderly evacuation, the Sikhs still suffered over 200,000 deaths which for a small community of 5 million was a disaster. Half of the Sikhs had become refugees and had to be settled on less land than they had left behind in West Punjab. The Muslims were the winners in the partition. From being tenants of the Sikhs they suddenly became the owners of the Sikh lands. From being small time businessmen they suddenly had their pick of all the large Hindu businesses in West Punjab.

The 0.1% might have started the persecution but the over 99.9% actively took part in the genocide after Banda Singh Bahadur up to the 1780s. It was Muslim bands that used to go into the lakhi jungle to hunt down Sikhs in order to claim the rewards from the Muslim government, It was the Muslim masses that again murdered lakhs of Sikhs in 1947. It's interesting how some Sikhs are able to switch off their brains when it comes to Islam. Sikhi is the very antithesis of Islam. A question was asked on another thread of what would happen to Sikhs if Islam became dominant in a country when Sikhs reside. Islam demands that Sikhs as non-Muslims become dhimmis and as such live a second class existence. Part of the dhimmi contract is that the dhimmis have to not wear swords or keep weapons. How will that work for the Kirpan? Below is the dhimmi contract Will Sikhs be able to live in any dignity with the above conditions in force? Maybe we should all just shut our eyes to the Islamification of our countries and hope that when the Muslims are in charge, LegalSingh could find some loophole in the contract that would allow non-Muslims to live in dignity!

I wouldn't put it past the authorities to put agents into the EDL marches to have them shout racist slogans to blacken the name of the EDL. Tommy Robinson from what I have seen and heard of him through his speeches seems to a level headed guy who is worried about the way his country is being turned into an Islamic hellhole. The liberal establishment including the media are scared of all the support the EDL are getting after the Muslims murdered the British soldier. They are hoping that they can make the EDL appear to be a racist organisation and then all the ethnic minorities as well as the vast majority of the white population will steer clear of the EDL. The government probably hope that of they throw money at the Muslims then they will stop the extremists amongst them but we all know that the Muslims just see this as weakness and will up their attacks.

Get rid of this gandh in the next Gurdwara election

Those muppets of the Sikhs against the EDL will be protesting against the EDL demo at Downing Street. Ironic how they don't do anything about Professor Bhullar case but will come out to protest against the EDL.

That's the same dumba*s that was jailed for 6 years last month http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/25/british-muslim-convert-jailed-terrorism

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/4od

I would suggest that any Sikh who comes across anything like that on twitter should report it to the local police. Putting something on twitter is the same as if you have published it. Until some arse*ole is taken to court and gets a custodial sentence these idiots won't stop.

Wow Neo Siyan! I never thought I would live to see the day when you would come out against Islam (ok, so it's sunni sharia Islam). I remember advising you some years ago that you will have to take off you rose tinted glasses and realise how dangerous Islam is, but I never thought it would be so soon!

Footage of the Islamic terrorists attacking the police after the murder of the soldier; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oIJfMa5GIE

Footage of the Islamic terrorists attacking the police after the murder of the soldier; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oIJfMa5GIE

You have a point in that a soldier or what one would term a legitimate target was attacked and not innocent civilians. But then again the way they killed him was inhuman especially the fact that they beheaded him. To the person who thinks it might be a inside job because the two idiots shouted out 'Allah hu Akbar' what else do you expect Muslims to shout when they are about to attack? Sikhs in London especially East London need to be careful. The Gurdwaras need to get the sangat in to protect them during the night time. The politicians keep on talking rubbish that every community will condemn the attack (ie the Muslims as well), when we know most Muslims will be secretly rejoicing while expressing outrage in public. The country now has over 2.5 Muslim potential terrorists. No wonder Cameron is rushing back from Paris, he must be wetting his pants at this moment!

The Pakistani community is very close knit and if someone is taking part in these activities then their friends and relatives would have been aware that it was going on. Considering that these activities take place over many years, do you really think that these guys taking young white girls in their cars, going to empty flats in groups or hanging around school gates weren't ever seen by anyone else in their community? The Pakistani community has known these things were going on for years but because these girls were non-Muslims and therefore worthless according to Islamic belief then they see nothing wrong with what these Pakistanis were doing. You are both giving the Pakistani community a free pass that they do not deserve. The Pakistani community will only do something against these own paedos when the other communities and government wake up and start protecting their children and these Paedos start to target their own community.

After the interesting pictures I found online about the Sikhs of Chile, I came across these images of Sikhs in Brazil and how they are running a school for local children. We might to agree 100% on the views of the Yogi Sikhs but they are active in bringing their lifestyle to the knowledge of the wider public. This also brings Sikhi to the attention of people who would not have had an opportunity to know about it. http://community.sikhdharmaworldwide.org/your-stories/brazilian-sangat/#jp-carousel-273 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mOzlHhS_2Qc

I don't know how idiots like Sue Berlowitz can sleep at night. PC fools like her are enabling these grooming gangs to get away with their crimes.

Either refute him or keep quiet. Interesting how rather than being outraged at the story about the abuse of non-Muslim girls by Muslims, you chose to only see the word 'paki' and that caused you to be outraged. You are clearly a dhimmi.

And id.iots like those 5 Sikhs who constitute 'Sikhs against the EDL' lol as well as the same five who constitute the so-called Turban Campaign! Those five PC id.iots are one of the worst case of enablers of paki paedophiles