Goli Da Vair Sada

sikhi camp changed has changed me forever. guru kirpa i hope i stay on this high forever.

heat sikhing missle who sed anything bout sikhs never sinning? u stated in a earlier post that keepin kes was 1 of the last ORDERS as u put it from the gurus. i was simply stating that all ORDERS r as valid as the ova. i dunno wat i sed to get u so defensive or insulting for that matter. im not sayin ur any less or more a sikh then any1 else. i was simply making a point. ur right bout 1 thing tho i do hav a long way to go before i can call my self a sikh of the guru.

heatsikhing missile from first to last all ORDERS as u put it are as valid as the other.

to fight a guerilla war i guess its always good to know and learn many tactic. that doesnt neccesarily mean that all those tactics can be used be a sikh. but u can always take the good and leave the bad.

they sold most of the burkas to muslim women. thats messed up. sikhi is against women being forced to wer a veil etc. its jus as bad as sikh nowadays who own off licenses. thats wat we become nowadays. do anything to make money.

we dont even kno why they killed him, it dont say. for all we kno he deserved it. so why make judgements on the four accused without hearing the whole story??

i admit that justme's last post got me worried cus it sounds kinda serious

i admit i came straight to the last page and i dunno wat this topic is about :wub:

^^^ lollllllllllllllllllllllllll. thats sum good stuff.

ocelot ur right. any1 that pushes the issue gets arrested or more. mann has been tortured bare tyms. he was given the old electric shock treatment. manns toes have actually moulded together. thats how bad he was tortured.

maybe i didnt make myself clear enough. u sed: You can stand in a street in Panjab or in a court of law for that matter and shout Khalistan and I’m a Khalistani your free to say that, you couldn’t stand in the streets of England and claim to be an IRA or Al-Qaeda member you go to prison to join the elderly people they lock up for not paying their council tax. i sed: being members of militant outfits such as al-qaeda or ira is 1 thing. yeh u prob will get arrested. just as in india being members of babbar khalsa or kcf u'l be arrested. being members of militant outfits is 1 thing, protesting peacefully for independant states r another. in u.k u wudnt get arrested for protesting peacefully for an independant state so wat u on about? u'v jus compared 2 totally different things. well done. u compared being pro khalistan supporter (khalistanis) wiv proscribed terrorist organisations such as al qaeda and ira. in the uk if u was pro irish independance u wudnt be arrested so wat u on about? but if u claimed to be a member of a proscribed terrorist org u wud. such as alqaeda and yes babbar khalsa well done. just as in india if u claimed to be pro khalistan u wudnt be arrested (well atleast sumtyms) but if u claimed to be member of babbar khalsa u wud be. my point was u compafred to different things i.e ppl who r pro sumthing but do it by peaceful means and and ppl that claim to be sumthing but r proscribed terrorists. get ur facts right.

try this www.sikhhelpline.com maybe they can give u sum advice on wat to do

arnt there any elder sikhs u can turn to in order to sort this out?

being members of militant outfits such as al-qaeda or ira is 1 thing. yeh u prob will get arrested. just as in india being members of babbar khalsa or kcf u'l be arrested. being members of militant outfits is 1 thing, protesting peacefully for independant states r another. in u.k u wudnt get arrested for protesting peacefully for an independant state so wat u on about? u'v jus compared 2 totally different things. well done.

that comment wasnt aimed at u.

ov course, ur so very gud and im so very bad

bhaji no 1 is sayin that. the onli reason we got on to this ws cus of other posts, i suggest u read previous posts to understand better. however u do make alot of valid points. wjkk wjkf

an no its illegal to hav a ak47 in punjab. he's chattin it. u can own shotguns yeh, but u can in uk 2. all u gotta do is apply for a gun license. im not biggin up u.k, both india and u.k hav laws that restrict sikhs.

i aint ur bruv? maybe u shud start actin like those khalseh u always describing. ur always talkin about todays extremist sikhs etc being hate filled. ur jus as hatefilled as those u describe. u make me laugh.

yeh bruv make sure u get ur nihang license signed by the govt first tho yeh bruv

u kno as well i do that sangat is very important. one shud choose there sangat well as the way those act around u will rub of on u. if u wanna learn jung vidiya go ahead. just choose who u learn it off wisely.

true niddar singh can teach u how to fight. i used to go to his akhara, i learnt sumpowerful stuff at his akhara. but at what cost? i also heard sum of the bull he chats. jung vidiya is great and if u can learn it then pls do cus it will definately help u. but niddar singh and the rubbish he chats cud corrupt ur sikhi. jus cus he teaches jung vidya doesnt mean u shud learn it from him, sum 1 who corrupts the teachings of the gurus. we shud not hav contact with ppl like this.

the singhs wer there to defend darbar sahib. even if sant ji wud hav left they still wud hav entered the complex to make sure sant had left. the idea was to kill sant and not to get him out of akal takht. so they wud hav entered still just like they did other gurdwaras in punjab to flush out all militants. wat right do they hav to enter darbar sahib? none at all. sant and the other shaheed singhs stayed in darbar sahib to defend it and try to stop the army entering which wud have been sacrilige. yeh i kno wat u gna say in the end more sacrilige was done but sant done the right thing standing up to the govt and showed them that harminder sahib is not their and there army cant enter wen they want.

did this geeza just use unbiased and kushwant singh in the same sentence? and let me guess, i bet the other book u read was written by mark tully yeh? lolllllllllllllllllll. both tully and khuswant singh wer tight freinds and associates of indira gandhi and the indian govt. maybe its you that hould read a few unbiased bboks mate. everybook is gna lean towards 1 or the ova. try reading both sides. it sounds like u already kno wat u wanna believe tho. maybe u shud talk to ppl who lived through it and not believe just wat u read in a book.

*EDITED* GEEZA LEARN ABOUT SIKHI WAT U ON ABOUT SIKH POLITICS HAS NUFIN TO DO WIV RELIGION NO MORE. THIS GEEZA OBVIOUSLY KNOWS NUFIN ABOUT SIKHI WITH A COMMENT LIKE THAT. Mod Note: Please don't post in CAPS.