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You go to any website which belongs to sikhs and you'll see at least one topic talking about RSS. Now there is no topic which has been dedicated to this org so our cybers sikhs would know what they are and what they do and their past and present...

Here im starting discussion in which I will try to post information to inform fellow sikhs about them.

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Distortion of Sikh History in School Textbooks

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RSS Enlisting Activists In Rural Punjab

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RSS Asked To Stop Anti-Sikh Campaign

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Sikh Bodies For Ban On RSS

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RSS Literature Denigrating Sikhs

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Leaders Defend RSS Agenda

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Anti-Sikh Organization - Rashtriya Sikh Sangat

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Indian Express

February 19, 2000

The Spreading Family

Jagtar Singh

It is the khaki invasion of Punjab. The Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh did not go the Akali way once it joined the tercentenary celebrations of the birth of the Khalsa in April last. The Akalis virtually forgot all about it and continued to be busy with their infighting.

It was the RSS which took upon itself the responsibility of propagating the ideas and ideals of Guru Gobind Singh, the 10th Guru who founded the Khalsa, in the interiors of Punjab countryside. It is a different matter that the radical Akalis have demanded a ban on this organisation. Till date, the RSS has covered 4,000 out of about 12,000 villages and by the time the state-level function is organised at Amritsar as part of the tercentenary celebrations on April 2, the target is to establish contacts in about 8,000 villages. According to the RSS leaders, out of the 500 shakhas being organised in this border state, about 250 are in villages. Not only that, huge quantity of publicity material has been brought out, including one lakh calenders. They have been distributed all over the country.

For the people in Punjab, the literature is in Punjabi in Devnagari script. "For us, Guru Gobind Singh is a national hero. He integrates the Punjabi society. What we are doing is also for the integration of that society," explained an RSS leader. Radical Sikh leaders interpret the RSS designs as an attack on the exclusive Sikh identity. "In this integration, there is negation of a separate Sikh identity," said an Akali leader. These leaders go back to earlier similar attempts when Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha, a Sikh scholar

, brought out a pamphlet "Hum Hindu Nahin."

At one stage in Punjabi, the Punjabi Hindus disowned their mother tongue to confront the Akali demand for a Punjabi suba. The RSS move is now being seen as an attempt to decommunalise that section of the Hindu society also. The members of the Rashtriya Sikh Sangat, an organisation affiliated to the RSS, recently approached the Damdami Taksal, the Sikh seminary once headed by Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, to get their men trained in Sikh religion and philosophy. "We told them we admit only Amritdhari Sikhs. They did not approach us again," said Taksal spokesman Mohkam Singh. "We will become Amritdhari also," says the RSS leader.

The RSS treats the Khalsa as a sect of the Hindus created by Guru Gobind Singh to confront Islam, as apparent from the literature. Hence the objection by the radical Sikhs to the designs of the RSS in this border state who assert their exclusive identity. The agenda of the RSS in Punjab is: "The RSS is actively pursuing the philosophy and the path shown by Guru Nanak and Guru Gobind Singh. The RSS has the same perception of a healthy society and an ideal nation as that of the Guru Khalsa. Both these streams are flowing to get assimilated in the same ocean. The need is to integrate both these streams for the speedier flow of the national mainstream." The RSS extensively quotes Guru Gobind Singh to hammer the point that Khalsa was created to strengthen the Hindu society.

The Sikhs are described as yet another Hindu shakti kendra. Even the setting up of the RSS is claimed to be in accordance with the ideals of Guru Gobind Singh. RSS leaders say that the Panj Piaras (five beloved ones) who were the first to partake amrit were from all over the country on the analogy of the Hindu maths set up by the Shankaracharaya earlier. The RSS writings also refer to Bachittar Natak, considered to be an autobiography of the 10th Guru to point out that the Sikh Gurus were Suryavanshi and descendants of Lav and Kush, the sons of Bhagwan Ra

m. Giani Puran Singh, the Jathedar of Akal Takht, the supreme temporal seat of the Sikhs, received a lot of flak from the Sikh scholars when he dwelt on the theme of the Sikh gurus being descendants of Lav and Kush. Then there is a questionnaire prepared by the RSS for the school-level competitions which has generated a lot of controversy. Now some of the questions: * To which caste Bhai Mardana belonged? * Which of the Sikh Gurus were Sodhis? * What was the

name of the Pathan who stabbed Guru Gobind Singh? * Which Mughal emperor detained Guru Nanak? * Name the Guru who deputed forces to liberate Ram Janambhumi? * Name India's first bachelor prime minister. * In which war with Pakistan not an inch of the land was allowed to be occupied? CPI veteran Satya Pal Dang has expressed strong reservation about the questionnaire and has brought it under the notice of Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal.

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In The Name of Religion

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A renewed hate campaign - RSS: Forced Retreat

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Two Sides of the Same Coin

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Loonies At Large

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Srikrishna Report: Police Wireless Conversation Transcript

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Hindutva Leaders prepare for Civil War in India

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RSS-SECRET DOCUMENT

Released 29 March 2000

Reproduced below is secret RSS document recieved from India. This has been translated from Gujarati by a secular activist whose identity is being witheld. Please

share this with others.

(South Asia Citizens Web)

Posted March 29, 2000

Defend the Hindus from the attack of Christians with the support of Law

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1. The Hindu samaj (society) is being attacked repeatedly by non-religious elements of the country. They are supported by Pakistan, Bangladesh and Arabcountries. In the same way Vanvasi and poor areas are being attacked by the missionaries on the basis of their economic strength.

2. The Hindu not only loves his religion but also is a lover of festivals. Centuries ago, these festivals had been arranged taking into consideration the birthdays of our great personalities and also the changes in the seasonal cycle. In these celebrations we usually organize various public functions such as pooja, arati, mahaprasad, and varghodo. Each and every section of Hindu samaj (society) takes part in it. Our pilgrimage centres also are filled with devotees coming for darshan on certain fixed days. More than a crore devotees take a holy dip at the Triveni Sangam at Prayag on Maudh amavas.

Recently we have seen that daily lakhs and lakhs of people make pilgrimage to have a holy dip at the Kumbh. Besides these, melas are being organized in small villages on chaitra purnima, vaisakhi, karthik purnima, Mondays of the month of sravan (June-July) and on Saturdays. Together with faith and darshan, people enjoy some fun (on such occasions). These melas have now become the targets of non-believers (vidharmio). Not only that these people cannot suffer the rapid growth daily of the VHP, Bajrang Dal, Durgavahini and to a certain extent the political parties like the BJP.

We and our institutions are being attacked by lethal weapons like bombs, AK 47 and rifles.

3. In our country, all the activities undertaken by the subversive forces are criminal in nature. Cases are filed about such criminal activities. But using money power they outsmart us. The police forces are also not enthusiastic to book them since they have close contacts with them. On such occasions we are not able to exhibit proper awareness and smartness and as as result the criminals find open field for their activities. The court also is not able to do anything. Not only that under one pretext or another, they tend to flourish more and more.

4. In the Vanvasi areas of Surat, Christian Fathers and Missionaries are inflicting atrocities on our Vanvasi brothers and sisters. Threats, inflicting injuries and also incidents of <hugs for you! awwww> assaults on our sisters are taking place. Since our samaj (society) lacks sympathy and proper guidance, no complaints are filed of such incidents and even if they are filed, they outsmart us with their money and influence.

Children of our leaders and higher authorities are studying in their convent schools and because of that their institutions are able to exert an influence on our officials. Recently the missionaries engineered an attack on the Sangh Shakha of Isanpur village in Mandvi Taluka. News has been reported of the <hugs for you! awwww> assault on Undha, a Vanvasi sister at Anandpur village of Ucchal Taluka by Reverend Ramanand Baudh. Police was not taking any action when a complaint was filed in the village and was not apprehending the accused. At last when our activists of the area represented the matter, the police got scared and they were forced to arrest the Padri (reverend).

5. Hindu samaj has been repeatedly attacked in Surat City. The original inhabitants are very frightened and subdued and yet in this samaj, there were courageousindividuals such as Nares Naicam, Bala and Devlo. The Muslims plotted to finish off

these three and so engaged sharp shooters and within a short time by eliminating them, they have tried to weaken the samaj. In order to show on record that they have caught the culprits, the police rounded up some people and reported that they have caught the culprits. But it is our bad luck that the real assassins were caught only after several months. Our government was not able to keep these accused in the jail. In this context, we shall try to understand some of the legal implications, to see how we should remain alert as (Sangh) activists.

6. Criminal procedural code is one of the main legal provisions wherein the investigation of the crime and provisions related to the duties of the police etc., are included.

7. There are two types of crimes. In cases where there is provision for punishment for two years or less, where the (accused) can be granted bail is called bailable offence.

8. Consider the case wherein one is caught in a crime and if the crime is a bailable offence, even if the police catches the offender they are bound to release him on bail. According to the criminal procedure code, article 436 (1), if the accused is not charged with non-bailable offence, if the in charge of the police station detains him without warrant or if he is produced in the court of if he surrenders in the court and if he is under the custody of such a police officer, then at any time or at any stage during the court procedure (the Judge) is ready to grant bail, then such a person is released on bail. Even after granting bail, if the police does not release him, then complaint can be made about it to the magistrate.

9. Another distinction in law is cognizable offence and non-cognizable offence. Which is a cognizable offence and which is non-cognizable is given in the provisions of the criminal procedure code, article (2) a. According to it, an offence is cognizable wherein the police officer can, according to the first schedule or following the law in force at that time, detain (the offender)

without warrant.

10. In the court language, it is called cognizable and non-cognizable offence. Two separate registers are maintained in the police station for recording these offences. In cases where the police have no authority to book a person without warrant, which are non-cognizable offences such as minor cases of using offensive language (bad words), inflict minor wounds in a scuffle, use threats (not threats of murder) etc., they are registered as non-cognizable or (N.C.) offences and are registered in the N.C register.

Suppose it is a case of ordinary injury only, then the complaint is filed in the NC register and then he is sent to the government hospital for treatment and after getting the certificate of injury, it is noted down in the NC register that if the complainant wishes to file complain in the court, he is free to do so and the signature of the complainant is affixed below the note.

11. Serious offenses are mostly cognizable crimes. Important provisions as how to register complaints in this regard are given in the criminal procedure code, article 154 and 156. They are as follows:

1. The police station in charge has to record oneself or make someone else take down any information regarding crimes, which come under the purview of the police, even if it is given orally. He has to read it out to the one who provides the information and make him sign on the written information. And he should write the summary in the record book in the proper form prescribes by the state government.

2. Under subsection (1), one copy of the written document should be given immediately, free of charge. to the one who makes the complaint.

3. If the police station in charge refuses to record the complaint, then the person who is thus refused can write the main pointsof the information and inform the superintendent of police. If the superintendent is convinced that the police officer has failed in his duty, then he can do a police enquiry himself as laid down according to he

above rule or he can order his subordinate officer to do the same and such an officer will have all the powers of his superior in the relevant case.

The powers of the police officer to investigate police cases under article 156:

(1) The officer in charge of the police station, without the order of the magistrate, can investigate the cases of police officer in the areas falling under the local police station under the provisions of chapter 13.

(2) Citing the reason that he has no such power to investigate, no objection can be raised at any stage against the action of the police officer in such cases.

(3) Any magistrate having powers under article 190, can order police enquiry as mentioned above.

Two important things are to be noted; (1) serious crimes are cognizable which are reported to the police station should be noted down immediately and, (2) the complainant should be given a copy of the written complaint after affixing his signature to make sure what is written in the complaint. Our experience is that even after filing complaint about certain anti-social and criminal elements who are involved in crimes, police was not recording their names even after their names were supplied and so the police was trying to save them because they receive 'hapta' or regular bribes from them and also they share their tiffin (lunch box). The persons who have complained can find out if the police has committee such irregularity when they read the copy of the complaint.

12. Another additional provision is that if the police officer either refuses to write down the complaint or has not written as narrated, then the superintendent can be informed through the post. After we post it, the crime will be registered and the steps will be taken and in doing so, much time will be wasted and many times the objective of the complaint will not be fulfilled. So instead of sending by post, sending a telegram will be better, even if we have to spend more money. Actually after preparing the

telegram if it is shown to the police officer and when he reads it, he will realise that the complainant will not bow down to any pressure from anyone and wanting to save himself, will register the complaint.

13. We are being attacked often. There are attempts to disrupt our festivals. Stones are pelted at the chariots of the Lord and recently incidents are reported of bombs being planted and

sometimes firing from automatic weapons. Non-believers are threatening grass-root workers while they are engaged in social work. They have the right to defend themselves when such incidents occur, but along with it, it is essential to file complaint about it immediately.

14. As mentioned above, according to criminal procedure code, article 154, whatever complaint is accepted in the police station, a short summary of it is made in the station diary and then the complaint is recorded in the book as First Information Report. The First Information the police records of the crime are considered First Information Report. This can be done orally or sent through telephone, telegram, or in writing. This FIR plays a very important role in the judgment of the case in the court. In order to decide whether there is sufficient proof to convict the accused, information conveyed by the complainant about the facts immediately after the even took place is very important.

Many times, the details of the crime, names of witnesses, reason for the crime etc. are very much known by the complainant and in spite of these details are naturally known to him, if these are not entered in the FIR and after the lapse of some hours or days, if they are revealed in the police enquiry, it is argued that they are made up stories and then the case becomes suspect at the first glance itself, if the complainant side is not able to give adequate

explanations for these delays. If the complainant side is not able to give adequate explanations for these delays, then the accused takes advantage of this and even if the crime was committ

ed in broad daylight, in the presence of hundreds of people, the accused is acquitted. So if we are involved in such cases, we have to be alert and in dictating the complaints the following care should be taken:

a) Complete details of the culprit including his address should be given. Suppose you do not know these, then description of his face, his clothes and what sort of footwear he wears, the language he uses and the sort of voice of his in speaking should be given, because these details help the witnesses to identify the culprit when he is caught and paraded in front of them.

B) Details of the crime: How and which way the criminals came, whether single or in a group, what they were speaking, which way they went back and what they were speaking etc.

c) Whether the criminals, while running away, have left any signs at the site of the crime or not. Many times in the scuffle, the criminals leave their footwear, clothes, and weapons. If they are injured, then drops of blood etc., should be reported.

d) Which criminal has inflicted wounds on which part of the body by which instruments on the persons who are of the party of the complainant.

e) The type of the vehicle in which the criminals came, such as scooter, motorcycle, rickshaw, car, tempo etc., and if possible its registration number and if not, the details of the colour and the make of the vehicle.

f) Actual details of the place where the crime took place and the evidence to prove the place of the crime. Suppose that at the place of the crime there are drops of blood if someone is injured or there may be a pool of blood, and if there are signs of being hit by sharp instruments such as an axe or dhario (sickle like weapon), then these are enough proofs to show that it is in the location of the crime. You can also include details such as stones thrown at the locatio

n or fire balls.

g) Names of witnesses of the crime.

h) If the incident has taken place due to other events, then the causes for such, which are called 'Motives'.

i) Many times the attackers had pre-planned the assault and if so such details.

j) When we make a complaint, we need to be very well prepared. Sometimes influential people commit crimes and they replace them with ordinary people like their servants as the culprits. On such occasions, if you are alert, you can give the names of those elements who are responsible, their names can be implicated in the case right from the beginning. The law contains the word "chance-witness".

We understand that in any crime if there are no clear evidence then the accused will not be punished. Many times, incidents occur in such locations where even though there are witnesses of the crime, such as when a person is beaten up, they will not come forward to testify as witness. If the accused is shrewd enough, then he will present himself together with his people to the police and declare that he is ready to provide evidence and thus provides witnesses. These witnesses may be staying close to the place of the crime and so can be very important witnesses. But since they are in collusion with the accused right from the beginning, they can change their stand in the court and as a result, the accused are let free even though they have committed the crime. We should not become victim to this conspiracy.

k) It is necessary to give the names of witnesses when we make the complaints. In some instances, when the witnesses may not be willing to stand witness, we should arrange to have our men as witnesses. Many times real witness also may give answers anyhow when cross examined and as a result, the reliability of the witness suffers. So when we give the name of the witness in the court first we have to make sure whether he will remain firm in the court and also whether he is reliable otherwise.

The accusation of "chance witne

ss" is a very effective weapon in the hands of the accused. Many times, the witness does not live near the place of the crime and there is no reason for him to be present at that particular time and place and in fact if he is an outsider, such a person is called "chance witness" in legal parlance. But if the enquiring officer as well as the lawyer pleading for the complainant are alert, then the presence of such chance witness can be

shown as natural.

l) In order to prove the crime, the one who gives the complaint should make sure of the names of the accused and the witnesses and they should be arranged if need be.

m) The person who makes the complaint feels that the police have noted down his complaint, and have arrested all the persons whose names were give and have done the proper procedure. After breaking down the (Mosque) at Ayodhya, in whatever incidents took place in Surat, the police had detained both Hindus and Muslims. But the State Government was ruled by Aurangzebs. As a result, when the Hindus are caught in the cases, the police penal codes were applied to their crimes. Sometimes they were implicated in attempted cases of murder. These Hindus were implicated in serious types of crimes and were detained in the jails for months. The police used to detain Muslims in equal numbers and some times in more numbers and on the following day at eleven in the morning as they were presented before the executive magistrate (mamlatdar), they all used to be granted bails and so were left free to go home. They used to twist their mustaches as if to challenge us as that we can do no harm to them. All these were arranged by a Muslim minister and other senior leaders of the Congress Party.

In such a situation we have to be alert and now that we have our own government we (should take the proper advantage of it) and should get our work done by it.

15. Thus if we are attacked in any incident, we should take care to follow the precautions mentioned above and make the complaints imme

diately.

16. One of our volunteers learnt that a Christian Padri (pastor) had sexually assaulted a vanvasi sister in the Uchhal police station area and the police who were in collusion with the Christians deliberately did not apprehend the pastor even though they could have done it. When the woman volunteer approached the concerned police authority, she was told that he was under police custody and he was produced before the Vyara Magistrate, and that he is in the Vyara jail etc.. The woman was fearless. She told the police officer to show her the pastor wherever he is and at last under her pressure the pastor was arrested after three days. I told her that the police misled her for two days. She was suspecting that from the beginning the police was telling her lies. The police officer will not behave in this manner if you show him in writing whatever he has said and if you read it to him as if you are going to send it as a telegram to the Chief Minister, Home Minister and the District Superintendent of Police.

17. Recently, the Honourable (Home Minister) Haren Pandya has issued a very important circular from the Home Ministry. If the police is not ready to register the crime, then the complaint can be given to the executive magistrate (mamlatdar). We believe that such complaints can be made to the sub-divisional magistrate (deputy collector) or even to the District magistrate (collector). According to the circular, it is the duty of the authorities to send the original complaint to the police and to instruct them to register the crime.

18. The main attack on Hindu Samaj is that our sisters of tender age are being abducted through offering them inducements and allurements and then they are made to sign on the marriage register after getting converted by force. Hundreds of Hindu girls are being (converted to Islam) made Muslims like this in Gujarat State.

19. There are three articles in law related to this. It is a crime to abduction any woman who is below 16 years of age from her gu

ardian according to section 363 of Indian Penal Code (IPC). Forcing a woman against her will to prostitution or to marry becomes a crime under section 366 of I.P.C. It is a crime of <hugs for you! awwww> assault under section 367 of IPC to force a woman to have sex with her. Even if a girl below 16 years has given her consent to have sex, it is a crime of <hugs for you! awwww> assault. The age of the girl is important in cases of abduction and <hugs for you! awwww> assault.

Mostly it is not difficult to save girls who are not legally adults. But it is difficult to get back adult women from the clutches of these (anti-social) elements. Unfortunately the girl's own people, such as mother, father, brother, or uncle are not enthusiastic in this task. If the girl's party is prepared, then using even by using threats and punishment and taking law into our hands and unmindful of any violence or untoward incident takes place, we should take the girl into our custody. In a criminal circumstance, if the girl is kept under custody, even if they were married on record, that person will not be given custody of the girl. In such situations, there is a provision to sent the girl to the home for protection of women. It is not wrong if we can lift the woman and keep her under our custody. But girl's people should take the initiative.

20. Many times the girl does not agree and if habeas corpus petition is filed in the court, and there if the girl changes her mind, we will be let down. As I mentioned earlier, these problems are not going to be solved by Law under the protection of the Police or the Court. The Hindu Samaj needs to resort to social opposition to find a solution to this and even resort to violent attacks if necessary. In the case of Halvad village a Muslim boy abducted a Brahmin girl. The girl was of age and the case was under investigation under the Halvad court.

On the day of the court verdict, the Miyo (Muslim) was bold enough to move around the vill

age with the Brahmin girl. The people got excited because of this. Not five, twenty five, hundred, two hundred but more than thousand people pounced on them with pipes and iron rods and in front of the court in session. The police ran away, the magistrate and his staff hid under the table to save themselves and the Muslim and the Hindu girl were beaten to death by the people and their dead bodies were left in the court room. Case of murder was registered and many people were arrested also.

The matter was recorded in the court and the magistrate also gave his statement but since thousands were involved, no one was convicted. The incident of Halvad is etched in golden letters in the proud history of Hindu Samaj. Revenge of this type is necessary against such abduction of our girls.

21. In the Vanvasi areas, attempts are being made to implicate our Vanvasi brothers and sisters who are not trapped by the inducements offered by the missionaries, in legal clutches. We should take revenge for this also. In the complaints we file to take revenge, we should implicate the top authorities of the mission and if possible foreign missionaries also. They may not be convicted in the court in the end, but they should be made to go up and down the court for months on end

and thus their having to undergo harassment is also a type of punishment.

22. The cause of cow protection is also important for us. After Gitaben was attacked fatally and she was murdered, there was amendment made to the Bombay cow protection act of 1954 and complete ban on cow slaughter was imposed. But taking into consideration the judgement of the Supreme Court, the in case of similar nature in the Madhya Pradesh Law, the Honourable Gujarat High Court has judged that the amendment is constitutional. In actual fact, there is need to amend the Constitution for this.

Our Constitution is framed by vain secularists and not by the patriots who are coloured by Hindutva. Our people are fooled by saying that Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru an

d his supporters have made provisions in the Constitution against cow slaughter. In the article 48 of our Constitution, dealing with the provisions to the scientific development of agriculture and animal husbandry in order to improve the stock of cow breeds, provision is made in the Constitution to prohibit slaughter of weak cows and their progeny. According to cow protection law, before cattle slaughter, it is necessary to obtain the certificate from the proper authority stating that the cattle is fit to be slaughtered. These authorities collude with the agents and collaborate in the slaughter of cattle that is taking place daily.

We should keep a strict watch on the daily activities of these authorities. Nagarpalikas, municipal corporations, zilla pancchayats and even the government are all ours. Strict action should be taken against these authorities, through all these. It is prohibited to slaughter young cows and any female progeny of the cow which is useful in farming or any other type of use or if it can yield milk or can give birth to a calf. Is this law in force?

23. Even if the cow protection law is enforced completely, cow slaughter can be stopped. This year before Bakri Id and on the day itself, we undertook many confrontations and as a result we were able to save the lives of thousands of gaimathas (cow-mother goddesses). But for this at least we need to prepare two months in advance and organize the Hindu samaj on a grand scale, then we can achieve much result.

Cattle are exported by truck and for this transport permission is needed. The shifting of cattle should be done under the purview of the law to prevent cruelty to cows. Such legal provisions exist. Where the transfer of cattle is taking place, those Hindu brothers who are involved in this business should be made to understand and made to stop this business. We should make efforts to pass off the Bakri Id days by making true or false complaints related to cow slaughter. We can do much work by building good relationship w

ith the police and getting their collaboration.

24. The provisions of the law are not the type that can be explained by writing on paper It demands the study of the day-to-day amendments of the Law and judgments in the court etc. In reality, our main task is to enforce the existing Law through the government authorities and the police.

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it was the RSS that saved the maximum number of Sikhs during the 1984 Roits & partition of India. During 1984 it was the Congress workers (Hindu's & Muslims) that attacked Sikhs & RSS strong states like Maharashtra, Sikhs were safe. It was RSS workers who helped families of Refugees from Pakistan in camps reunite. While the congress government was asking refugees to abandon the premises occupied by them. Ask any old family memeber who experienced partition in Punjab and he'll tell you.

Thread to show that they are against us now.

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But now they are going against Sikhs and other miniorities of India.

Let's proceed.

Community - " Distortion of Sikh History in School Textbooks "

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Community - " Distortion of Hindu History"

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RSS is totally an org of "bania" in Gujrat and their main mission is to become superpower of india and turn this country into Hindu country or their so called Hindu-stan which is quiet impossible because Hindus have so many beliefs and Gujrati gods are not acceptable in south and north Hindus beliefs. RSS work with its other cousins groups.

Shiv Sena/Bajrang Dal/VHP and BJP they all work together and back up RSS... BJP backs up RSS just to get votes but in reality the main power or you can say pro RSS are VHP/Bajrang DAL and Shiv Sena.

contrinue....... I will add more stuff soon.

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i dont think saying "ignorance is bliss" is appropriate.. we r victims of white people's ignorance.. lets not become like them.. or propagate ignorance..

and no i didnt read the entire thing.. i just asked a specific question if Congress is RSS.. and u answered it..

as for reading the article.. well if i was jobless and didnt have college i wouldve read it

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    • I agree we're not born with sin like the Christians think. Also I agree we have effects of karma. But Gurbani does state that the body contains both sin and charity (goodness): ਕਾਇਆ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਪਾਪੁ ਪੁੰਨੁ ਦੁਇ ਭਾਈ ॥ Within the body are the two brothers sin and virtue. p126 Actually, we do need to be saved. Gurbani calls this "udhaar" (uplift). Without Satguru, souls are liable to spiritual death: ਜਿਨਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨ ਭੇਟਿਓ ਸੇ ਭਾਗਹੀਣ ਵਸਿ ਕਾਲ ॥ p40 Those who have not met Satguru Purakh are unfortunate and liable to death. So, yeah, we do need to be saved, and Guru ji does the saving. The reason Satguru is the one to save is because God has given Satguru the "key" (kunji): ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਥਿ ਕੁੰਜੀ ਹੋਰਤੁ ਦਰੁ ਖੁਲੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਗੁਰੁ ਪੂਰੈ ਭਾਗਿ ਮਿਲਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੭॥ In the True Guru's hand is the key. None else can open the door. By perfect good fortune the Guru is met. p124
    • That's unfortunate to hear. Could you give any more information? Who was this "baba"? He just disappeared with people's money? Obviously, you should donate your money to known institutions or poor people that you can verify the need of through friends and family in Punjab.
    • Sangat ji,  I know a family who went Sevewal to do seva sometimes end of 2019. They returned last year in great dismay and heart broken.  To repent for their mistakes they approached panj pyaare. The Panj gave them their punishment / order to how t make it up which, with Kirpa, they fulfilled.  They were listening to a fake Baba who, in the end, took all the "Donations " and fled sometime over a year ago. For nearly 4 years this family (who are great Gursikhs once u get to know them) wasted time and effort for this fake Baba. NOT ONLY this one fam. But many, many did worldwide and they took their fam to do seva, in village Sevewal, city Jaitho in Punjab. In the end many families lost money in thousands being behind this Baba. The family, on return, had to get in touch with all the participants and told them to stop.  I am stating this here to create awareness and we need to learn from whom we follow and believe. It's no easy but if we follow the 3 S (Sangat, Simran and Seva) we will be shown the light. As I am writing this the family in question have been doing the same since 2008 onwards and they fell for this Baba... it is unbelievable and shocking.  This am writing in a nutshell as am at work on my break so not lengthy but it deserves a great length.  Especially the family in question, who shed light on youngsters about Sikhi 20 plus years!! 
    • Giani Kulwant Singh Jawaddi Kalan uses simple Punjabi.
    • Leaving aside Guru ji, the general question of taking afeem (opium) in limited quantities for war/medical wounds is simply unproblematic. When you go to the hospital, they give you morphine. What do you think morphine is? It's an opiate. Even codeine (cough syrup) is an opiate! Ever had a cough? Granted, it is against Gurmat to take opium or other drugs for the fun of it.
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