Listen To This Wonderful Thing, O Siblings Of Dest

[Balwinder Singh]

Awsw ]

Aasaa:

aasaa.

First, the son was born, and then, his mother.

pahilaa poot pichhairee maa-ee.

The guru falls at the feet of the disciple. ||1||

gur laago chaylay kee paa-ee. ||1||

Listen to this wonderful thing, O Siblings of Destiny!

ayk achambha-o sunhu tumH bhaa-ee.

I saw the lion herding the cows. ||1||Pause||

daykhat singh charaavat gaa-ee. ||1|| rahaa-o.

The fish of the water gives birth upon a tree.

jal kee machhulee tarvar bi-aa-ee.

I saw a cat carrying away a dog. ||2||

daykhat kutraa lai ga-ee bilaa-ee. ||2||

The branches are below, and the roots are above.

talai ray baisaa oopar soolaa.

The trunk of that tree bears fruits and flowers. ||3||

tis kai payd lagay fal foolaa. ||3||

Riding a horse, the buffalo takes him out to graze.

ghorai char bhais charaavan jaa-ee.

The bull is away, while his load has come home. ||4||

baahar bail gon ghar aa-ee. ||4||

Says Kabeer, one who understands this hymn,

kahat kabeer jo is pad boojhai.

and chants the Lord`s Name, comes to understand everything. ||5||9||22||

raam ramat tis sabh kichh soojhai. ||5||9||22||

Does anybdy understands what bhagat kabeer ji is saying here???

[naam_jap]

This is often refered to as Kabir ji's upside-down language or ulatbamsi poems(check it out on google). There are some scholars who are able to describe this, but then there are sometimes also various conflicting opinions.

We are not at the level of Kabir ji, so to read this also in a way, maybe has to make you feel like you are fool. I have reaseached on this and will quote you some of his other poems. But a deeper meaning can come only if you are ready to recieve it's meaning by Gurus grace

Kabir ji's style is also similar to the cryptic and secretive style of the tantras. This style is also similar to zen yoga*, like they have quotations like a clap with one hands.. in zen they try to make u sit and understand this until enlitegenment comes..

so what is maybe kabir ji trying to tell you "Could be" meditate on it.. contemplate God's name.. and boom! something mysterious will happen, make u understand it.

Ok now onto some intellectuals.. and some poems which they were successful at making sense.

Brother, see what comforts man-

it's an untellable story.

Lion and tiger are yoked to a plow

sowing rice in a barren field.

The wild bear is pulling weeds,

the billy goat runs the farm.

The nanny goat married a lion

while a cow sang wedding songs.

The dowry was an antelope,

the bridesmaid was a lizard.

The crow washed all the laundry

while the heron gnashed its teeth.

The fly shaved it head, shouting

I must join the marriage party.

Kabir says, can you figure out this poetry?

If so, I'll call you scholar, genius, devotee.

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according to some people..

the lion is the soul, the tiger is the mind

ill write the rest later.... and maybe give u also a chance to deduce it

[Balwinder Singh]

Cool naam jap ji. I got ur point but I will wait for ur next post.

Thanks for sharing.

[naam_jap]

Here are some more Kabir quotes

Flickering, Swinging, struggling no one is left out

Mind ocean, mind born waves, dont let the tide sweep you away

The river rushes where can the foot be pianted

As long as the stars glitter, the sun wont rise

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Brother, see what comforts man-

it's an untellable story.

Lion and tiger are yoked to a plow

sowing rice in a barren field.

The wild bear is pulling weeds,

the billy goat runs the farm.

The nanny goat married a lion

while a cow sang wedding songs.

The dowry was an antelope,

the bridesmaid was a lizard.

The crow washed all the laundry

while the heron gnashed its teeth.

The fly shaved it head, shouting

I must join the marriage party.

Kabir says, can you figure out this poetry?

If so, I'll call you scholar, genius, devotee.

==

according to some people..

the lion is the soul, the tiger is the mind. The male goat is the false guru, nanny goat is maya. the male goat takes work out of the animals lion and tiger to plow the fields of karma. They sow many seeds of desires and wishes. They are the teachings of the false Guru, maya. The bear is another false teacher. The crows are interpreted as false teachers , as they are often big black beards, trouble-causing. These dirty, corrupt creatures try to wash other people's laundry. The fly is a deluded being who desires salvation, the false guru says, come ill shave your head and you join the party and get initiated. The lizards are portrayed as senses. The restless soul goes with the many companions sensual , the lizards.

There are so many interpretations , we can go on forever, Or there might not be any.

drop falling in the ocean, everyone knows

ocean absorbed in the drop, a rare one knows

Kabir in his upside down language is repeatedly trying to tell us that the mind is the problem and it cannot solve the problem, how can we check the counterfiet coin by testing it with another counterfiet coin. This is the problem with the mind.

The first line of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, after the mool mantra is

"Sochai Soch na Hovai, Je Sochai Lakh Vaar"

Thinking cannot accomplish, even if thinking 100,000 times

I feel every line of Jap Ji has to be understood and contemplated before one can proceed further.... a line a day, repeat the line, observe it.

Yesterday, I just came on the realization, that this line maybe also means..."We should have no desires"...we think because we want to accomplish, achieve desires, etc

now the next three lines , we find Guru ji is telling us even by remaining silent, or compiling loads of worldy goods, or clever tricks, nothing is of any avail.. After this when we have total faith in the lines of the Guru... our minds are ready for the hukam .. when Guru ji says

Hukam Rajai Chalna, Nanak Likhia naal

Then only the hukam prevails ... the mind is gone as thinking is of no avail..

Ok back to the topic....

Kabir is trying to tell us something by constantly introducing impossible images in our minds; for example of an upside down tree, the calf gave brith to the cow.. that we let go of the mind to try to solve the problem of life.

[gupt_paapi]

WOW i get it!! <_< thansk 4 that post ji

"drop falling in the ocean, everyone knows

ocean absorbed in the drop, a rare one knows"

isnt this linked ot "man jeete jag jeet" - saying that winning mind is lyk wining the whole world. To no everything, ull haf 2 go everywhere around the universe n fidn it out!. but all is in the mind, the divine light is there, you are just failing to notice it.. ALL the knowledge is there, u not opening the door to it (dasam duar).

Brain (drop) is small compareed to the creation (ocean) YEt the mind holds everything in it. (ie: ocean absorbed in the drop).

Hope I made sense. IF i get this right, waheguru plz dont give me hankar.

N if i get this rong PLZ show me the right path. I am stupid, a sinner.

WAHEGURUUU <_<

PS: BtW just realised the shabad under my name on this post.. I LUV IT!!!!! :doh: Koee Aan Milaavai Mayraa Preetam Pyaaraa

[Balwinder Singh]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa,

Waheguru ji ki fateh.

Thanx naam_jap veer ji and Kanwaldeep Singh veer ji for the response. Now I kinda understand what kabeer ji meant there.

Thanks a lot.