Jago Wala Jatha

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this is wat isyf singhs who BOUGHT jago wala jtha there houses have told us in tornto

Oh ohna day agent lagday ah?

And ISYF? The apparell company? All they can do is get embroided vests made.

If you can't better them or have any hardproof (eg. real estate papers) don't criticize them.

[Gupt daasan daas]

cantlogin je

u bette check ure damn facts before U wrte crap

isyf has given money out of its own pockets, hundreds of thousands of dollars to shaheed singhs families, jasbir singh je himself gives money from his own pocket, to help get there daughters married

i peronsally know many shaheeds that went overseas of isyf

so before saying stuff like tha, u shud be careful

it was isyf that got jago wala jatha set up in uk

y do u think jago wala jatha has the luxury of living in country like uk

u think uk gov gices 2 cents bout them

isyf is one who got them set up

to go agasint a person tha helps u out like tha is a sell out

people like them shud have shame

butlike is aid

ill check out EXACTLY

wat happened

and then ill post again

bhula chuka maf

[sher-e-panjab]

cantlogin je

u bette check ure damn facts before U wrte crap

isyf has given money out of its own pockets, hundreds of thousands of dollars to shaheed singhs families, jasbir singh je himself gives money from his own pocket, to help get there daughters married

i peronsally know many shaheeds that went overseas of isyf

so before saying stuff like tha, u shud be careful

it was isyf that got jago wala jatha set up in uk

y do u think jago wala jatha has the luxury of living in country like uk

u think uk gov gices 2 cents bout them

isyf is one who got them set up

to go agasint a person tha helps u out like tha is a sell out

people like them shud have shame

butlike is aid

ill check out EXACTLY

wat happened

and then ill post again

bhula chuka maf

Gupt daasan daas you are the one who should have shame, before you go attackin panthic kavishri jathas, accusing them of singing anti-Sikh and pro-govt, I'd suggest you look towards your own life and ask yourself what you have achieved and helped glorify the lifes of those who were shaheeds in the fight for Khalistan.

This is the same Jagowala Jatha everyone bigs up when the Shaheedi Immortality CD'S are released and are pretty much the backbone of the albums, without them the albums would be poor, the same jatha who are invited to sing at Sikh Federation conventions and gurdwaras all over the world.

Infact remember this thread ( http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=11305 ) when you, yourself were bigging this jatha up?

As for Jasbir Singh Rode donating money, there are many cases in which he NEGLECTED shaheed parivars, how do you know money came out from his own pocket, sangat has over the year donated thousands of dollars/pounds can he account for all that?

[Gupt daasan daas]

i dunt care how good there voice is

they do have nice kaveesharees

i neevr said tha

there kaveeshrees are ill

dhadhreeans dharna ill nce too

but ill still say hes gov

they cud be the best singers around

is the voice more importan tthan actions now?

y shud i have shame ont his matter

ya im a bad guy

but im not aattacking the jatha

im just telling the truth

isnt that wat guru je said to do( ill dobule check just in case" :lol: )

i didnt BIG anyone up

and thas before i found out anyways

but even in tha

i dunt care bout jago wala jatha

im not sayuin there good PEEOPLE and have tru intrests of panth at heart

im jus sayin yoo loo at BABA JES JEEVAN

it was all about baba je

jago wala jathas just osme singers

just like m opinion on dhadrean

if soeone puts his tape on and im there

im not go all buck

but if they ask me my opinion do u like this giy

ill e like i got nothin to say, but hes gov too

jago wala jatha has helped the panthout????

yo they have nice kaveesharees

but thas not heloing the panth out

it just SOUNDS NICE

and WHO R U to talk crap bout jasbir singh

have u aasked him botu neglected parivaars

bhai jasbir singh je has helped has many people as he can

and how do ikno out of his own pockets?

cause hes like one of our closest family freinds, the singh sahibs like my babas brother or somethin

sangat has donatedmoney to him

and he HAS used it for panthic reaons

like have u asked jasbir singh je on this

or

who has told u these lies agsint jasbir singh

do THEY kno jasbir singh

hes a good singh

stopp dissin him for no reasohes actually DONE something for the panth which is more than i can say for us here

bhulaa chuka maf

[sher-e-panjab]

Gupt daasan daas how about you correct all your typos and mistakes and use proper english, then maybe i will understand your nonsense and be able to reply.

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cantlogin je

u bette check ure damn facts before U wrte crap

isyf has given money out of its own pockets, hundreds of thousands of dollars to shaheed singhs families, jasbir singh je himself gives money from his own pocket, to help get there daughters married

i peronsally know many shaheeds that went overseas of isyf

so before saying stuff like tha, u shud be careful

Khaaday Wi Bohut Ah!

it was isyf that got jago wala jatha set up in uk

y do u think jago wala jatha has the luxury of living in country like uk

u think uk gov gices 2 cents bout them

isyf is one who got them set up

Kavishri is parttime thing for Jagowale, they lead normal lives, going to jobs etc. They don't get a cheque from ISYF every month, because their 15 year old cassettes went platinum.

to go agasint a person tha helps u out like tha is a sell out

people like them shud have shame

I'm not Jagowale, neither can I speculate on what they think of ISYF.

butlike is aid

ill check out EXACTLY

wat happened

and then ill post again

bhula chuka maf

Oh god your post seems so baseless and factless after this last quote, I rest my case. My friend I'll look forward to your reply.

[Gupt daasan daas]

yo giv eme proof to where

khadday e bahut ah

do u eeven kno jasbir singh personally?

then how the hell wud u kno wa goes down wit tehe money?

where u thin shaheds in punjaab got money from?

kaveesharee might be part time thing but its still isyf tha got them set up

with isyf, who knows where theyd be

the onyl reason i keep ons ayin tha in my posts

is to make sure

in my posts

when i write something

either im 100 percent sure

or ill wirte im gonna double check

:lol:

i write tha to let gurmukhs like u kno tha i just wnna check on my facts

and singh je u write lots of allegations agasint isyf

wat proof at all do u base this on?

:umm:

bhula chuka maf

[cantlogin]

yo giv eme proof to where

khadday e bahut ah

Sure, the documents are in my briefcase, soon as I see the documents that prove ISYF purchased Jagowales homes for them, I'll make sure to scan them for you.

do u eeven kno jasbir singh personally?

then how the hell wud u kno wa goes down wit tehe money?

No, how would YOU know where its been used? Rode Chacha lagda or are you his accountant?

where u thin shaheds in punjaab got money from?

Last time I checked riot victims are living in shanti towns in New Delhi, and the Shaheeds families are barely getting by.

kaveesharee might be part time thing but its still isyf tha got them set up

with isyf, who knows where theyd be

Exactly where they are now.

the onyl reason i keep ons ayin tha in my posts

is to make sure

in my posts

when i write something

either im 100 percent sure

or ill wirte im gonna double check

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i write tha to let gurmukhs like u kno tha i just wnna check on my facts

If there was a fairly good online grammar/spell checker I'd run all of the above through it before I could comprehend/reply to any of it.

and singh je u write lots of allegations agasint isyf
wat proof at all do u base this on?

Please refer to response to Quote # 1

[Nama Singh]

I know the jatha personally and have done year and let me tell YOU -- referring to the idiots who say ISYF "made them" -- what the facts are:

They have full time jobs. They pay mortgages on their standard houses which arent very big. They have cars that date back to the 90's. Their wives are also working or looking for a job. The kids go to public schooling and they wear very simple clothing.

They arent poor but they are doing well for themselves like most families and are happy. Yes, everyone knows Jago Wale "upset" people and organisations but when they do - its usually the truth.

And ISYF made them?! lol! Obviously i over-estimated ISYF if thats what you call "made".

Jago Wale are still doing their programmes like they did back in 1984.

[Dukh Sukh]

this is a JOKE!!

so much arguing happening!!!!

and then u say u want khalistan!!?!?! :umm: @ :umm: @ @

were so devided as it is, why argue a stupid thing like that?

..

ah waheguru :lol: