Muslim boys converting Sikh girls!!!!!!!&#

[Guest learner singh]

Subject: Muslim boys converting Sikh girls

Category: General Feedback

Author: Jeza Singh

Email Address: jas2000@ukonline.co.uk

Date: Thursday, 2/08/2001 1:07 AM MST

(Modified: Thursday, 2/08/2001 7:40 AM MST)

This is something I read on the Punjabi talk website. I thought I would

bring to the attention of Sikhnet discussion group. As confronting what is

going on in the UK is the only way we are going to solve this problem!

Written by Jagjit Singh :

Waheguru ji ke khalsa, waheguru ji ke fateh

Pyare cyber-sangat ji,

I had decided a while ago that I should write this e-mail, but other things

always came first. Today i read something very shocking on an e-group, about

bibian going out with muslim boys, not just panjabi girls, but a dastaar

wale bibi. What was most shocking was that people on the group just seemed

to accept this. But can I ask why do we accept this? In the last few years,

I have become quite involved with some of these situations, not

intentionally, but by accident. As some of you may know I now live in Leeds,

which is right next to Bradford (Mini-Pakistan). Over the last year, when I

went to some of the local Gurdwaras ( there are many), I would occasionally

get distraught parents come up to me telling me to talk to their children.

The reason they asked me, because I can speak english, british-born sikh,

who attempts to practice. It started off with one girl who said she madly

wants to marry a muslim boy, her parents will not agree, so they brought her

to talk to me. Naturally I was a bit shocked, but I sp

oke to her at the gurdwara. She told me how much they l

oved each other, she

was going to convert and they were going to marry. I asked her if he really

did love her. She said yes. I said, "You are going to convert for him, out

of love. I do not ask him to take Amrit, but will he, out of love for you,

just come to the gurdwara, and just bow in front of Sahib Siri Guru Granth

sahib ji. Surely if you can convert for him, he can do this much for you?"

To cut the story short, he would not. She stuck by him, two weeks later ran

off with him. They were not seen for six weeks, until she came home, after

he had dumped her for another girl. Two other cases came to me, different in

structure, but similar storyline. Eventually, I thought enough is enough. I

went on the gurdwara stage and spoke about muslims,

panjabi girls, fundamental muslim groups, etc. Guru Maharaj de kirpa, the

sangat responded, an ever-expanding youth group has been set-up, we did the

shabad-Guru samagam,which included a youth camp,in which this subject was

particularly discussed. Now the youth are getting ready to create mass

education on Sikhi in this area, as this was seen as a starting point. I

KNOW THIS IS A LONG E-MAIL, BUT IMPORTANT. PLEASE READ ON.

Since the smamgam, because of the camp I have had another 4 cases. I know

maharaj will help all those who need it. But I have noticed a pattern which

i what I want to share. Every situation is different, different ages,

environment, etc. But one fundamental pattern. There are two types of muslim

boys; FUNDAMENTAL MUSLIM - these usually belong to particular groups. They

do not care for the individuals, they look at who she is. They target

sikh,hindu,christain and jewish girls. Romancing, flattery, games, etc, to

get these in girls in their circle, leading towards conversion. Shocking as

it may seem these boys truely believe if they convert a non-muslim into

Islam, then they will be Mukt. NON-RELIGIOUS MUSLIMS - they care little

about religion, for them

it is a social thing. If they go out with pakistani

girls and get them pregnent, their community forces them to get married.

They do not want to get married, but just go with girls. So they

INTENTIONALLY pick sikh/hindu/white girls, because they can do what they

want, there is no comeback. If the girls get pregnent, their community does

not care, these are just cheap girls for their boys to use as they grow up.

They are not pakistani muslim girls, who are pure. hence the pakistani

community a major superiority complex over the others. PUNJABI GIRLS -

Notice i call them punjabi, because they have little knowledge on Sikhi, and

no practice. The pattern I have found in the girls is what i call the

"Bollywood Concept". These girls wholeheartedly believe love will conquer

all. As in films, there is a social divide, their parents are against it,

their community is against, but no matter love will always win. However

these poor girls get a reality check, when the boy`s sisters,mother and

other family do not want this "cheap" girl" in their family. Or the boy has

had his fun and wants to move on to the next girl, or get maried to a

respectable girl. Love suddenly disappears, and she is left humilliated in

front of her friends, family and community FOR LIFE, because people d

o not forget. I am not racist. I know punjabi boys are just as bad. But we

as a community have got to look at how muslims percieve us. They do target

punjabi girls, because they are considered easy. Many years ago, A hindu

journalist wrote in a national newspaper, "The Daily Telegraph" that

sikh girls are the most uninhibited, ie.(cheap), in the asian community.

Fundamental muslim do target sikh girls, they are desparate for a dastaar

wale girl just to humiliate sikhs. How are we as a community reacting. Why

do we accept this?

[Guest SikhForLife]

someting like that has been posted before..

please search the forum for full discussion.

http://forums.waheguroo.com/index.ppa?act=...=muslim+convert

http://forums.waheguroo.com/index.ppa?act=...=muslim+convert

http://sikhnet.com/sikhnet/discussion.nsf/...E7?OpenDocument

u may have to click "CONTINUE" on the bottom of that page to look at the article

[Guest balwinderkaur]

yepps. this has been going on for ages.....duno whether anything is being done to stop it.

[Jkaur]

well there they have got problem with the muslim boys .. here we have got problems with indian boys going after punjabi gals..

[GABROO KHALISTAN DAH]

cause punjabans the best

hehe

did'nt knwo what else 2 say

[Jkaur]

veerji ur right punjabanas are da best but all this is really

[Guest SikhForLife]

ask urself if those girls that muslim guys are converting are really passionate about sikhism!!

i dont think u can blame everything on the muslim guys

[Guest balwinderkaur]

i;m inclined to agree with what veerjee has mentioned. it's right..we cant place the entire blame on muslim guys(although this doesnt mean they are acquitted)...there's also the girls to blame(some girls just throw themselves at any bollywood star lookalike , their parents to blame for not putting them on the right path, their karma to blame(*lol*) ......so many factors. heheh jagjit bhainjee...indian guys going after punjabans????? heheh same problem here.

[Jkaur]

hanji to a certain extend virji is kinda right but dis doesnt mean we should just sit and see our sisters bein taken away by others we should do more parchaar and let them know more about sikhism..

oh well we had this talk among those who were more inclined to guys who arent punjabis and 9/10 said they were treated badly by punjabi guys and thats the reason they kinda hate punjabi mundey... and they claim that this indian mundey treat them like princesses ...

i know its to see our sisters going thru this.. we all play a vital part in helping them out.

[moorakh mugadh]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

just prachar and only prachar can work B) well said jakaur bhenjee call as many as gurusikh and bhenjee forms like this mail them inspirations all will be ok by gurujees hukam.