If Spouse Commits Bujjar Kurehat

[Guest jk]

I have heard that if one partner in a marriage becomes patit (commits a Bujar Kurehat), that the other partner is not to have any physical relationship with him/her until the other partner presents themselves in front of Panj Piaray (Pesh). Can someone explain this please?

[Guest Guest]

That is correct, an Amritdhari is not to have either physical relations nor share the food of a non-Amritdhari/Bujjar Kurehatee. Therefore if your husband/wife has "broken" their Amrit then you would break yours also by entering into a physical relationship or sharing their Jhoota.

Once the partner has been Peshed infront of the Panj they are then rejoined into the Khalsa fold and are no longer Patit, thus the marital relationship continues as normal.

[Guest Papi]

i've heard of this before and honestly i find it very interesting that we have to do that

[Heera Singh]

if there's any doubt.. our beloved Panj Piyaray would answer any questions u have..!

[JaMdooT]

an Amritdhari is not to share the food of a non-Amritdhari/Bujjar Kurehatee.

Can you guys elaborate this statement.... I've personally experienced it but never got around that why amritdhari's can't even have food if someone else has touched it (let alone sharing) :umm: ...

[JaMdooT]

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And I am sorry for going a little off topic.... :umm:

[Mahakaal Singh]

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And I am sorry for going a little off topic.... :umm:

its a mini sikh caste system, where the castes are amritdhari and non amritdhari. Where they cannot look at each other talk to each other Amritdharis are always held above non amritdharis and they cant eat with each other and or share a meal together. there goes our gurus teachings on caste out the window!

[ham avgun bharay]

^^^

And I am sorry for going a little off topic.... :umm:

its a mini sikh caste system, where the castes are amritdhari and non amritdhari. Where they cannot look at each other talk to each other Amritdharis are always held above non amritdharis and they cant eat with each other and or share a meal together. there goes our gurus teachings on caste out the window!

That's a very interesting explanation. I didn't know it worked like that. And I honestly don't think that Amritdhari's are held above non. We are all children of God. However, the only difference I see is that they have fully devoted their lives to God where as other have not.

I thought you weren't allowed to take Jhoot because upon taking Amrit you become pure. So if one looks at it in those terms then it would make sense about not taking jhoot because you would be going away from that pureness. I'm not sure if what I said is correct but that's what I have heard at times. Please let me know if I'm wrong. Bhul Chuk Maaf!!

Fateh

[Guest Papi]

I thought you weren't allowed to take Jhoot because upon taking Amrit you become pure. So if one looks at it in those terms then it would make sense about not taking jhoot because you would be going away from that pureness. I'm not sure if what I said is correct but that's what I have heard at times. Please let me know if I'm wrong. Bhul Chuk Maaf!!

Fateh

only if it were that simple, if that were the case then we woudnl't have countless amritdharis (including myself) commiting the most shameful of sins. guru kirpa karey

min mYlY sBu ikCu mYlw qin DoqY mnu hCw n hoie ]

man mailai sabh kishh mailaa than dhhothai man hashhaa n hoe ||

When the mind is filthy, everything is filthy; by washing the body, the mind is not cleaned.

ieh jgqu Brim BulwieAw ivrlw bUJY koie ]1]

eih jagath bharam bhulaaeiaa viralaa boojhai koe ||1||

This world is deluded by doubt; how rare are those who understand this. ||1||

as in the first tuk, if our mind is filthy then eveything we do is filthy. maaf karna but then even going to gurudwara is filthy, even doing sewa is filthy........EVERYTHING we do is filthy. so then even eating "pure" food is filthy.

guru kirpa karey, may we cleanse our mind with humble seva, and gurbani

[smartsingh24]

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And I am sorry for going a little off topic.... :umm:

its a mini sikh caste system, where the castes are amritdhari and non amritdhari. Where they cannot look at each other talk to each other Amritdharis are always held above non amritdharis and they cant eat with each other and or share a meal together. there goes our gurus teachings on caste out the window!

mahakaal you are once again ridiculing time honored sikh principles that have been handed down to us from higher authorities. Rather than stay on topic, you choose to subvert the topic at hand and push your own agenda. There is no caste system in sikhi and your belief that amrithdharis and non amrithdharis are a new form of castes is simply wrong.