United We Stand!

[SarabhaPanjab]

United We Stand!

Sarabha Panjab News

www.SarabhaPanjab.blogspot.com

03 July 2007

In a meeting between Panjabi-Sikh youth representatives from various Jathabandhis, Panjabi vigilantes and Religious respect movements, a message of solidarity was portrayed.

Over the last few weeks the Midlands Panjabi-Sikh community have seen evidence of grooming & brainwashing, protests against extremism and the disrespect of the ‘Gurdwara code of conduct’.

Youth groups recognised the need to unite against elements that affect the Chardikala of the Panjabi-Sikh community and the Khalsa Panth.

Police and Media Ignorance

Following the Anti-extremism rally on 9th June where 200 Panjabi-Sikh youth protested against extremism in the UK (please refer to http://sarabhapanjab.blogspot.com/2007/06/...ism-rally.html), and the follow-up meeting with Police chiefs (http://sarabhapanjab.blogspot.com/2007/06/press-release.html), a statement from the Police stated, “there is no evidence of forced conversions”.

This statement is ridiculous because the term ‘forced conversion’ (gun to the head type of conversion) was never raised by any Sikh body (only mentioned by Hindu forum of Britain), nor was it mentioned during Rally. The placards during the rally stated “Sikhs will not tolerate extremist behaviour” and “Sikhs against FALSE conversions”. Cleary the police are clueless when it comes to the issues of:

Radicalisation

Grooming & Brainwashing

Racially motivated sexual exploitation

Extremist preaching in schools, colleges and Universities

Then they wonder why we have a growing problem with homegrown extremism in the UK.

The same goes for the culturally insensitive BBC-Asian network. Again, failing to recognise, or perhaps conveniently choosing not to recognise the concerns of the Sikh youth.

Ironically the idiots from BBC-Asian network were present at the Rally and had interviewed the protestors and had obtained a copy of the handout. Yet they reported it as a rally against ‘Gun-to-the-Head’ type forced conversions.

Return to Vigilantism?

Believing that the Police are choosing not to take action against extremist preaching and extremist gangs, Panjabi-Sikh youth are calling for a return to vigilantism of the past.

Kaka Gill from the Panjabi Youth movement, “If the police won’t monitor extremist preachers in schools, colleges and universities, then we will”

“If they think its ok for guys in the 30’s to stand outside schools and colleges trying to entice girls with drugs and fancy cars then its up to us to protect our community.”

“There are no laws against grooming, brainwashing, racially motivated sexual exploitation and deception (i.e. wearing a Kara for dishonest means). Does that mean the Panjabi-Sikh community should resign to suffering in silence?”

Non-Sikh Marriages in Gurdwara Sahibs

For the protection of Sikh ethics, the Respectful conduct of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and the preservation of the Khalsa Panth in the UK, the issue of Non-Sikh marriages in Gurdwara Sahibs was addressed.

The youth bodies and vigilante groups unanimously agreed that Non-Sikhs by birth should only be allowed to marry in a Gurdwara Sahib if they have accepted Sikhi through the conventional means (Amrit sanchar ceremony).

In a case where the Gurdwara committee feel the marriage has legitimate reasons to go ahead; then a press release should be released prior to the wedding explaining their reasons why, after which a meeting will be held.

Those Gurdwara committees who oppose this will face heavy protests and objections from Sikh youth groups, and the members responsible will be highlighted to the wider Sikh community.

P.Singh Youth representative; “In a court of Law a Bible is presented to a Christian, a Quran to a Muslim on which an oath is sworn, and not vice versa.

A marriage is also an oath, and in the presence of ‘Jaag di Jhot’ Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji only those who have accepted Guru Granth Sahib Ji as their Guru should be taking marriages vows - otherwise it’s a mockery of the system, and disrespect to Guru Sahib”

Referring to The Sikh Reht Maryada in accordance to Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee “Persons professing faiths other than the Sikh faith cannot be joined in wedlock by the Anand Karaj ceremony.”

http://www.sgpc.net/sikhism/anand-sanskar.asp

“We do not oppose interfaith marriages, but we will not tolerate the abuse of the Sikh Gurdwara code of conduct”

Kaka Gill from Punjabi Youth Movement, “we will strongly oppose illegitimate Anand Karaj ceremonies and will commence peaceful protests. We condemn any act of violence and intimidation, but we must bare in mind…. today we see cars being burnt, our history shows Massands burnt!”

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[birmingham singh]

I think there does need to be a hukumnama in regards to persons converting to Sikhism and having inter marriages I do not accept what the SGPC has to state in terms of rehit maradia. The akhal thakat should forward a hukhamnama.

A lot of people get married in a Gurdwara who do not even believe in God and only do so to please family. Maybe from now on only amrit tari people should be married before Siri Guru Granth Shaib. I think the akhal thakat should be requested for a ruling.

Now the dust has settled it seems that after the whole graham st incident we have a person who attends a Gurdwara now is married to a Sikh girl. Is he a Sikh or just a nobody? What happens if he professes that he never wants to become an amrit tari?

Again no jhuta bandi has any right to force others let the true Sikh authority rule.

Against Muslim extremism I don’t anyone will deny there is a issue and we need to stand together. Lets hope we have learnt how to stop alienating and welcome and work with our whole community.

[Gurbar Akaal]

What are peoples views on "sikh / punjabi" girls / guys marrying a muslim but not in a Gurdwara?. Are these groups against total mixed marraiges or only those that occur in our Gurdwaras?

[SarabhaPanjab]

What are peoples views on "sikh / punjabi" girls / guys marrying a muslim but not in a Gurdwara?. Are these groups against total mixed marraiges or only those that occur in our Gurdwaras?

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P.Singh Youth representative; “In a court of Law a Bible is presented to a Christian, a Quran to a Muslim on which an oath is sworn, and not vice versa.

A marriage is also an oath, and in the presence of ‘Jaag di Jhot’ Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji only those who have accepted Guru Granth Sahib Ji as their Guru should be taking marriages vows - otherwise it’s a mockery of the system, and disrespect to Guru Sahib”

Referring to The Sikh Reht Maryada in accordance to Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee “Persons professing faiths other than the Sikh faith cannot be joined in wedlock by the Anand Karaj ceremony.”

http://www.sgpc.net/sikhism/anand-sanskar.asp

“We do not oppose interfaith marriages, but we will not tolerate the abuse of the Sikh Gurdwara code of conduct” [/color]]]

The issue is not of mixed-marriages, Sikhi tolerates and respects all non-extremist faiths and religious practises. This issue is about upholding the 'Gurdwara code of conduct' and the respectful conduct of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

[birmingham singh]

I agree 100 percent I am saying let akhal thakat give decision of who can sit before Siri Guru Granth Shabib to get married not any jhuta bundi you qouted SPGC I am saying they are not the people who should make decisions let the real body for this task guide us and we will bow and take on board!