Chauthha Padh

[japmans]

Vaheguru

need some more information about Chauthha Padh.

read it in this line:

guramukh hovai chouthhaa padh cheenai raam naam sukh hoee ||3||

But one who becomes Gurmukh comes to realize the fourth state of celestial bliss; he finds peace through the Name of the Lord. ||3||

Sounds funny, but it's kinda important. Anyone with any insight would really help.

thanks

[Guest Akirtghan]

i've never even heard the word chautha padh . hopefully someone can shed some light :wub:

[japmans]

bhai gurdaas ji writes that a gurmukh will go beyond rajo tamo sato, and achieve this fourth state... chauthha padh..

but i`m lookin for qualities of this state.. or.. any description.

[00gurpreet_singh00]

chaoutha padh, turiya avastha, brahmgian....from my understanding is the same thing, when you go beyond mayas 3 guns and connect to akaal purkhs jot.

[lowest of the low singhni]

i've never even heard the word chautha padh.

It's refers to the same as state of mind as Turi Avastha. When a Gurmukh rises above Rajo, Tamo and Sato.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=21256

There are three types of Maya; Rajo, Tamo and Sato.

Tamo:

Bad deeds - like murder, slander, thieving, rape etc. Obviously anti-gurmat.

Rajo:

Ambition - the thing which drives us to work harder for promotions, or to earn more and more money. Someone under the influence of this Gunn can easily lapse back into Tamo Gunn because usually ambition will end up in desperation, which may lead to sins being committed in order to achieve higher status.

Sato:

Good Stuff - like giving to charity, being compassionate. Under this Gunn there is not much aspiration for worldly or materialistic things. Most of the religions of the world will fall under this Gunn, teaching people how to live decent, moral lives. Gurmat is probably one of the only ones which talks about a higher level.

Gursikhi involves parts of these three attributes of Maya. Sato - obviously we need to be good people and help those in need, treating everyone with respect and kindness. But to an extent we need Rajo as well - in order to inspire us to earn an honest living, and to get us up in the morning for Amritvela...instilling the desire to attain a higher spiritual level.

The stage above these three is called Turi Avastha. This is when a person is living according to Gursikhi, and does good actions, but always selflessly. It is actually quite hard for people to imagine doing a "selfless" good deed. Deep down we always feel good in the end about doing it, and this can lead to ego. I cannot explain this stage very well because i've had no experience of it, so maybe someone can help me out here :wub: .

Hope this helped a wee bit, it's not a very good explanation.

[Guest Hardeep_S_Khalsa]

[sgurbir]

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa

Vaheguru ji kee fateh

Sadh sangat ji Choutha pad has also been desctibed in sukhmani sahib

KAR KIRPA JIS APNE NAAM LAYE

NANAK SO JAN CHOUTHE PAD MAIN GAT PAYE

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa

Vaheguru ji kee fateh

Vaheguru

need some more information about Chauthha Padh.

read it in this line:

guramukh hovai chouthhaa padh cheenai raam naam sukh hoee ||3||

But one who becomes Gurmukh comes to realize the fourth state of celestial bliss; he finds peace through the Name of the Lord. ||3||

Sounds funny, but it's kinda important. Anyone with any insight would really help.

thanks