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I'm younger than most of you (15) and had some questions for all of you paaji's,

Could someone tell me how this violence stopped after Indhra Ghandi's assassination?

I would also like to know how we got the army out of Darbar Sahib?

Was ALL the Akhal Thakt destroyed by them...?

Was the attack because of us asking for Khalistan?

How did everything get resolved in the end?

I have been watching some videos and things but they don't anwser all the questions...I am also making out that Santh Jarnail Singh was one of our leaders in fighting the Hindus and I think he was a martyr aswell....

I also know that Indrha Ghandi was assassinated by two of her Sikh Officers and some other info but it would be nice if someone can

I would like to know what really happened and I think this great Sangat can teach me.

I know this is a difficult subject but I really want to understand fully what happend...Sorry if this offends you but I still need to learn a lot about our history...and what really happend in '84.

I appreciate your help Paaji's and would really like if someone could write be a very long passage anwsering my questions...

Thanks,

Harmeet

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buy the book

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/0...aith+and+nation

or visit

(dharam yudh morcha-pre 84) http://www.neverforget84.com/history.php?i...ram-yudh-morcha

(legacy of sant jarnail singh ji) http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Sant_ja...gh_bhindranwale

(eyewitness accounts of op bluestar) http://www.panthic.org/news/135/ARTICLE/3332/2007-06-06.html

(operation woodrose) http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Woodrose

(delhi massacres) www.carnage84.org

lots of reading rolleyes.gif

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They say Book by Mark Tuli (I think) a foregn journalist, is also a great independent reference available,.

Do anyone has the book,it was banned in India?

There is other document "Constitution of Khalistan" Written By Harkrishan singh Surjeet MP of Cpi, just curious to read it? Have no idea what it contains.

For our side go to SikhShadat.com, see old June issues in archieve. June 2001 but not in archieve was the most detailed one

Changed this highly Indian Patriotic to What i am now.

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They say Book by Mark Tuli (I think) a foregn journalist, is also a great independent reference available,.

Do anyone has the book,it was banned in India?

There is other document "Constitution of Khalistan" Written By Harkrishan singh Surjeet MP of Cpi, just curious to read it? Have no idea what it contains.

For our side go to SikhShadat.com, see old June issues in archieve. June 2001 but not in archieve was the most detailed one

Changed this highly Indian Patriotic to What i am now.

Just some info regarding the refs.

Mark Tully- some of his work is good but much of it is in line with classic indian propaganda and seeing as he lives in india it isn't surprising.

Tully's work isn't banned there, in fact he is given prime consideration whenever any foreign documentary crews want to research about the 1984 happenings.

Harkishan Singh (cpim) is a staunch communist and his views reflect a typical leftist perspective.

I have a booklet written by him (happenings in punjab), published in the 1980s.

The booklet portrays the singhs as extremists, communalists and the akali dal as moderates.

On a side note I remember reading in the metro paper a few years back that some oxford professor had in his possession declassified soviet documents. They were regarding kgb infiltration into india's government and key media institutions during the 1970s/80s. The kgb had mentioned that india was one of the easiest third world countries to infiltrate and therefore influence domestic/foreign policy.

Might be interesting to look into.

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