Met Some P'stani Claiming To Be A Shia

[Guest Dancing Warrior]

This chunky pewter torc bracelet is decorated with the Celtic "Endless knot" design sybolising everlasting life and love.

[Guest Dancing Warrior]

Roman, Greek and Celtic

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[Guest Akirtghan]

but dont these looks distinctly different than a kara? unless our kara has sorta changed over the years

[dalsingh101]

Very unconvincing. The kara has become associated to the Sikh faith. Given the size of many of them they would be pretty useless as wrist protectors.

The artists of the pictures above don't even notice any karae.

The one below does but they seem a bit small to be wrist protectors.

[Singh132]

Regarding the above paintings;

I have seen many old Sikh paintings that show Sikhs wearing karas.

Even in the above paintings, the first painting shows the Singh with karas on both hands. The smaller size makes it hard to see, but around the wrists are two karas painted the same colour as the chakars around the Singh's neck. I have a larger size file that makes it quite clear.

Guru Kian Sakhian (1790) mentions kara as a kakaar. Off the top of my head, I know that Panth Parkash (Bhangu) also mentions Singhs having sarbloh karas.

[dalsingh101]

Singh132

I'm not saying a kara isn't a kakkar. Just that I don't think it was a weapon or wrist protector like some people suggest.

[Guest Dancing Warrior]

:D With respect I wasn’t trying to convince anyone, I was showing different types of wrist protection and armour etc….its perfectly viable as a predecessor. As for the slave bangle theory then we enter the ideology of Rishis, Munies, Siddhs and Yogis! Who wear them for this reason. :nihungsmile:

[dalsingh101]

:D With respect I wasn’t trying to convince anyone, I was showing different types of wrist protection and armour etc….its perfectly viable as a predecessor. As for the slave bangle theory then we enter the ideology of Rishis, Munies, Siddhs and Yogis! Who wear them for this reason. :nihungsmile:

Judging but your avtar you don't seem too far from that yourself?

[proactive]

The Kara as a weapon or as a wrist protector doesn't ring true. Compared to the other wrist protectors that were pictured, the Kara is a loose item whereas the others are static and tried into position. How would the Kara be used as a weapon?

[Guest Dancing Warrior]

The Kara as a weapon or as a wrist protector doesn't ring true. Compared to the other wrist protectors that were pictured, the Kara is a loose item whereas the others are static and tried into position. How would the Kara be used as a weapon?

Proactive,

Karae’ are not meant to be worn loose, in Jung Vidha this is emphasised, also modern type unbroken band karas have only been on the scene since the onset of lathe type machinery. As far as I’m aware these types karae’ there aren’t ant from the Guru jis era.