Sikh Missionary College

[ghorandhar]

Veer S1ngh jee im really confused with some of your comments, I do not mean to argue with you, only do veechar.

Firstly why does the Akal Takhat or SGPC need to give recommendation to the Sikh Missionary College? Or why does the Sikh Missionary College want it? I assume you are talking about the Ludhiana one. Shahid Missionary college according to my knowledge is the SGPCs missionary college. The fact that the Missionary college of Ludhiana follow the Panthic Sikh rehit maryada and support the Akal Takhat is all that should matter.

You dont really provide references where the Sikh Missionary college or which Missioanry college you disagree with. Ropar and Ludhiana for example have there own magazines and dont really have any link in terms of money, teaching or resources. They are independent from one another. You still have not provided any reference where any of the 4 main missionary colleges claim Baba Deep Singh jees head was cut rather than actually come of did not come of. I would like to know so that I can read their arguments. Personally I feel we have more worrying things to worry about than whether someone thinks Baba Deep Singh jees head came of or not (even though personaly I feel it did). I was doing a lecture yesterday and people did not even know who Baba Deep Singh jee was, the main thing for us today is to leave these issues behind and try to get the basics taught to Sikhs because if our next generation have never heard of Baba Deep Singh jee, we a have some serious problems ahead of us. The meaning and purpose of the persons sacrifice is potent, the manner and criticaly analysing history is something which will come later. We cannot always agree on history, the example of Banda Singh jees Shahidi presents the reality that people will always place greater weight on particular references.

Im just going to qoute Something Veer Vjee said which I totally agree with:

'3- No, as I see it, it's not that they don't believe in the life stories of the Gurus- it's just that they (rightly) demand historic reference that points towards something. There are many made up sakhis (many by the such as Chaman lal). Just read the "puaratan Janamsakhis" of the Gurus, written not more than 100 years after the Guru- you'll be disgusted. Everything needs to be taken with a pinch (karchi?) of salt. The only thing that can be trusted blindly is Gurbani. Since they know that Gurbani is the ultimate litmus test - they use GURBANI as their scale to see if something is according to Gurmat or not. It's not about rejecting Sakhis; it's about putting authentic sources like Bhai Gurdas Ji, and Gurbani - which weight a much more than sakhis'.

The objective of blindly trusting gurbani is such an important point (I never realised that we should use these words until Bhai Sahib just used them). Where there is conflicting history, the test which we will always adere to is Gurbani and sources such as Bhai Gurdas jee? Gurbani will always be above the interpretation of history by individuals. I feel that sometimes we feel insecure about our belief so we outright condemn people without discussing the facts, this insecurity has lead to newspapers and internet sites attacking the Sikh Missioanary Colleges. There will always be things that we cannot agree with when discussing and researching history, the point is to do veechar and if you cannot agree thank the Bhai Sahib or phen jee for doing gurmat veechar and then encourage researching. Vidhya veechari tha parupkari GGS ang 356. What ever I or others say is not rubber stampted. Our beliefs are a evolution of thought, Gurbani is the only thing in this world which is final, rather than being an evolution of thought, gurbani is a divine revelation. Therefore everything is seen in light of gurbani.

The Sikh Missionary Colleges are not political institutions like the various other Sikh jhatas are, they dont go around with huge groups of Sikhs challening people left right and centre, or giving statements that we dont follow flanaa flanaa or have press conferences. I dont understand how the Sikh Missionary College would go around condemning people when that is not what an Education institution does. Its like saying Punjabi University or Patalia University should have a press conferences saying, 'BTW we are against Kala Afghana, Gurtej Singh etc'. We are talking about Educational Institutions, hence the role is to teach students and prepare lessons. I dont know whether you have been to College or University, but if you understand how these institutions work, you will see that the Missionary Colleges and based on those models of institution. The point im making is that these institutions are not our guru (in other words lay down some kind of rubber stamp), all they do is teach you and help you reach a level so that you can easily interpretate and research primary and secondary rescourses.

Could you please provide references where the Sikh Missionary College magazine Sikh Phulwari supports: Kala Afghana, Gurtej Singh and Spokesman. I have been reading that magazine for along time now. Inder Singh Ghagga who has over 100 articles to his name told me that none of his articles nor Kala Afghana etc were allowed to be published and this was before they were declared Tankah at the Akal Takhat. The reason is simple, no publication is allowed which contravene the principles of gurbani and the supremacy of the Akal Takhat.

I have never come across anything in the magazines or books of the Sikh Missionary College (Ludhiana I think you are refering to) are in the same bed with all these false people which panth to karag keeta by the AKal Takhat. However, If you can provide me with some references I will approach the Missionary college to ascertain why they are doing these things so that we can try to stop them contravening the Akal Takhat.