Brahmin Defined

[Mehtab Singh]

I am not sure what this post is going to serve. Those who have been fed with hatred for Hindus even before they grew teeth won't give 2 cents even after reading this. However, those who were born normal and are sane may benefit and not fall down the drain of hate like the others. I found these definitions of how and what Gurujee perceived a true Brahmin to be, and was surprised how could someone claiming to be a "Sikh" have so much hate. There were definitions of how a Muslim should be, how a Vaishvav, a Kshatriya etc. should be as well. I got to say, as far as hating on the basis of beliefs is concerned, Gurujee has left us handicapped. A true Sikh can never ever hate anyone, be the person of any religion or any set of beliefs. Thus we are truly handicapped when it comes to hating, because a genuine Sikh cannot hate anyone at all. As hypocritical as it may sound, I myself don't fall under the category of such blessed Sikhs. Just today I have made 2 posts trying to rebutt the garbage some Muslims are spreading about Sikhi. In course of trying to break their logics, I tried my best not to sound hateful, because Bhagat Fareed Jee, Bhai Maradana, Pir Budhu Shah and scores of other mureeds of Gurujee always remind me that not all Muslims are evil like Aurangzeb, Jahangir, Abdali etc. I don't know howcome people like Bhai Bala, Pandit Shiv Dutt, Pandit Kirpa Ram are forgotten by a handful of intellectually defective individuals who cannot remember names beyond the list that has Gangu and Chandu.

Anyways, my ranting is over. <Edited> Enjoy these shabads, and remember...

eyk nUr qy sBu jgu aupijAw kaun Bly ko mMdy ]1]

eaek noor thae sabh jag oupajiaa koun bhalae ko ma(n)dhae ||1||

From the One Light, the entire universe welled up. So who is good, and who is bad? ||1||

Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Prabhaatee on Ang 1349

Enjoy...

Guru Amar Daas Ji in Siree Raag on Ang 67

so bRwhmxu bRhmu jo ibMdy hir syqI rMig rwqw ]

so braahaman breham jo bi(n)dhae har saethee ra(n)g raathaa ||

He alone is a Brahmin, who knows the Lord Brahma, and is attuned to the Love of the Lord.

Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Gauree on Ang 258

bbw bRhmu jwnq qy bRhmw ]

babaa breham jaanath thae brehamaa ||

BABBA: One who knows God is a Brahmin.

bYsno qy gurmuiK suc Drmw ]

baisano thae guramukh such dhharamaa ||

A Vaishnaav is one who, as Gurmukh, lives the righteous life of Dharma.

Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Gauree on Ang 324

khu kbIr jo bRhmu bIcwrY ]

kahu kabeer jo breham beechaarai ||

Says Kabeer, one who contemplates God,

so bRwhmxu khIAqu hY hmwrY ]4]7]

so braahaman keheeath hai hamaarai ||4||7||

is said to be a Brahmin among us. ||4||7||

Guru Amar Daas Ji in Raag Gujri on Ang 512

sloku mÚ 3 ]

salok ma 3 ||

Salok, Third Mehla:

bRhmu ibMdy so bRwhmxu khIAY ij Anidnu hir ilv lwey ]

breham bi(n)dhae so braahaman keheeai j anadhin har liv laaeae ||

One who understands God, who lovingly centers his mind on the Lord night and day, is called a Brahmin.

siqgur puCY scu sMjmu kmwvY haumY rogu iqsu jwey ]

sathigur pushhai sach sa(n)jam kamaavai houmai rog this jaaeae ||

Consulting the True Guru, he practices Truth and self-restraint, and he is rid of the disease of ego.

hir gux gwvY gux sMgRhY joqI joiq imlwey ]

har gun gaavai gun sa(n)grehai jothee joth milaaeae ||

He sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord, and gathers in His Praises; his light is blended with the Light.

iesu jug mih ko ivrlw bRhm igAwnI ij haumY myit smwey ]

eis jug mehi ko viralaa breham giaanee j houmai maett samaaeae ||

In this world, one who knows God is very rare; eradicating ego, he is absorbed in God.

nwnk iqs no imilAw sdw suKu pweIAY ij Anidnu hir nwmu iDAwey ]1]

naanak this no miliaa sadhaa sukh paaeeai j anadhin har naam dhhiaaeae ||1||

O Nanak, meeting him, peace is obtained; night and day, he meditates on the Lord's Name. ||1||

Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Dhanaasree on Ang 662

so bRwhmxu jo bRhmu bIcwrY ]

so braahaman jo breham beechaarai ||

He alone is a Brahmin, who contemplates God.

Awip qrY sgly kul qwrY ]3]

aap tharai sagalae kul thaarai ||3||

He saves himself, and saves all his generations as well. ||3||

Guru Amar Daas Ji in Raag Bilaaval on Ang 850

slok mÚ 3 ]

salok ma 3 ||

Salok, Third Mehla:

bRhmu ibMdih qy bRwhmxw jy clih siqgur Bwie ]

breham bi(n)dhehi thae braahamanaa jae chalehi sathigur bhaae ||

He alone knows God, and he alone is a Brahmin, who walks in harmony with the Will of the True Guru.

ijn kY ihrdY hir vsY haumY rogu gvwie ]

jin kai hiradhai har vasai houmai rog gavaae ||

One whose heart is filled with the Lord, is freed of egotism and disease.

gux rvih gux sMgRhih joqI joiq imlwie ]

gun ravehi gun sa(n)grehehi jothee joth milaae ||

He chants the Lord's Praises, gathers virtue, and his light merges into the Light.

iesu jug mih ivrly bRwhmx bRhmu ibMdih icqu lwie ]

eis jug mehi viralae braahaman breham bi(n)dhehi chith laae ||

How rare are those Brahmins who, in this age, come to know God, by lovingly focusing their consciousness on Him.

nwnk ijn@ kau ndir kry hir scw sy nwim rhy ilv lwie ]1]

naanak jinh ko nadhar karae har sachaa sae naam rehae liv laae ||1||

O Nanak, those who are blessed by the Lord's Glance of Grace, remain lovingly attuned to the Name of the True Lord. ||1||

Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Maaroo on Ang 992

bRhmxu bRhm igAwn iesnwnI hir gux pUjy pwqI ]

brehaman breham giaan eisanaanee har gun poojae paathee ||

He alone is a Brahmin, who takes his cleansing bath in the spiritual wisdom of God, and whose leaf-offerings in worship are the Glorious Praises of the Lord.

Guru Amar Daas Ji in Raag Maaroo on Ang 1093

so bRwhmxu Blw AwKIAY ij bUJY bRhmu bIcwru ]

so braahaman bhalaa aakheeai j boojhai breham beechaar ||

He alone is called a good Brahmin, who understands God in contemplative meditation.

hir swlwhy hir pVY gur kY sbid vIcwir ]

har saalaahae har parrai gur kai sabadh veechaar ||

He praises the Lord, and reads of the Lord, and contemplates the Word of the Guru's Shabad.

Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Salok Sehshritee on Ang 1360

bRhmxh sMig auDrxM bRhm krm ij pUrxh ]

brehamaneh sa(n)g oudhharana(n) breham karam j pooraneh ||

Associating with the Brahmin, one is saved, if his actions are perfect and God-like.

Awqm rqM sMswr ghM qy nr nwnk inhPlh ]65]

aatham ratha(n) sa(n)saar geha(n) thae nar naanak nihafaleh ||65||

Those whose souls are imbued with the world - O Nanak, their lives are fruitless. ||65||

Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Salok Vaaraan Thay Vadheek on Ang 1410

so bRhmxu jo ibMdY bRhmu ]

so brehaman jo bi(n)dhai breham ||

He alone is a Brahmin, who knows God.

jpu qpu sMjmu kmwvY krmu ]

jap thap sa(n)jam kamaavai karam ||

He chants and meditates, and practices austerity and good deeds.

sIl sMqoK kw rKY Drmu ]

seel sa(n)thokh kaa rakhai dhharam ||

He keeps to the Dharma, with faith, humility and contentment.

bMDn qoVY hovY mukqu ]

ba(n)dhhan thorrai hovai mukath ||

Breaking his bonds, he is liberated.

soeI bRhmxu pUjx jugqu ]16]

soee brehaman poojan jugath ||16||

Such a Brahmin is worthy of being worshipped. ||16||

[Laadli Fauj]

I LOVE BAHMANHS

[Mehtab Singh]

I LOVE BAHMANHS

I love the ones who fall under the above mentioned Gurmat category!

Wait a sec, as a Sikh we supposed to love EVERYONE...ok...so we should love without judging...

[THE WARRIOR]

Nice post Mehtab Singh, keep them coming. Differs so much from the anti-hindu anti bramin claptrap we’re so used to on this forum.

[singhni wannabe]

I am not sure what this post is going to serve. Those who have been fed with hatred for Hindus even before they grew teeth won't give 2 cents even after reading this. However, those who were born normal and are sane may benefit and not fall down the drain of hate like the others. I found these definitions of how and what Gurujee perceived a true Brahmin to be, and was surprised how could someone claiming to be a "Sikh" have so much hate. There were definitions of how a Muslim should be, how a Vaishvav, a Kshatriya etc. should be as well. I got to say, as far as hating on the basis of beliefs is concerned, Gurujee has left us handicapped. A true Sikh can never ever hate anyone, be the person of any religion or any set of beliefs. Thus we are truly handicapped when it comes to hating, because a genuine Sikh cannot hate anyone at all. As hypocritical as it may sound, I myself don't fall under the category of such blessed Sikhs. Just today I have made 2 posts trying to rebutt the garbage some Muslims are spreading about Sikhi. In course of trying to break their logics, I tried my best not to sound hateful, because Bhagat Fareed Jee, Bhai Maradana, Pir Budhu Shah and scores of other mureeds of Gurujee always remind me that not all Muslims are evil like Aurangzeb, Jahangir, Abdali etc. I don't know howcome people like Bhai Bala, Pandit Shiv Dutt, Pandit Kirpa Ram are forgotten by a handful of intellectually defective individuals who cannot remember names beyond the list that has Gangu and Chandu.

Anyways, my ranting is over. There will be enough rotten heads who are going to think that I posted these to defend my background. But then again, who cares. If I did, this thread wouldn't be here.

Enjoy these shabads, and remember...

eyk nUr qy sBu jgu aupijAw kaun Bly ko mMdy ]1]

eaek noor thae sabh jag oupajiaa koun bhalae ko ma(n)dhae ||1||

From the One Light, the entire universe welled up. So who is good, and who is bad? ||1||

Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Prabhaatee on Ang 1349

Enjoy...

Guru Amar Daas Ji in Siree Raag on Ang 67

so bRwhmxu bRhmu jo ibMdy hir syqI rMig rwqw ]

so braahaman breham jo bi(n)dhae har saethee ra(n)g raathaa ||

He alone is a Brahmin, who knows the Lord Brahma, and is attuned to the Love of the Lord.

Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Gauree on Ang 258

bbw bRhmu jwnq qy bRhmw ]

babaa breham jaanath thae brehamaa ||

BABBA: One who knows God is a Brahmin.

bYsno qy gurmuiK suc Drmw ]

baisano thae guramukh such dhharamaa ||

A Vaishnaav is one who, as Gurmukh, lives the righteous life of Dharma.

Bhagat Kabeer Ji in Raag Gauree on Ang 324

khu kbIr jo bRhmu bIcwrY ]

kahu kabeer jo breham beechaarai ||

Says Kabeer, one who contemplates God,

so bRwhmxu khIAqu hY hmwrY ]4]7]

so braahaman keheeath hai hamaarai ||4||7||

is said to be a Brahmin among us. ||4||7||

Guru Amar Daas Ji in Raag Gujri on Ang 512

sloku mÚ 3 ]

salok ma 3 ||

Salok, Third Mehla:

bRhmu ibMdy so bRwhmxu khIAY ij Anidnu hir ilv lwey ]

breham bi(n)dhae so braahaman keheeai j anadhin har liv laaeae ||

One who understands God, who lovingly centers his mind on the Lord night and day, is called a Brahmin.

siqgur puCY scu sMjmu kmwvY haumY rogu iqsu jwey ]

sathigur pushhai sach sa(n)jam kamaavai houmai rog this jaaeae ||

Consulting the True Guru, he practices Truth and self-restraint, and he is rid of the disease of ego.

hir gux gwvY gux sMgRhY joqI joiq imlwey ]

har gun gaavai gun sa(n)grehai jothee joth milaaeae ||

He sings the Glorious Praises of the Lord, and gathers in His Praises; his light is blended with the Light.

iesu jug mih ko ivrlw bRhm igAwnI ij haumY myit smwey ]

eis jug mehi ko viralaa breham giaanee j houmai maett samaaeae ||

In this world, one who knows God is very rare; eradicating ego, he is absorbed in God.

nwnk iqs no imilAw sdw suKu pweIAY ij Anidnu hir nwmu iDAwey ]1]

naanak this no miliaa sadhaa sukh paaeeai j anadhin har naam dhhiaaeae ||1||

O Nanak, meeting him, peace is obtained; night and day, he meditates on the Lord's Name. ||1||

Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Dhanaasree on Ang 662

so bRwhmxu jo bRhmu bIcwrY ]

so braahaman jo breham beechaarai ||

He alone is a Brahmin, who contemplates God.

Awip qrY sgly kul qwrY ]3]

aap tharai sagalae kul thaarai ||3||

He saves himself, and saves all his generations as well. ||3||

Guru Amar Daas Ji in Raag Bilaaval on Ang 850

slok mÚ 3 ]

salok ma 3 ||

Salok, Third Mehla:

bRhmu ibMdih qy bRwhmxw jy clih siqgur Bwie ]

breham bi(n)dhehi thae braahamanaa jae chalehi sathigur bhaae ||

He alone knows God, and he alone is a Brahmin, who walks in harmony with the Will of the True Guru.

ijn kY ihrdY hir vsY haumY rogu gvwie ]

jin kai hiradhai har vasai houmai rog gavaae ||

One whose heart is filled with the Lord, is freed of egotism and disease.

gux rvih gux sMgRhih joqI joiq imlwie ]

gun ravehi gun sa(n)grehehi jothee joth milaae ||

He chants the Lord's Praises, gathers virtue, and his light merges into the Light.

iesu jug mih ivrly bRwhmx bRhmu ibMdih icqu lwie ]

eis jug mehi viralae braahaman breham bi(n)dhehi chith laae ||

How rare are those Brahmins who, in this age, come to know God, by lovingly focusing their consciousness on Him.

nwnk ijn@ kau ndir kry hir scw sy nwim rhy ilv lwie ]1]

naanak jinh ko nadhar karae har sachaa sae naam rehae liv laae ||1||

O Nanak, those who are blessed by the Lord's Glance of Grace, remain lovingly attuned to the Name of the True Lord. ||1||

Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Maaroo on Ang 992

bRhmxu bRhm igAwn iesnwnI hir gux pUjy pwqI ]

brehaman breham giaan eisanaanee har gun poojae paathee ||

He alone is a Brahmin, who takes his cleansing bath in the spiritual wisdom of God, and whose leaf-offerings in worship are the Glorious Praises of the Lord.

Guru Amar Daas Ji in Raag Maaroo on Ang 1093

so bRwhmxu Blw AwKIAY ij bUJY bRhmu bIcwru ]

so braahaman bhalaa aakheeai j boojhai breham beechaar ||

He alone is called a good Brahmin, who understands God in contemplative meditation.

hir swlwhy hir pVY gur kY sbid vIcwir ]

har saalaahae har parrai gur kai sabadh veechaar ||

He praises the Lord, and reads of the Lord, and contemplates the Word of the Guru's Shabad.

Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Salok Sehshritee on Ang 1360

bRhmxh sMig auDrxM bRhm krm ij pUrxh ]

brehamaneh sa(n)g oudhharana(n) breham karam j pooraneh ||

Associating with the Brahmin, one is saved, if his actions are perfect and God-like.

Awqm rqM sMswr ghM qy nr nwnk inhPlh ]65]

aatham ratha(n) sa(n)saar geha(n) thae nar naanak nihafaleh ||65||

Those whose souls are imbued with the world - O Nanak, their lives are fruitless. ||65||

Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Salok Vaaraan Thay Vadheek on Ang 1410

so bRhmxu jo ibMdY bRhmu ]

so brehaman jo bi(n)dhai breham ||

He alone is a Brahmin, who knows God.

jpu qpu sMjmu kmwvY krmu ]

jap thap sa(n)jam kamaavai karam ||

He chants and meditates, and practices austerity and good deeds.

sIl sMqoK kw rKY Drmu ]

seel sa(n)thokh kaa rakhai dhharam ||

He keeps to the Dharma, with faith, humility and contentment.

bMDn qoVY hovY mukqu ]

ba(n)dhhan thorrai hovai mukath ||

Breaking his bonds, he is liberated.

soeI bRhmxu pUjx jugqu ]16]

soee brehaman poojan jugath ||16||

Such a Brahmin is worthy of being worshipped. ||16||

your post would be much better if you just left the gurbani and deleted your paragraph of writing at the start.

you seem to have taken an offensive style of writing recently "here will be enough rotten heads who are going to think "

[Mehtab Singh]

your post would be much better if you just left the gurbani and deleted your paragraph of writing at the start. you seem to have taken an offensive style of writing recently "here will be enough rotten heads who are going to think "

I just stated the facts which are true . However, to make everyone's life easy, I will take off the lines you've highlighted. Happy?

[guptveer1469]

nice

Indira Gandhi, Nehru, Ganga Dhar Kaul, etc => No Brahmins.

Bhai Rama Singh, etc => Brahmins

[Mehtab Singh]

nice

Indira Gandhi, Nehru, Ganga Dhar Kaul, etc => No Brahmins.

Bhai Rama Singh, etc => Brahmins

Almost correct...

Indira Gandhi, Nehru, Ganga Dhar Kaul = Brahmins of the caste system

Bhai Rama Singh = "Brahmin" as defined by Gurujee

[guptveer1469]

right

[Bijla Singh]

I do not think any Sikh speaks against the definition of Brahmin in Gurbani but against the Brahmin of varna system. Shabad you have posted are not just for brahmins of varna system but for everyone. All definitions (muslim, pandit etc) convey the same message i.e. meditate upon Naam, do good deeds, purify your heat, stay in sangat, rise above false rituals etc.