Dasam Granth Veechar (Giani Ranjit Singh)

[ghatak]

Question about the Gutka. Which Gurdwara is it located in? Maybe some Gursikhs here or from India can go there and verify this Gutka by taking pictures of that Gutka to see the Rehras Sahib and since OSingh brought up the topic even take pictures of the Mangalcharans.

sant gurbachan singh ji bhindranwale also showed that gutka sahib to taksal students when they visited that place in rajasthan, i heard from baba harnaam singh dhumma in one video.

[osingh]

A committee needs to be made to do research into puratan saroops and gutka's in order to find correct paath and spellings, surely good research will answer these questions.

Before SGPC had good researchers who produced good literature on Gurmat and sikh history, unfortunately this imstitution is now asleep. Now SGPC has members that will use corrupt means to gain votes, what hope is there that SGPC will provide these answers?

[GPS]

A committee had been formed consisting of singhs with knowledge of language of Dasam granth in 1897.

They studied all saroops and finally approved the present saroop which is a standardized saroop.

Problem is that some heretics keep on raising irrelevant controversy on Guru sahib's bani and create confusion

in the minds of innocent sikhs. They themselves know nothing about Dasam bani.

[GPS]

When Guru sahib had gone to meet Emperor Bahadar shah at agra , Guru sahib had made dholpur few miles away from agra

his missionary center. Dholpur is the place where he camped and did parchar around agra, mathura etc.

[osingh]

One problem that arises is that if researchers find evidence that goes against a samparda or jatha they reject it.

Will a jathebandi or samparda accept evidence if it goes against a previous asool? This is a stumbling block.

Samparda's will use word misssionary/naastik and missionaries will use word like brahmin/hindu, yet both sides have valid points. Both sides need to come together, sit down and do veechar as per Gurmat.

[GPS]

Religious scriptures are beyond academic scrutiny and hence it foolishness to subject them human scrutiny.

Human intellect is finite whereas God's sermon is infinite.

Foolish and unread missionaries have failed to understand the message of Guru sahib.

It is foolishness to subject God's sermon to human intellect.

[GPS]

Samparda's will use word misssionary/naastik and missionaries will use word like brahmin/hindu, yet both sides have valid points. Both sides need to come together, sit down and do veechar as per Gurmat.

It is worth to know that missionaries do not respect sikh heritage and that include lives of Gurus too. They say our Gurus are

gone and hence their lives are of no importance.They do not attach any importance to historic Gurudwaras.

Missionary Jagtar jachak is on record saying that why sikhs go to Hazur sahib as it is a kabar( graveyard) of a dead person.

That is their mentality.

[osingh]

GPS ji

It is important to seperate good parcharaks from bad parcharaks. For example sikh missionary college has produced good literature and so has SGPC. You cannot tar all these people with the same brush.

Lets assess the individual and not use labels. This is what causes division in the panth.

I agree, parcharaks such as sarbjit singh dhunda and kala afghana afilliated 'Sikhs' are causing confusion and damage in the panth with their attacks on sri Dasam bani.

However, Sikhs from SGPC and missionary college support Dasam bani, Hazur Sahib etc.

We must distinguish the good from the bad.

[GPS]

Jagtar jachak is from missionary college Amritsar. All missionaries attack dasam bani, sikh history and sikh heritage.

Dhundha is the person who teaches at missionary school, Gurmat gian missionary college Ludhiana. You can imagine

what kind of teaching they do there.

[ghatak]

if any singh is going to india or planning to go in near future

Please post the pics of that gutka sahib so sangat can also have darshan online thanks