my views ?

[Bijla Singh]

very true but even if people are willing to become shaheeds they wouldn't write it on the forum. also, it is up to Guru Ji to decide who gets shaheedi because becoming a shaheed is a great seva and not everyone qualifies for it. even if some ppl are only thinking and writing still they support it and feel the panthik cause. regarding organizing to get khalistan, these things are not done in public unless you are talking about fighting peacefully and in that case there are many organizations and parties but I personally think they will never succeed.

"Koi Kisi Ko Raj Na Dehay, Jo Lehay Nij Bal Se Lehay" (Guru Gobind Singh Ji)

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

[sevak]

very true but even if people are willing to become shaheeds they wouldn't write it on the forum

and u shouldn't..regarding organizing to get khalistan, these things are not done in public unless you are talking about fighting peacefully

what happend to "Koi Kisi Ko Raj Na Dehay, Jo Lehay Nij Bal Se Lehay" (Guru Gobind Singh Ji)

c'mon people if we will take one step forward..with ardas and guru ji's hukam..sure victory will be of khalsa ...

[Bijla Singh]

what happend to "Koi Kisi Ko Raj Na Dehay, Jo Lehay Nij Bal Se Lehay" (Guru Gobind Singh Ji)

It is the ultimate truth. what I meant was if someone wants to go back to fight he/she would not write it on the forum and make public announcements. there are other ways to fight like using media and stuff which would get you some support but not freedom.

[mann_kaum_layee_qurbaan]

"pumping our sikh youth towards hatered and khalistan.."

khalistan is not hatred. India has made it synonomous with hatred. You want hatred, bharat is hatred. Indira Gandhi who killed Sikhs has an airport named after her. Sikhs land in INdira Gandhi airport. That is hatred. Memorials for sikh killers such as Beant, that is hatred. Killing human rights activists, that is hatred. Attacking Guru Granth Sahib Ji's birs on trains in Calcutta, that is hatred. INdia is hatred. using a constitution to erase the sikh identity, that is hatred. Sending RSS agents to Punjab that is hatred. keeping people in jails since 1984 without trials that is hatred. Keeping stolen history from sikh reference library after 1984 attack, that is hatred.

Sant jarnail Singh ji giving a Hindu mandir money to rebuild after a fire that is not hatred. Khalistani singhs living in junglesfighting corrupt officers is not hatred. Defending sikhi is not hatred. Why did maharaja ranjit singh have a sikh empire. was that hatred?

You people talk about hate and forget everything. What is the differnece between the British and the Indian government? When sikhs fought the british for freedom everyone is like wah wah, what a brave kaum, even though the likes of gandhi couldn't stand sikh freedom fighters. Now when the khalsa panth is again fighting for justice, it is HATRED! PLEASE.

Why couldn't the british stay in India? The british were not all bad, for God sakes they never hurt Nehru or Gandhi. They even had an inquiry into Jalianwaala Bagh massacre. They built many of the roads that are present in india. They build parliament house in new delhi

nad many other great buildings. Well after independence for bharat i see hundreds of thousands of indians in britain. Do you people think that freedom from a nation means the end of all relations. Get a dose of reality. the same khalsa who witnessed the destruction of Akal takhat sahib did not massacre hindus so now you people think an independent khalistan would be a massacre of hindus. Please take your bharat propaganda somewhere else.

And on this Indian independence day what are you bharat sikhs proud of?

1947- independence

1966-punjab state finally made after sikh courted arrest in the thousands and hundreds killed.

1978-gov't supported nirankaris kill innocent gursikhs

1984 darbar sahib attacked

1984-Delhi pogroms

1984-1995- innocent sikh youth murdered in the thousands

1995-present RSS openly criticizes Sikhi and Sikh gurus.

Where from this mahaan bharat history do you see a future for Sikhs?!

Manmohan singh who put tytler back in parliament? is he your reason?

You speak of cancer a 57 year cancer is awefully deadly. Jeda desh tuhanu kuttiya wangu rakhe, ki tusi ohnu apna desh kehe sakde ah?

And for all you people who say what have we in the west done, we have educated the masses. How many of your bharat leaders have told the western world that they have murdered over 200,000 sikhs. We are here to tell the dark secrets of your bharat.

What about kartar singh sarabha in california and the ghadar party. Don't underestimate the western sikhs, in the dharam yudh morcha hundreds flocked back and gave shaheedi.

And yes i go to punjab, i have family in punjab, They all say the same thing, assi khalistan ta chaunde ha par police waaliah di maar kaun kayee jaawe, eh loki bahut zalum ah, eh ta teeah bhaina nu wi nahi bakashde.

go celebrate your bharat i-day, but we are not in the mood to celebrate gulami.

khalistan zindabaad!

[Bijla Singh]

very true and good post :wub: those who support khalistan in Punjab get their family members killed and women dishonored and no one supports them. no human right organizations, no government officials. just no one there who would give them justice. it is time to take justice and serve justice. fire is still burning.