Attack On Harmandir Sahib In 1984

[Singh, Mahan]

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Seems like that the letter can not be accessed via the third website (Sikh Sangat in this case - perhaps because of the way it sends out the URL) . But it can be accessed directly if you can type the address in your browser . The URL address is After the usual protocol letters http://www. please type

scribd.com/doc/45704391/Longowal-letter2 (Please type this after the usual protocol letters http://www. first)

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[GPS]

shall we all just make GPS happy so the mods can close this ridiculous thread?

yes GPS, badal is a saint, lets all kiss his feet, he had nothing to do with operation bluestar or any atrocities to sikhs, yes GPS you are the best, you know the most and we know nothing, we will try and make our point but you wont care or take it on board, yawn yawn GPS your a dime a dozen, coming on here to portray badal as some superior, mods i make a request for this thread to be closed GPS clearly has some kind of agenda, fake

i did not say badal is a saint. No politician is saint and badal is a politician..

Someone accused badal and in turn sikhs /akali dal of that time that they planned attack on harmandir sahib.

I say that attack was sole decision of indira gandhi. To lay blame on sikhs for this heinous crime is to absolve

the wicked Indira.

Badal had very little say in akali dal of that time.tohra and longowal was supreme.

Read the posts before writing nonsense here that does not relate to the topic. Your language shows the creed you belong to.I am asking for the references from those who made this allegation and if you are so touched , provide that instead of posting hate laden post because of your bias irrelevant to the thread may be to please your congress masters. This is a plain fact and you cann't wish it away.

such threads are very relevant to know the background of this whole saga as propagandists are hijacking the history on the net

putting blame on sikhs themselves.Reveal if you have anything up yo.ur sleeve and saty focussed on the topic and not on personalities.

[GPS]

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Seems like that the letter can not be accessed via the third website (Sikh Sangat in this case - perhaps because of the way it sends out the URL) . But it can be accessed directly if you can type the address in your browser . The URL address is After the usual protocol letters http://www. please t

scribd.com/doc/45704391/Longowal-letter2 (Please type this after the usual protocol letters http://www. first)

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Singh Mahan ji

Most probably you are referring to a letter supposed to be written by Sant Longowal dictator of Morcha to Some Dhawan Indira Gandhi's secretary.

This letter was found to be fake. Agencies do plant such information in order to malign sikhs.

[GPS]

http://khalistannews...ned-by-mrs.html

For those people who don't know all the facts, according to Indian army's Lt. Gen. Sinha the army had started training to attack the Golden Temple 16 months before the actual attack in June 1984. For all those people who know about Punjab situtation in 1982-83, the things were not perfect but at the same time they were not that bad that Mrs. Gandhi had to order army to start training and preparing to attack the Golden Temple. The fact is that Mrs Gandhi was very upset with Sikh community for opposing her Emergency rule and wanted to punish them for forcing her to remove the Emergency and loosing the next elections. Even according to former Canadian High Commissioner to India in 1984 Mr. William Warden who testified before Justice Major at Air India inquiry that in 1975 Indira Gandhi imposed a state of emergency in India and the Sikh Akali party of Punjab launched one of the largest and most effective demonstrations against what she was doing. Finally the emergency was lifted in 1977 and she lost the next elections. When Indira Gandhi was re-elected as PM in 1980, she was particularly angry about the Sikh protests against her dictatorial rule during the two years of emergency rule and was determined to teach Sikhs a lesson. In Mr. Warden's words it was a 'pay back time'. So Mrs. Gandhi was determined to teach Sikhs a lesson and also knew that such an action will make her very popular in Hindu majority and help her to win the next elections very easily. So Mrs. Gandhi started planning this Blue Star Operation in early 1982 with her close set of advisors. In early 1982 Akali party had started very peaceful Dharmyudh Morcha starting from the Golden Temple. That is when Mrs. Gandhi started having close meetings with her advisors. Though I wasn't present the meetings but I assume that some of the discussions were in the following way. ( not just one meeting but various meetings )

Note: Lt gen SK sinha was vice chief of army staff that time. He was called by Indira Gandhi and asked opinion on attack

on Harmandir sahib. He advised against it.

[GPS]

http://khalistannews...ned-by-mrs.html

Mrs. Gandhi -- Oh these Akali party leaders start all their movements from the Golden Temple. I am very angry against these Akali leaders for fisrt opposing my Emergency rule powers and now starting this Dharamyudh Morcha from the Golden Temple. I think we should attack and destroy the Golden Temple and then the Akali party won't be able to start such strong movements from there.

Advisor -- Oh, no Madam we can't do that. Golden Temple is a religious place of worship. And any damage done to this religious place will be considered very bad all over. How will we explain and justify the attack on religious place to the rest of the world ? All the world leaders and media will turn against us.

Mrs. Gandhi -- No we won't attack it right away. There are some elements in Punjab who are talking about usiing force and violance to force us to accept their demands. Maybe we can encourage these violent elements to get stronger and provide them more weapons. We can even send our own secret Black Cat elements to merge with them and commit violent crimes and innocent killings of Hindu people. That will create bad feelings and violance between general Hindus and Sikhs. And slowly that will turn the general public against those Sikhs and the general public will start asking us to use force against those violent elements. And we'll tell the rest of India that we have to attack Golden Temple to protect Hindu lives from the Sikh terrorists. That will make large Hindu majority voters vote for us in the next elections. Large number of Hindus will start calling me Durga or Chandi Devi ( Godess )

Advisor-- But Madam the Sikh community living in western countries will raise voice against us for attackinng a Sikh religious place and discrimination. The western media and political leaders will start listening to the issues raised by Sikhs living in those countries and will start speaking up against India in UNO.

Mrs. Gandhi -- Don't worry. We can send our Black Cat agents to western countries to act and do stupid things as Sikh terrorists. That will turn the western leaders and media against the Sikhs cause. And the western leaders and media will start accepting and supporting whatever we'll do against the Sikh community here. Another thing we'll do is that we'll nominate my big follower and Yes-man Zail Singh as Presidential candidate and get him elected as President of India. Then we'll tell the rest of the world that Sikh President who is also commander-in-chief of the army had ordered the army to attack the Golden Temple. Furthermore we'll use Sikh Generals to lead the army attack. Then we can tell the rest of world that Sikh President and Sikh Army Generals are attacking the Golden Temple and fighting against Sikh terrorists. We'll tell the world that good Sikhs are fighting against the bad Sikhs. And we are just the bystanders trying to create peaceful conditions in Punjab.

All these discussions and comments are very imaginary and not real, but they are very close to the real things that happened later on. Things were not that bad and violent in Punjab in 82-83 that Mrs. Gandhi had to order army to start training to attack the Golden Temple. And later on Mrs. Gandhi tried to have meetings with Akali leaders to solve the problems and create peaceful situation in Punjab. But the fact is that she had no real intentions to solve the problems. She knew that army was training and things were getting worse and she knew that the attack on Golden Temple will be justfiable and acceptable according to the conditions that were being created in Punjab.

Anybody who says all this is imaginary and Mrs. Gandhi had no such intentions. Can that person explain why army started training 16 months before the actual attack in 1984 ? Have you ever heard of army in any other country train to attack a religious place just for training purposes ? Another point is that if Mrs. Gandhi had no intention to kill innocent Sikhs and teach them a lesson then why no effort was made to get thousands of innocent worshippers out of the Golden Temple to save their lives before the army attack. According to Maj. Gen. Jamwal who was involved in the Blue Star Operation many officers felt that innocent worshippers should be given a chance to come out before the attack. They even suggested to cut power, food and water supplies to force terrorists to give up and come out without army attack. But unfortunately all these suggestions were rejected by Mrs. Gandhi's Govt. because she didn't care about innocent lives lost or destruction caused to the Golden Temple. She just wanted to show her force and teach Sikh community a lesson. According to Maj. Gen. Jamwal he refused to follow orders to kill and shoot arrested persons with their hands tied behind their backs, but unfortunately there were some other officers who followed these orders killed hundreds of arrested persons with their hands tied behind their backs. This is a violation of International laws to kill arrested persons in such situations. But all this happened there because it was all approved and ordered by Mrs. Gandhi's Govt.

Wheras we are remembering and paying homage to thousands of innocent lives lost in 1984. There we should try and hope that International Human Rights Organisations, Justice Organisations and United Nations etc. should look at all these facts and declare judgement against the guilty Indian Govt. led by Mrs Indira Gandhi.

[JasSinghKhalsa]

Letter attached.