Does prayer/meditation/ardaas really work?

[samosasingh]

Does prayer/meditation/ardaas really work for fullfilemt of desires and help in helplesness.....

I think it is a case by case basis.Those whose desires are not fullfiled usually loose faith on God and Bani that it actually has any power to do anything and become very bitter, eventually resorting to more practical ways of achieving there goals.

I sometimes myself am not sure if Bani has anything to do with our worldly lives but everything to do with those who are yearning for self realisation.

Practically speaking sometimes the ardaas is fullfiled and most times not. Which makes you question whether or not it was going to happen anyway and we are just making this ardaas a means to make money.

Why is it we need to praise god to attain our desires - yes it is supposed to dilute your ego problem, I know - but whn it doesn't work you are left broken, you can only sustain so many hits in life before you start to question the existense of God and Guru and whether or not they are really out there to help you or are they just playing a game with you or do they really exist......somebody answer my questions truthfully.

[Jaggaa]

Hey there samosasingh jee,

I am sure that this question of yours has been asked before and if someone can't point you to a post very similar to yours then they will do there best to answer it. I am not knowledgable intelectually on the Ardas to answer a question on how practical/successful it may be. The fact of the matter is, Veerjee. Do we even know what is best for us? What if what we asked for in our Ardaas was not answered the way 'we' wanted it simply because it was not the best for us? Or perhaps, not the best for others involved? You see, we don't know what's right for us or not. I really won't go much into the Ardaas as I feel there are others on the forum which can elaborate on that to much higher value than someone as blind as me.

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What I wanted to just point on based on what you have said

"Practically speaking sometimes the ardaas is fullfiled and most times not. Which makes you question whether or not it was going to happen anyway and we are just making this ardaas a means to make money."

• So for example, you doing an Ardaas for a Mercedes Benz and then not recieving it by the time you wanted it. Is this the type of scenario you are talking about? or are you talking about when we ask Guru Sahib for Naam Daan, Chardikala etc? If it is the latter then how do we know Veer jee whether our Ardaas was fulfilled or not? Even if it was, how would we know - he might have fulfilled it in a way we simply can't see? You see the point i'm trying to make? Eventually it comes to a point out of our control, you have to have the Shardaa and the Pyaar for you to live in is Hukam and perhaps somewhat blind faith in Mahraj and the belief that we aren't fully aware of what's going on around us, what was coming our way and what interception Guru Sahib has done for us. For example, there is a child who wants a Sugar/Candy sweet. He keeps on asking for it but we don't give it to him because we see the larger picture - we know that if we give him the sweet on the basis he is asking for it then his teeth will suffer. Poor kid doesn't that, but we do. The kid will be dissapointed with us and think we haven't listened to what he has asked of us(I'm sorry, this probably doesn't make sense, but again as I said - someone here will elaborate on the Ardaas concept).
• "We are just making this Ardaas a means to make money" - In what way is the Ardaas meant to be for money? When you stand in front of Mahraaj, you stand there in his presence in front of him and do your Ardaas, at what point is Mahraaj asking for money? This is new to me. Now if what you're talking about is the situation where Sangat donates X ammount of £/$'s etc to the Gurdwara to get the Pathee/Ragi/Granthi Singh to mention your name in the Ardaas. You have to step back and think what you're actually doing. You are in effect, donating to the Gurdwara which is suppose to be Nishkam(without the expectance of a return) or perhaps your Daswandh(Totally different concept, which I won't go into), you can NOT in any way PAY for an Ardaas. It's not something that's sold. Please drop this idea that you have about where it's for making money. The Singh who does the Ardaas in the Gurdwara is only saying what you have asked him to say and he should/would do this regardless whether you donated anything or not as they are 2 different things in the Gurdwara.

You see Veerjee, if you want to talk about Ardaas for money, you really need to start a different topic and keep this topic to your main question about it's authenticity. Veerjee, what I have said above, I mean it in no insulting/offending manner at all. In fact to some extent I am sure this type of question is on many other peoples minds and i'm thankful to you that you have raised such a question.

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Just another quick point about another question you have asked and I think it should be created as a whole different topic.

"I sometimes myself am not sure if Bani has anything to do with our worldly lives but everything to do with those who are yearning for self realisation."

Veerjee, all I want to say on this that Bani is EVERYTHING. It has to do with Everything and it has missed out nothing. It's the way of life, it tells you how eat,drink,talk,walk. However this is a question for another topic, also another great question.

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I'm sure some knowledgeable Sikh will answer and hopefully reaffirm your faith in the Ardaas, till then - best wishes and I hope Mahraaj listens to your Ardaas and he gives you the strength to remain within in his will.

I'm going to hit like on your post and I hope someone takes out the time to debate the questions you have posed.

[harsharan000]

Does prayer/meditation/ardaas really work?

Yes it does.

The thing is, the results are not per our wishes always, moreover, there is a significant difference if our ardaas is for worldly desires, of we ask for Him, from Him.

If it is for wolrldy related issues, then, we are tightening our ties in the cycle of births and deaths, for when Wahiguru satisfies our prayers/desires, we have to be here in this world to receive their fruits.

But if as said, we ask Him from Him, then for sure, that is the right attitude, which He gracefully fulfills, and the result is that we cut off our ties for once and forever from the perishable creation, and we are not born anymore, for, we have gone and become one with Him, in Him. Immortal like Himself

So you see, prayers are always answered, no matter how much time it  may take, that is for the wise Nature to decide when and where to fullfill them,  but the difference lies in the asking, so why not ask Himself from Wahiguru, the source of all true and eternal bliss.

Sat Sree Akal.

 

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

I am a personal witness that yes it does. 

Do one thing : Do ardas for a thing you want every morning in front of Sri Guru granth sahib ji . Do it with the impression that ur pleading directly in front of god itself and have faith and emotional softness in ur heart towards the omnipotence of god . 

he will def listen. It may take time but it works. Also from personal experience I can vouch for the 40-day sukhmani sahib . It really fulfils ur wishes provided u do one path of sukhmani sahib daily and afterwords pray for fulfilment of ur wish