Where was God when the Tsunami hit?

[rKr]

This has done the rounds on many e-lists - I've been asked the question so often since this disaster... thought to share this with you all

PART 1

I was in a petrol station waiting to pay. The old lady infront was

talking to the Sri Lankan serving her. He said he knew people who

had died, but he smiled and said "Its Gods Will."

The English lady replied, "Well I dont know what God is playing at."

That is the question everyone wants an answer to : "WHY?"

If God is loving and caring and we are His children then WHY do this

to us?

The TV journalists dont ask that question. They present the facts,

they even give the sciencitfic explanation. But science can only

tell you HOW it happened - two of the Earths plates collided sending

huge waves out in all directions.

By sciencists being able to explain it, it gives everyone a sense of

relief. It makes everyone feel that MAN is in control again of what

is happening around us.

But people shouldn't be satisfied with just the science, they have to

ask the WHY question.

Great Guru Nanak Dev Ji has given the answer in two simple words, why

does God do this? Because "DUKH DARU". Meaning PAIN IS THE CURE.

The Cure for what?

Guru Ji continues, "SUKH ROG BHAAIYA" …PLEASURE HAD BECOME THE

DISEASE.

Why is the pleasure of chasing your desires a disease? Guru ji

gives the final answer. Because, "JA SUKH TAM NA HOEE". …WHILE

THERE IS PLEASURE, YOU O LORD ARE NOT REMEMBERED.

Whenever you or me or any other individual suffers pain, sorrow and

suffering, the question God wants you to ask yourself is "Why am I in

pain?"

T

hus begins the journey of the soul.

If you don't ask that question and keep hiding behind science, you

have not learnt what pain is teaching you. A child is causing

havoc in the kitchen, the mother is cooking the curry, the child is

about to grab the handle, the mother slaps his hand. The child

cries and throws a tantrum. We as older and wiser adults can see

the bigger picture. The child cant and gets upset with his mum. As

my two year old would say, "Mum naughty."

Guru Gobind Singh ji salutes God as "NAMO LOK MATA" … I bow to the

Mother of the World.

What would Guru Gobind Singh ji have said about this disaster? What

did he say when his own four sons, mother and father lost their

lives? Was he devastated? Was he bitter at what God did to him?

No. All Guru Gobind Singh ji said, and what all the Gurus and

Bhagats and saints say is ,

"MA HAU PARAM PURAKH KA DASAA. DEKHAN AAYO JAGAT TAMASHA."

I am a servant of the Supreme Being. Here to watch the world drama.

And would any Guru or any Bhagat or any saint, feel sad in such a

situation? No, because Gurbani says.

"NANAK BHAGTAN KA GHAR SADA ANAND."

Nanak says : The house (heart) of a Saint is in permanent eternal

joy.

The Gurus and Saints don't see anything in the world as a disaster.

They see it as God's Will. The Mother who is slapping the child to

wake it up out of the illusion it is living in.

The Guru's and saints have made God their Guru. And that Guru is

ever stable, ever permanent …ABCHAL NAGAR – the place that NEVER gets

destroyed.

Only the ones who made the world and chasing of desires for worldy

happiness cry. They made the WORLD into their GURU. But that Guru

is false because it is forever changing. The World is under the

Divine Law of coming and going, birth and death, joy and sorrow.

All pain is a wakeup call to make God into your Guru, and not the

world.

AAD ANT EKAY AVTA

RA

SOEE GURU SAMJIO HAMARA

From beginning to end HE is ONE

That is my GURU.

GURU GOBIND SINGH JI

Only God is Truth. All else is perishable.

So merge your mind into the TRUTH

JAP MAN SATNAAM SADA SATNAAM

My mind repeat SATNAAM , always and forever SATNAAM.

Dust of your feet.

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PART 2

Here are some questions and answers from an enlightened soul to see

how the mind of a saint views disasters in the world.

1.When you see a disaster like what has happened in Asia - the

Tsunami What do you feel and think?

To be honest with you didn't feel anything, no disturbance at all, it

is all Hukam of Akal Purakh, he gets <Edited> off once in a while too,

when there is too much of kood(falsehood) accummulates, to remind

people of His existance He does something like this, this also

establishes that everything can't be controlled by human mind, His

controll is the supreme control, this brings a feeling in the

polulation that there is something like God that also exists, the

feeling of compassion, love and service for the sufferers in the mind

of the rest of the humanity and these are all good things that are

born from a disaster like this. His will – Hukam can't be questioned,

this is also His kindness that this happened in the ocean, it didn't

happen on the land which could have been a lot more disasterous.

2. Some people will ask why does God do this?

It is nor God who is responsible for such things, it is the Karni of

the people that makes this their fate like that, whatever you will

sow same you will reap. It is not God's karni or God's fault, it is

the Karni (bad deeds) of the people who are destined to be so because

of there Karni from their previous lives, so it should be taken as

God's will and be dealt with patience, compassion, love and serve the

people who are effected by this disaster.

3. What did those 150,000 souls do wrong

to suffer like that?

Only God knows it and only He can answer this question, but this is

for sure that it was there destiny and could not be averted or

avoided at any cost with any amount of human efforts.

4. How does karma theory explain what happened to them .... why did

the sea kill them?

There is nothing to be explained, you are getting too emotional over

the Hukam, you have to keep your balance of mind and think of the

ways and means to serve these people to diminish their sufferings.

Sea didn't kill them, the Janam (birth) and maran(death) is in the

hands of the God and is the destiny based on your Karams from this

and previous lives, it is as simple than that, as we said nobody can

challenge the Hukam, and doing so will be not accepting the Hukam,

which is the cause for the sufferings.

5. How do we react to it as spiritual people ..i.e. mind feels sad

towards them..

Acceept the Hukam, stay calm and pray, do Naam Simran and Seva.

6. How do we help?

All you can do is send some monetary help, unless you want to go

physically there and participate in relief activities through some

agencies.

[singh77]

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[shaster_rani]

Vaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

I was having a similar discussion with a friend earlier. but it was about an older family member of theirs who was in hospital and in great pain. My friend was trying to figure out why Vaheguroo would put a person through so much pain and suffering. i tried to explain that our bad karam from our past lives and indeed even this life would be the reason for our pains. We do not have the knowledge of our past sins, yet we DO have to eventually pay for them. We should be arguing with God and questioning the bad things that happen. As YSL pointed out, we should accept Vaheguroo's hukum.

thaeraa keeaa meet(h)aa laagai ||

Your actions seem so sweet to me.

Everything Vaheguroo does, every situation which we may find ourselves in, is in our best interests. Nothing He does is out of spite.. Nir Vair

Perhaps God puts us through a little pain so that in the future we are saved from a lot of pain? We are all full of sins, and we should do ardaas to ask for His mercy and the strength to truly remember Him in every breath!

maadhho ham aisae thoo aisaa ||

O Lord, this is what we are, and this is what You are.

ham paapee thum paap kha(n)ddan neeko t(h)aakur dhaesaa || rehaao ||

We are sinners, and You are the Destroyer of sins. Your abode is so beautiful, O Lord and Master. ||Pause||

We get this wonderful chance in the human form to merge with the One and only, so why waste it by committing more sins, which will lead to numerous births and deat

hs and yet more pain??

Vaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!