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To put the question in better terms, what is the significance of hair in Sikhi. Please refrain from using harsh language

Can you guys stop arguing over something so little and get back on topic? Satguru jee ney bilkul sehi keha haumai deeragh rog hai !

There are 8 types of amritvela. Please listen to japji sahib Katha by giani thakur Singh Jee where he explains what each of them are The first is as everyone knows from 12 midnight till sunrise. Giani Ji said that door of sachkhand is fully open 12-4am. Then it gets closed half way till 5am. After 5am it is closed completely but a small window is kept open till sunrise. Once sun rises even that small window is closed Another type of amritvela is when we read gurbani. This can be anytime during the day. It is well known within the panth that rising early is one of the most important things for a sikh. Bhagat fareed Jee says Fareedaa raat kathoori vandeai, suttea Miley naa bhao. Jinna nain nindravaley tinna Milan kuaoo.

Added the following reoccurring Jaaps x3 for past six days 2000 by Jaswinder Singh Veerji and his Singhni Ji + 250 for their son Japjit Singh 270 by 270*gupt Veerji + 50 by Kaljugi 108 by Avnit 1000 by Bhai Surinder Mohan Singh ji Added 156 kar4n as well Total now is: 300,614

sloku mÚ 1 ] salok ma 1 || Salok, First Mehla: jy kir sUqku mMnIAY sB qY sUqku hoie ] jae kar soothak ma(n)neeai sabh thai soothak hoe || If one accepts the concept of impurity, then there is impurity everywhere. gohy AqY lkVI AMdir kIVw hoie ] gohae athai lakarree a(n)dhar keerraa hoe || In cow-dung and wood there are worms. jyqy dwxy AMn ky jIAw bwJu n koie ] jaethae dhaanae a(n)n kae jeeaa baajh n koe || As many as are the grains of corn, none is without life. pihlw pwxI jIau hY ijqu hirAw sBu koie ] pehilaa paanee jeeo hai jith hariaa sabh koe || First, there is life in the water (water has life), by which everything else is made green. sUqku ikau kir rKIAY sUqku pvY rsoie ] soothak kio kar rakheeai soothak pavai rasoe || How can it be protected from impurity? It touches our own kitchen. nwnk sUqku eyv n auqrY igAwnu auqwry Doie ]1] naanak soothak eaev n outharai giaan outhaarae dhhoe ||1|| O Nanak, impurity cannot be removed in this way; it is washed away only by spiritual wisdom. ||1|| Further along, Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Sahib Jee gives us the 'spiritual wisdom' (mentioned above) mÚ 1 ] ma 1 || First Mehla: mn kw sUqku loBu hY ijhvw sUqku kUVu ] man kaa soothak lobh hai jihavaa soothak koorr || The impurity of the mind is greed, and the impurity of the tongue is falsehood. AKI sUqku vyKxw pr iqRA pr Dn rUpu ] akhee soothak vaekhanaa par thria par dhhan roop || The impurity of the eyes is to gaze upon the beauty of another man's wife, and his wealth. kMnI sUqku kMin pY lwieqbwrI Kwih ] ka(n)nee soothak ka(n)n pai laaeithabaaree khaahi || The impurity of the ears is to listen to the slander of others. nwnk hMsw AwdmI bDy jm puir jwih ]2] naanak ha(n)saa aadhamee badhhae jam pur jaahi ||2|| O Nanak, (such a ) mortal's soul goes, bound and gagged to the city of Death. ||2||

^ Is it just me that thinks that showing mutilated bodies of our highly respectable shaheeds is disrespectful?

Again, don't make things personal in the thread or it will be closed. Use the PM feature instead.

If you read jeevani of puratan Singhs, one thing is common to all of them. They had very strict amritvela and did LOTS of Gurbani abhiyaas. I read Bhai Rama Singh Jee's book a few years ago and Bhai sahib noted that as you move further on the path of Gursikhi, your body starts to get numb. The process starts at the feet and it progresses upward from there. Eventually, you get to a point where you do not feel pain or pleasure at all from anything. Giani Thakur Singh Jee also talks about this in his Japji Sahib katha. It's not a matter of 'mind controls the body' as you put (I feel you are moving fast toward becoming an atheist) but it's the power of Naam. That power comes by doing lots and lots of Gurbani abhyaas which can only be done once Waheguru Jee does kirpa on us. To answer your questions directly, Yes, their body did feel pain. But through the immense amount of Naam kamai they had, they were in complete anand at all times and thus didn't care/feel. Such things are impossible to explain and impossible to understand unless you have such a avastha your self. I certainly do not.

Please be advised that if things get personal, the thread will be closed.

Well put. Thread closed. Let's focus on Gurbani first please.

Your last thread was closed as it was in the wrong section. Moving.

^ Right you are. Thread closed West London Singh, perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Women and men are equal, but only spiritually. I hope I don't have to go into details of how they are different physically. That is all I was trying to say. It's Panj Singh (not singhnia), panj Payarey (not payaria).

Added the following reoccurring Jaaps x3 for past six days 2000 by Jaswinder Singh Veerji and his Singhni Ji + 250 for their son Japjit Singh 270 by 270*gupt Veerji + 50 by Kaljugi 108 by Avnit 1000 by Bhai Surinder Mohan Singh ji Total now is: 289,424

This has been discussed plenty of times on this forum, please use the search feature. A quick search found me this thread http://www.sikhsanga...2Bbibia+%2Bpanj I would also like to add that the western concept of equality (which the current generation is aware of) is not necessarily the same in Gurmat.

bahut vadia Tusi likhea aap?

Dhanwaad payareo I Googled and came across a direct link to the Katha done by Giani Thakur Singh Je http://www.gurmatvee...Granth_Sahib_Ji A huge thank you to the payarey at gurmatveechar for their untiring seva in making so many gurbani resources made available to the sangat worldwide :respect:

Can the entire katha be downloaded from somewhere?

So we are just suppose to take your word for it? While I have nothing against you personally, that does not sit well with me. If you make a claim on a public forum, you should provide direct evidence to support your claim.

^ Again, do you have any proof for what you wrote?

Very well put! Topic closed.

This is recited prior to starting katha from Suraj Prakash Granth written by Kavi Santokh Singh Jee. I'm not sure of the source of the dohra (?) but I always assumed it was noted in Suraj Prakah Granth.

As noted by other members, there are good and bad apples in every community. Learn from the good ones and pray for the bad ones. Closing topic.

I think all that needs to be said from a Sikhi perspective has been said, the link is quite good. So I'm closing this topic now as it has already been reported (thank you for that).