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@MisterrSinghIf we assume you are correct that there's little difference between the Tory and Labour Party policies/decisions once the Party gets elected, do you think there would be any difference in the individual MP of Indian or Pakistan descent and which Party they choose to represent ? I know Labour has history of more Asian and black MP's, but Tory Party increasingly also have minorities. Could someone like Sunak, Patel, Javid or Malhotra, Tan Dhesi, Preet Gill have run for the opposing Party? For example, Seema Malhotra was supposed to be one of the 'richest' MP's when elected.

This is why Sikhs should not make themselves an ethnicity, as it means we can include the Panjabi baggage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahant

So two of them are out of jail. Anyone know how the others are doing ? How did the Sikhs find out he was in the country ? ?? "Lt Gen Brar told BBC London they had "got what they deserved". Following the sentencing, Lt Gen Brar said: "I think they have got what they deserved. It was heinous crime committed by them. Recalling the "terrible" ordeal, he said he and his wife were "walking happily" when suddenly "hurly burly-looking Sikhs" pounced on them. "I had to fight back because if I had just given in I think that would have been the end of it. "Luckily they weren't able to get my throat in the first stab, they got me on the back then they stabbed my cheek and finally one of them was able to slash my throat and I started bleeding heavily."??

Yeah, those 'City Sikhs' half of them have surname of rural Indian descent. I meant the traditionally urban Indian Sikh and rural Sikhs. Not the 99.9%+ Sikhs in UK who live in suburbs or urban area Agree that the different groups of Sikh backgrounds, should work together more closely. Think Jews have done this.

Traitors within again https://sikhsiyasat.net/2018/08/23/kuldip-brar-london-attack-case-bibi-hardeep-kaur-released-on-12-weeks-parole/ Jailed for 26 Years, Sikh Political Prisoner Prof. Bhullar Awaits Formal Release Order To Be Issued by Kejriwal Led AAP Govt. December 16, 2021 New Delhi: Sikh political prisoner Professor Davinderpal Singh Bhullar is awaiting a formal release order as all legal barriers in his release are removed. His release is ordered by the Union government of India which is endorsed by the Punjab government and local authorities. The only remaining formality remains is issuance of release order which is to be issued by the Arvind Kejriwal led Aam Aadmi Party government in Delhi. It is notable that Prof. Davinderpal Singh Bhullar has been jailed since 1995. His permanent release was cleared by the Government of India in 2019 on the occasion of 550th Parkash Gurpurab of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. As Prof. Bhullar was sentenced to imprisonment for life in a Delhi case; the Union government had asked the Delhi government to issue his release order. But the process of his release was halted when Maninder Bitta filed a writ petition in Supreme Court of India against Prof. Bhullar’s release. The petition was dismissed by SCI last week. Talking to the Sikh Siyasat News (SSN) Panjaab Lawyers’ Advocate Jaspal Singh Manjhpur, counsel of Prof. Bhullar, said: “all legal barriers against Prof. Davinderpal Singh Bhullar’s permanent release are lifted now”. “Central government of India and Punjab government has expressed their concurrence for release of Prof. Bhullar. Only formality left behind is issuance of formal release order by the Arvind Kejriwal led Delhi Government”, he added.

This is not new. At least 15 years ago I remember seeing photos or hearing from my Mum about a wedding she'd just attended in Panjab and surprised to know that chest exposure (to above the cleavage) and some back exposure in suits was considered 'fashion'.

Should not be these types of 'beauty contest' at all. They probably started with just based on face. Over time, it's become about the body. Same for men, shouldn't have these contests.

They discuss the 'proper' stuff more there, basically Bani, Itihaas more, and in more depth than here. A manmukh like me prefers 'current affairs' and news which is done much more here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html Morgue monster will die behind bars: David Fuller who called himself 'Necro Lord' and murdered two women then raped corpses of more than 100 women aged 9-100 is given TWO whole life orders - as families say loved ones were 'robbed of dignity in death' The perverted murderer left), 67, pleaded guilty to the murders of Wendy Knell (top right), 25, and Caroline Pierce (centre right), 20, last month. Fuller beat and strangled the women to death before sexually assaulting them in two separate attacks in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, in 1987. He also admitted a further 51 offences related to sexually abusing at least 102 victims, of which 82 have been identified, in the mortuaries of Kent and Sussex and Tunbridge Wells hospitals over more than a decade. His youngest victim was just nine, two were aged 16, and the oldest was 100. Azra Kemal (bottom right) was 'violated' at least three times while in the morgue at Tunbridge Wells Hospital. The identities of the remaining 20 victims may never be known. 1 comment 4 videos 2.4k shares

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/ranvir-singhs-boyfriend-26-son-25707612 Ranvir Singh's boyfriend, 26, is son of producer behind Big Brother and Small Fortune Good Morning Britain presenter Ranvir Singh, 44, and Louis Church, 26, reportedly met while she was on Strictly Come Dancing Ranvir Singh's new boyfriend, 26, is son of producer behind Big Brother and Small Fortune By Zara WoodcockShowbiz Reporter 16:48, 15 Dec 2021 Ranvir Singh has been busy enjoying her time hanging out with her new young boyfriend, Louis Church, and many have been wondering who he is. The Good Morning Britain star, 44, and Louis, 26, went public with their romance recently when they attended Capital's Jingle Bell Ball at the O2 Arena. They reportedly met backstage while she was participating in Strictly Come Dancing with professional dance partner Giovanni Pernice in 2020. According to MailOnline, the 26-year-old - who also works in production - is the son of acclaimed television producer Lucas Church. Mr Church has worked on shows like Big Brother and Pointless. Lucas ran TV production company Endemol as chief executive between May 2012 and December 2014 before becoming Chairman. He then set up Youngest Media with David Flynn, Endemol's chief creative director. Ranvir - who announced her split from her husband Ranjeet Singh Dehal last year - recently shared a short insight into their blossoming romance. Addressing the reports about her romance, Ranvir very briefly spoke to The Sun where she gleefully confirmed: "I’m really happy." Ranvir was previously married to Ranjeet in 2012 but the couple revealed they were divorced last year.

Well, I just found a good example against what I said https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad/sikh-cabbie-saves-13-year-old-girl-from-paedophile-in-uk-1781957 Sikh Cabbie Saves 13-Year-Old Girl From Paedophile In UK Satbir Arora picked up the girl on February 20, dressed in her school uniform, after she booked his taxi to go from her home in Oxfordshire to Gloucester train station, the Metro.co.uk reported. : November 30, 2017 Satbir Arora was presented with a certificate for outstanding achievement in safeguarding. 1 London: A Sikh taxi driver has been hailed as a hero for saving a 13-year-old school girl in the UK from a planned abduction by a paedophile armed with knives, tape and sleeping pills, a media report said. Satbir Arora picked up the girl on February 20, dressed in her school uniform, after she booked his taxi to go from her home in Oxfordshire to Gloucester train station, the Metro.co.uk reported. But waiting for the girl was 24-year-old Sam Hewings, who planned to abduct her after she was dropped off. He had already discussed kidnapping, sedating and raping a victim on online forums, the report said. When no one arrived to meet the girl, the taxi driver asked her for more information but when pressed she declined to say more, it said. Mr Arora tried to ascertain whether the girl's parents knew where she was, while phoning the man she said she was meeting - making recordings of all of the calls. Mr Arora called his wife - with whom he runs the taxi service - and discussed his concerns with her, before passing the phone to the girl. The girl eventually confided in Mr Arora that her parents did not know where she was, it said. He then called the police, while also alerted a nearby police officer.

Nope SA seems quite 'dead'. But the quality of non-discussion like Gurbani and Itihaas much higher

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10304919/Female-paedophile-62-sexually-abused-seven-year-old-boy-webcam-loaned-pervert.html British female pedophile, 62, who sexually abused seven-year-old boy on webcam and loaned him to a pervert who flew from Canada to the UK is jailed for more than six years Astrid Hilton sexually abused boy on webcam for pleasure of online predators Horrific abuse included paedophile flying to UK from Canada to molest victim She escaped justice for 16 years, but was finally reported to police last year Hilton was jailed for six years and eight months at Northampton Crown Court By JAMIE PHILLIPS FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 16:35, 13 December 2021 | UPDATED: 07:57, 14 December 2021 719shares A woman who preyed on a seven-year-old boy and abused him on a webcam for the pleasure of online paedophiles has been jailed. Astrid Hilton, 62, subjected the child to almost a year of abuse and even loaned him to a paedophile who flew to the UK from Canada to molest him. She escaped justice for 16 years before the boy, now in his 20s, courageously reported her to police.

There's a difference even away from India/Punjab from what I see between the rural and urban Punjabis/Sikhs in even second or third generations. Might be down to greater education ->better jobs -> kids have 'better' jobs/way of living. The ones from pinds are the ones who are 99% in the gangs and white collar crimes. They're also the ones who will lead protests for Sikh rights and fight the Police and other wrong uns if needed.

What you mean ?

Would be massive if there was a Singhni who has the presence that Bhai Jagraj Singh ji from Basics of Sikhi had

https://www.thewhitepunjabibride.com/post/2019/08/09/my-big-fat-punjabi-sikh-wedding-story-parneet-harvinder My Big Fat Punjabi Sikh Wedding Story: Parneet & Harvinder Updated: Jan 8 In this series I will share with you stories of other's, who like myself, have married into the Punjabi Culture and celebrated their own Big Fat Punjabi-Sikh Wedding. Though firstly there is some confusion around the difference between a Sikh and Punjabi Wedding merely because many weddings happen to predominately be Punjabi-Sikh Weddings. Therefore to clarify, Punjab is a state of India in which many different faiths exist not only that of Sikhism. Which means not every Punjabi Wedding will necessarily be of the Sikh Faith, celebrating the same wedding traditions. Sikhism is a religion that originated in the state of Punjab. So whilst majority of Punjabi's are Sikh's, not every Punjabi will be. Hence why many weddings will be Punjabi-Sikh Weddings given they both are of the Sikh Faith and were born a Punjabi. Though even a Punjabi-Sikh Wedding can be referred to as either just a Sikh Wedding or Punjabi Wedding. Even so, the rituals and traditions of a Punjabi-Sikh Wedding can vary greatly between regions and family. Therefore even the most common traditions can differ in how they are celebrated and is usually a personal preference as to which traditions are participated in. Though for the most part many are quite similar. My Big Fat Punjabi-Sikh Wedding Story Parneet & Harvinder Introduce Yourself Hi my name is Parneet, I converted to Sikhism many years ago and have since been known as Parneet. However I am French by birth and have been living and breathing the Indian Culture for more than 15 years. I met my husband seven years ago when I moved from Paris, France to Brussels, Belgium. We both were bhangra performers for the same performance company and for more than a year we were just friends. I decided to one day help him look for a partner in life so we started to spend a lot more time together talking about what he was after in a partner. Eventually we were talking at least 5 times a day and 3-4 hours on the phone. Then one morning after many months, I received a message saying; "I love you my friend". I began to think all day about the meaning behind his message and then I realised that I didn't want to be without him and needed to see him everyday. I never answered his message clearly though a few days later it was his birthday. I decided to surprise him with a big box of his favourite sweet, Jalebi, and that later became our first date. We lived together for 4 years before we married and built our own French-Indian world. It's been a total of 7 years now that we have been together and are constantly working on our relationship. Maiyan Ceremony What Traditional Pre-Wedding Ceremonies Did You Celebrate? We married in 2018, three days before our marriage we celebrated our Maiyan Ceremony which is also referred to as Vatna or Haldi Ceremony. We held one Maiyan in the morning and one at sunset. Unfortunately my family didn't make it to India for our wedding celebrations because my parent's never travel and are afraid to do so. Though one of my husband's Aunty's took on a maternal role which made it so emotional for me. More guests arrived the next day when the ladies sangeet celebrations commenced, which was the second night before our marriage. We then finished with a small Jaago celebration dancing and singing around the village the night before. The Couple’s Lavaan Describe Your Wedding Day Our wedding day was very simple, after we wed during Anand Karaj, we just had a small gathering at home with close friends & family. All the village attended our Anand Karaj, it was so emotional. I am a simple woman and don't like heavily decorated and embellished clothing or jewels. Therefore I opted for a simple silk Punjabi Suit that is worn for any occasion, paired with a turban. I have been wearing turban's since I converted to Sikhism ten years ago. We didn't incorporate any western traditions as we already celebrated a western wedding in Belgium a year ago. At The Temple With Friends & Family Any Advice For Those In An Interracial Relationship Who Are Planning Their Own Big Fat Punjabi-Sikh Wedding? If you are going to marry in India just know that it can be challenging, particularly for those who aren't familiar at all with the Indian Culture. However you can prepare yourself by researching on YouTube and watching videos of Punjabi Wedding's; ask your partner to explain the customs involved; connect with other Indian women in your community. Although you may not understand the customs and traditions involved try to participate as much as you can even though it can be challenging. As these traditions hold a deep meaning to your in laws and by participating it will capture the heart of your future family. Albeit there are an array of different faiths, a blessing holds one single meaning across each faith. So try not to focus too much on why they do a particular ritual, instead focus on how much it means to your in laws and see their looks of appreciation in their eyes. Jaago Celebrations Connect With Parneet Wedding Celebrations

I never 'chatted ' to him, but know you have on SA forums

If Sikhs were 'targetted' in the media like Muslims have been , do you think this would create greater sense of identity ?

Why not ask Roop Dhillon to post here ?