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He is influenced by 3HO teaching on kundalini yoga and attributes it to Sikhi. Its like the earlier people in this world known as hindus who worship the ling of shiva. They felt an out of body experience having intercourse and they made mandirs depicting sex. Till this day they worship the tingling feeling on top of the head.

Kira outright told a member to shut up. His knowledge on Sikhi and ability to interpret shabads are very questionable. Example not understanding who Sri Guru Nanak dev ji is and how he is Vaheguru. This forum needs mods who stand on Gurmat and are not concerned with popularity. Example: Kira told another to shut up and no public formal warning was given. Double standard still has not stopped.

This is good news. Many won't like it because they are attached to Bhai Balbir singh. The Jathedars took the right action and I hope they don't let Bhai Balbir Singh off without admitting gis mistake and receiving his punishment, which should match the wrong act.

Sarbat Da Bhalla is what Sikhs say in Ardas, this includes Badal. Sarbat da Bhalla doesn't mean to wish well for those with body illnesses. It means to wish well for the sickness of the mind which Badal has. Badals sickness of the mind is to kill others, rob others families, businesses and religions, commit genocides against Sikhs, take Sikh family integrity away by getting his lower officials to rape young Sikh women. Supply drugs to the youth of Punjab and destroying their lives. This is Badals sickness of the mind. Many kirtani jathas and kathavachaks are bought. Harjinder Singh is well known to be bought before this video came out in the public. Harjinder Singh knowing the sickness of Badals acts still says Badal is a good person in the video. By no standard will a simple, rational man say Badal is a good man.

Does not Gurmat cover this topic? Let me remind you of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Hukams. Maharaj says to study the works of others, but only keep faith in Akal Purakh. Let's address what, keeping faith in Akal Purakh means. The idea you provide is a theory, constructed by a fake master of the soul. It may work for some time and for others it will be a failure before they even step foot in the world. Keeping faith in Akal Purakh is following the instructions of the Guru and not doubting if the teaching will work. As soon as doubt enters the mind, you will fall victim to kaam, krodh, lobh, moh, and ankhar. Doubt in Akal Purakh means you have no more faith in Akal Purakh. The mind starts wandering and the 3 gunas take over like a river rushing down at a piece of tree branch in the rivers path. The Gurus teaching is only going to get a person across to the other side. No Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jew, Jain, Budhist, or any other way can carry anyone across. They have theories only. The Guru talks to everyone in the world, regardless of their background, if they are willing to listen to his teachings through Gurbani. I will act like a test rat and tell you, your suggested 3 step vision did not work for me. The Guru is the only one who saves a person from kaam. Sri Anand Sahib says, come Sikhs of the Guru and listen to the wisdom of the Guru. Nowhere else will you find peace, go and ask the spiritually wise about this. Guru Sahib's teaching fits all minor or major problems of kaam. Tomorrow an atheist or agnostic can try this suggested 3 step vision and they will surely fail because they don't have the only ingredient to solve the kaam problem. They don't have faith in Akal Purakh. No yogi, buddhist, hermit or anyone else has subdued kaam. All failed because they believed in themselves to beat kaam, instead of putting faith in Akal Purakh. The path of the Guru (Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji) is simple, but many make it complicated because they lose faith. They might have 90% or 99.9999% of faith in Akal Purakh, but they don't have 100% faith in Akal Purakh. Faith in Akal Purakh doesn't mean to read Gurbani and afterwards watch Game of Thrones that shows nude and sexual intercourse scenes or go to places which sell kaam (bars and clubs). You can vision the ugliest person in the world or thing in the world and kaam will surely be their to drag the mind and body to the gates of hell.

The current generations who are 18 to 35 years old will be no better than the last generation. They are actually worse because they don't understand Gurbani in Gurmukhi. They rely on English translations and their interpretation of Gurbani is corrupted by secular views. When their secular views cannot understand Sikhi teachings, they classify the teaching as traditional and discarded it because they don't want to waste prestigious hours out in bars and clubs understanding Sikhi. The amount of teachers left, who teach Sikhi are decreasing by the day. In today's time we only have a handful left. Today the Sikh community are dominated by the uneducated Sikhs like Panthpreet Singh, Sarbjit SIngh Dhunda, Inderjit Singh Ghaggha, Dr. IJ Singh, Guruka Singh, Hari Singh Randhawa, Satnaam Singh Pipli Wale etc, certain heads of Nanaksar dera. Majority of the Sikh population hold similar shallow views resembling these individuals views. There is no depth to their views and no clear answer to the questions they are trying to answer. The uneducated are teaching the uneducated. :stupidme: :stupidme: Learned teachers in Gurbani are a rare jewel these days.

I have pointed out twice that dtf has multiple accounts he uses actively. He started off with uklondon99. This account got blocked and he opens up singhsabha1699, singhsukhamehtabsingh2015, and dtf. He even admitted using all three but mods don't care. Same old excuse we are too busy doing nothing.

Do you know the actions of Harijot Singh? Did anyone from the organizers have the strength of Sikhi to ask Harjijot Singh, why he continues to defend the acts of 3HO who constantly attack and distort Sikhi? And why invite a person from 3HO, who bow down to Yogi Bhajan as their true Guru? If you didn't have the strength. Did anyone of you have the strength to tell Bhagat Jaswant Singh ji of what Harijot Singh and his cult do? He would have picked the appropriate time and made sure Harijot Singh of Sikhnet was given a talk. The deliberate and calculated moves made by Sikhnet against Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji are disgusting. Do yourself a favor and don't let Yogi Bhajan disciples speak at Sikh events. Next time you invite Bhagat Jaswant Singh ji, tell him you are inviting those who twist Gurbani to favor mundras and body postures (Kundalini Yoga) as guest to speak at your camps. If you guys are smart, tell Bhagat ji yourself of your mistakes before he finds out some other way.

Only a few try to bring a community together. Clearly IJ singh and Guruka Singh failed in this task. Truth always brings people together. Like a alcoholic is addicted to the rush of getting a bigger buzz. Guruka singh and IJ Singh continue to split Sikhs apart to get a rush from arguments and favoring the morally corrupt concepts. Sikhi is to dull for them; they need to add their own spicies to it.

If this guy can tell us how many souls exist in all 5 khands we should be looking to back him up. Recently a certain group with shallow views on Sikhi have been trying to prove their points on this site. This is the issue with missionaries. They never had the intent to learn from Gurbani and only looked to Gurbani because they know others take Gurbani as authority and they can get others to follow their views. Sincere and honest individuals look to Gurbani and come up with the best answer from Gurbani to provide a response to such foolish assumptions about reincarnation. Simply ask, has this man gone in the afterlife to see all the souls residing there? Missionaries don't believe in the afterlife, so they will never ask critical questions to send this man packing. I have no investment in reincarnation. Yet missionaries do by holding views against it and passing them off as Guru Sahib's views. Gurbani is clear reincarnation exist and if anyone can't accept it. Too bad for them. Sincere followers will sit with Gurbani for hours and hours with the same shabad and different shabads by looking at every angle possible and not be satisfied until a concrete answer is provided by Guru Sahib. But no one has the time for this anymore and they bring up excuses by labeling Sikhi as a householder religion and its practical. What they mean by this is, any average person views on what religion is; is what Sikhi teaches. This excuse is good as a student saying to a teacher, my dog ate my homework. If such people were in positions of power to create laws. Those who take the time to think critically would be sent to jail for providing an indepth view. Japji sahib says only Vaheguru knows the expansion of his creation. So how can anyone count souls? I barely went 8 angs into Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and there is already substantial evidence to discredit foolish theories on reincarnation. I pray Vaheguru gives Sikhs the strength to have patience and be content with Gurbani to understand what the Guru is saying.

Do you make a living playing a sport? There are plenty of ways to secure the kirpan on the hip. Cops chase, wrestle, try to control, and arrest individuals with a firearm, baton, mag pouch, handcuffs, spray, and a 5 pound radio on there hip. Not to mention the taser secured around their thigh. Including the vest it all weighs 20lbs on the body and restricts movement with the belt. Does this put things into perspective.

This guy makes up Sikhi as he goes. First it was anyone who bows before Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a Sikh and now this. This behavior is a sign of wanting to leave Sikhi. No one is going stop this person from leaving. He can create his own rules in his new religion regarding marriage and how people become his disciples.

How can a illiterate man steal something he doesn't understand. Muhammad would have trusted someone to read the koran for him. Without this there is no way he would have stole the Koran. Muhammad would have too put complete faith in the Koran without even knowing what is written in it. Would he be this wreckles before his master plan to start a violent and oppressive religion? This idea seems far fetched and not very well thoughtout before presenting it. Since most of the world hate Islam. People will accept it without really thinking about it.

Did Sant Jarnail Singh ji know at the time how bhai balbir singh bowed to a fake Guru and accepted him as his Guru? Sant ji praised Sant Longowal but later sant longowal was the biggest traitor of the Khalsa Panth. Sant ji accepted Akali Dal as fellow Sikhs working for the cause, before he found out they were traitors of thr Panth and Sant ji publicly revealed his disgust for the Akali Dal leaders. Same case with masands. First praisedfor their service and later punished for their disservice to the Khalsa Panth.

Who are you to say, which Bani is authentic in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji? You hold no credentials. if put to the task you will reject certain parts of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji because your mind is directly drawn to strong kaamic language used to illustrate a point. It's laughable you present a link to a site, which distort Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. No way will they accept Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji. Here is a link to a women who has read all of Sri Charitropakhiyan and given her view. She didn't only search for lustful words like the uncles at Singh Sabha Canada website. http://patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=347:charitropakhyan-and-i-a-woman-by-sanjam-kaur&catid=34:english&Itemid=63

I wasn't going to write in this topic, but I am being dragged into this discussion because a gupt poster is using the same username as mine and one member has chosen to throw dirt at me. I believe this member shouldn't suppress his anger toward me and openly address what I write. In my view, you shouldn't suppress it or do it. I don't know, how old you are, but the level of maturity sure does help with solving this problem. First thing you should do is read/listen Gurbani with the time to understand and submit to what is being said. If you are just reading for the fact of getting it done. Stop reading right here because everything else would be a waste of time. Gurbani is our base. It's the foundation which makes us stand before the biggest army and not even flinch. Today the army conquering your mind is kaam. Read Chandi di Vaar and see how the Chandi (sword) destroys it's enemy. Smashing the heads of the enemy, cutting them to pieces, and making them run for their lives. Apply Gurbani to your problem. Also listen to the Katha of Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh ji. His ability to explain and assertive speech brings a Sikh to his knees. Next find yourself a fitness center and/or martial art gym and build a regular routine. Kaam energy can come out as kaam and you feel like a worthless human being afterwards or it can be transformed and help you in life. Thirdly, forget all about marriage. Many Singhs screw up when they convince themselves, I am only looking for a marriage partner and 99% of them fall into the trap of Kaam. Once you have a better grasp of kaam, you will have a better grasp of how to handle the marriage partner issue. Right now you are not stable to even think about marriage. And if your a teen or young adult and thinking about talking to girls as just friends, don't because you are fooling yourself and no one else. With this deep of a kaam problem, there is only one thing on your mind. Fourth change your sangat. This doesn't mean you avoid others, but the people you spend time with the most are not going to be gossiping about who slept with who, who is going out with who, which bibi/singh did what. If you have to avoid people altogether for couple of days to sit with Gurbani and build a strong relationship with the Guru, do it. Other things which can be a problem is tv, movies, etc if you are watching the wrong stuff and hoping to catch it on the television. The type of food you eat and when you eat also plays into it, but it's minor aspect to the kaam problem compared to everything else.

http://www.sikhnet.com/news/mixed-marriages-our-gurduaras When reading this article written by I.J. Singh and Guruka Singh, i was not sure if it was about who can enter the Gurdwara and what the Catholics have done around marriage issues in the past or mixed marriages being allowed in the Gurdwara. The title of the article is “Mix Marraiges in our Gurdwaras”, but only a very small portion of the article gives a patronizing view of those who view mixed marriages in Gurdwaras as wrong. Instead they are shaming and pointing the finger to allow others into the Gurdwara. I believe they should have decided on titling this article, “Two Senior Citizens Rambling”. When they finally start to talk about the issue the reasons for barring mixed marriages at the Gurdwara are being mocked by the two writers; I.J. Singh and Guruka Singh. The actual reasons why the Guru, Sri Akal Takht Sahib, Sikhs, and Sikh groups are barring mixed marriages in the Gurdwara are not even mentioned in the article. However let’s address the rambling they committed to in the article about allowing others into the Gurdwara. They mention Sri Harmandir Sahib has four doors, which signifies all people regardless of background are allowed into the Gurdwara. I fully agree with these two here. Yet they forget to mention, maybe unintentionally, regardless which door you come into the Gurdwara, you will only hear the teachings of one Guru; Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Whether you enter from the south or east or west or north all four doors lead to the one teacher. This one teacher is giving all people who enter the same teaching regardless of which faith they profess to be part of or what views they hold as agnostics or atheist. The teachings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji don’t change from any direction, time or person. They continue to ramble and bring up the point, Sikhs can’t define who is a Sikh, but the Guru does. True enough and we have history dictating how a person was defined as a Sikh and Gurbani very clearly describes who is a Sikh. Sri Akal Takht Sahib has also done a great job of taking the teachings from Gurbani and defining who is a Sikh. Yet according to these two, we should ignore all this and on the basis of Sri Harmandir Sahib having four doors, allow anyone to have an anand Karaj!!! They also go to the extent of saying we, Sikhs, don’t know who is a Sikh and they give an example of a Sikh woman marrying an agnostic. I don’t know if old age as taken the toll on both of them, but yeah we do know who is a Sikh. Their example says the man marrying the Sikh woman was an agnostic, which means he was not a Sikh and an agnostic. The simple question of whether the couple are both Sikh is asked before an Anand Karaj is done? What a simple solution to finding out who is a Sikh and defining if it is a mixed marriage. And if one of the two is not a Sikh, then they can’t have an Anand Karaj. Now let’s get down to the patronizing reasons they gave for not allowing mixed marriages in the Gurdwara. Reason #1: Perhaps they come from a fear of dilution of the faith Sorry but reason 1 doesn’t apply to Sikhi for barring mixed marriages in the Gurdwara. Reason #2: or possibly to create an insular barrier to “outsiders Nope, again wrong religion. This is Sikhi not Catholic or Islam. Reason #3: Or perhaps they are rooted in an attempt to ensure a successful marriage? Nope, doesn’t apply to Sikhi and Sikhs, who are barring mixed marriages from taking place at the Gurdwara. I.J. Singh in the past was known to using his secular credentials as a doctor in Chemistry (I believe it was Chemistry) as his credential to be a doctor of Sikhi. Every article he wrote his views on Sikhi were started off by Dr. I.J. Singh. If you don’t believe me, do a simple search online and this deception will come aware to you. I mention this here because, I see Dr. I.J. Singh has made some progress in not writing Dr. in front of his name today, when he writes his views on Sikhi. So I applaud him for not deceiving others with the title of Dr. I.J. Singh anymore. Although it took some time to get him to change from his deception. It is a step forward in the right direction. Coming to the Gurdwara is no sign of any person accepting Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as their Guru. Sikh history tells us even spy’s have come to the open Gurdwara of the Gurus and still do to this date. So this level of participation at the Gurdwara can’t be assigned as to allow the Anand Karaj for the person. The level of commitment for Anand Karaj is higher than simply coming to the Gurdwara. Gurbani read in the Anand Karaj defines the level of commitment and guides the couple on how to behave after they are married. The first level of commitment is to accept Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as your Guru. Which also implies a person cannot accept anyone else as their Guru or religious/spiritual guide in life. For instance a person who claims to be Christian or agnostic has chosen not to accept Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as their religious/spiritual guide. The Christian has accepted Jesus (the Bible) and the latter has accepted no one. In both cases they have not accepted the level of commitment to be Sikhs. Therefore, both are disqualified from having an Anand Karaj. If I.J. Singh and Guruka Singh were more honest in their article there could have been progress in this debate and more people would be able to see what it means to be a Sikh. Many could have benefited from this discussion and their article, if they were honest and didn’t ramble about other unrelated topics. I guess positive change comes hard for I.J. Singh and Guruka Singh. Let’s hope in the future they are honest with their approach.

Gutka Sahib's have Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Bani next to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Bani. Those who read, listen, contemplate, and apply both Banis to their lives are correctly bowing to Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji and Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Listen carefully to Satguru Sri Guru Raam Das ji and see with your eyes how he bows to Sri Guru Gobind Sahib ji Bani: siqgur kI bwxI siq srUpu hY gurbwxI bxIAY ] sathigur kee baanee sath saroop hai gurabaaneebaneeai || The Word of the True Guru's Bani is the embodiment of Truth; through Gurbani, one becomes perfect. ang 304 Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Raam Das ji, who made it picture clear for the Sikhs of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji.

Singho, I have sat in these type of meetings more than I ever wanted too and I believe its my responsibility to tell Sikhs of the UK, the Sikh Council UK is not being honest and forthright. What we need to understand is, the highlighted activities at the Gurdwaras have a lot of weight on certain popular figures in the Sikh Panth in the UK. Currently the protest have been giving a bad name to these certain figures and the Sikh Council UK is doing damage control. Most likely politicians are going to start forcing police officers to make arrest and carry out charges against those who are involved in the protest. Most likely Sikh Council UK was approached by a government politician to stop the protest "fear mongers" and like good sheep, Sikh Council UK gave in. Additionally, this distance Sikh Council Uk from any further protest that will occur. Sikh Council UK will be in the politically correct and point the fingers at the Sikhs, who they encouraged to keep protesting as the rotten apples. This six months ban on protest is put in place to stop the protest altogether. Additionally, this six month ban will cause a rift between the Sikhs, who are protesting. Some Sikhs (those who don't see the deceiving plan of Sikh Council UK) will agree with Sikh Council UK and have infighting between those, who see the real agenda here. In these Six months Sikh Council UK is hoping to cause enough divide, which can't be repaired. This divide will give them the opportunity to label the few still protesting as bad characters and majority of the Sikhs will not care if they get arrested for protesting. Sikh Council UK is using divide and conquer tactic on the Sikh Youth. Darshan Ragi as Sri Akal Takht Sahib Jathedar also destroyed the Khalistan movement in this way. Only difference Darshan Ragi was bought out by the Indian government. These old men only use Sikh Youth to the point they don't need them anymore. The most shocking point and which gives their true agenda away is this one: These protest and this Sikh Council has been trying to address the Anand Karaj issue for the past couple of years and only NOW did they decide we need to develop education processes, procedures and resources? They have not even started developing resources to implement. During the summer it's not so cold in the UK that these old men need to keep their hands in their pant pockets all day. Sikh Youth of UK need to counter these old men and publicly ask these old men, why they have not even started to develop resources to educate the Gurdwaras and couples?

Singh Sabha Sikhs were the ones who kicked out moorti puja from the parkarma of Sri Harmandir Sahib, Sri Amritsar. If I were to use DTF rationale (kick out non Sikhs now from anand karaj and they will go to marry in churches, mandirs, etc), Singh Sabha Sikhs actually kicked out future Sikhs and no longer will these Hindus be thinking about coming to Sikhi. Instead they will go to churches, mosques, and mandirs for puja/namaz/prayer. Why didn't the Singh Sabha Sikhs educate these Hindus and pandits on moorti puja? Look at how many future Sikhs these fanatical Singh Sabha Sikhs kicked to the curb. The pandit could have become future parcharkacks for the Khalsa Panth. Instead Singh Sabha Sikhs with their extremist views kicked them out. :stupidme: :stupidme: :stupidme: DTF/singhsabha1699/Sukhasinghmehtab2015 or whatever other usernames he is using actively, is spewing out anti dharma views, better known as missionary gossip. Today the anti-dharma cults want Anand Karaj amended to allow non Sikhs to be married in the Gurdwara and tomorrow they will want to increase numbers by giving Amrit to non Sikhs. Singh Sabha Lehar highlighted Sikh principles like Anand Karaj for only Sikhs and no moorti puja allowed in Sikhi. The pandits refused to take their moortis out of Sri Harmandir Sahib and the Singh Sabha Lehar aggressively put them out in the streets. The same is taking place today when it comes to Anand Karaj. Those couples who refuse to obey to the rules of the Anand Karaj are being protested against told to leave the Gurdwara in shame. Education is for only those who want to listen and apply it. It`s not for those who praise Singh Sabha for kicking out moorti puja out of Sri Harmandir Sahib and with the same tongue slander those who today are fighting against the same resistance on the Anand Karaj.

Here is the link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTO6abQFs14

You can know any martial art out there. If you can't beat a boxer your martial art skills are useless. 99% of the time any fight that breaks out is a fist fight. Your opponent on the street is not looking to tap you out, but only to knock your teeth out. Even an inexperienced boxer can use the basics one, two punch to knock an experienced martial artist out. Experienced martial artist all say the boxer is deadly and has the upper hand in many cases. I have been search for awhile, videos on how to counter the boxer and I found this good video, which breaks it down. Enjoy and practice.

Am I surprised to be sworn at by personality lovers of Bhai Balbir Singh for presenting a break down of events surrounding the incident; not at all!!!! This is another case of shock (grief), starting with denial (Am i really the only one who seems to think this is all too fishy?), anger (You guys need to calm the fook down.), bargaining (Out of formality he shows respect to the man but nothing more.), depression ( will come soon), and lastly acceptance, but with twisted reasoning. The Sikh sangat saw this same process when Darshan Ragi was caught on video insulting Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji; Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji's Bani. Those who loved the character could never fathom Darshan Ragi saying such words to the Bani of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji and about Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji. The sangat to this date have denied it and those who accepted his insults toward Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji, rationalized it in their minds. Though there is a difference in both cases. Darshan Ragi flat out denied saying anything wrong against Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji and in this new incident with Bhai Balbir Singh ji, we have him admitting it, it was him in the video. People are attached to personalities and this is nothing new. Happens in every religion, social club, industry and was the case from the beginning of time. Anyone that stood up against Darshan Ragi was slandered by his sangat and "cursed" by their revengeful God. The same attitude has begun in this incident involving Bhai Balbir Singh; let the nindaks do Bhai Sahib's slander. Although I wouldn't put Darshan Ragi and Bhai Balbir Singh in the same category because Darshan Ragi clearly created a hostile environment between brothers to cover his own wrong actions. I hope Bhai Balbir Singh doesn't take the same course of action and goes down the humility path, which so many Sikhs love and respect him for doing in the past three or so decades. One poster said, Bhai Balbir Singh apologized for his wrong actions. This false, Bhai Balbir Singh only apologized for hurting the feelings of anyone disturbed by the video. Attach your forehead to the feet of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and you will not regret bowing down before the true Guru. Everyone else can and most likely will make mistakes. Their personality, views, thoughts, and actions change with karma written on their foreheads. Only Gurbani and Guru Sahib is worthy of bowing before.

Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh ji does not even use the word gatka in the above writing. Stop putting words into Sant ji's mouth.

The video, which brought Bhai Balbir Singh's act to light, starts off by Bhai Balbir Singh sitting at the feet of Ashutosh Jha. In an instance he folds his hands before Ashutosh and bows his head before Ashutosh. In the response video, Bhai Balbir Singh ji is seen reading a script prepared either by himself or by someone else to provide an explanation for going to Ashutosh. Yet Bhai Balbir Singh ji never explains why he is treating Ashutosh as holy man in his response video. In his response video, he admits its him in the video by saying, I was taken by some sangat who loved by kirtan to meet a Sant. Bhai Balbir Singh is very careful to not say anything not written on the script. At the end Bhai Balbir Singh, does not apology for his actions, but apologizes for hurting the feelings of sangat, who may have been hurt by the original video. I have to stress the point, Bhai Balbir Singh ji never explains why he is sitting in the feet of a person he doesn't even know. Its very hard to believe Bhai Balbir Singh ji did not know, who Ashutosh was and only heard of Ashutosh today; after 5 years. Bhai Balbir Singh says in his response video, he met Ashutosh five years ago, which would make it 2010 give or take a year. Back in July of 2006, Ashutosh supporters stopped traffic at the Bhandari Bridge, Amritsar for nearly 5 hours. In August of 2007, The Khalsa Action Committee developed a plan to make Sikhs aware of Ashutosh misbehaviours in Sirsa. Khalsa Action Committee was joined by major Nihang Dals to take on this seva. Back in August 2002, the then Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, Ranjit Singh ji, made it very clear for Sikhs to break all ties with Ashutosh and his followers. This was directed after a violent clash had taken place in 2000 involving the Ashutosh followers. Further, Shaheed Bhai Darshan Singh ji was shot dead in a peaceful protest by the police during a protest in Ludhiana, Punjab back in December of 2009. The news of this murder by the police and the reasons for the protest were wide spread in the Sikh communities around the world. The list of the events to where Bhai Balbir Singh ji would have heard of Ashutosh is long and I can't possibly list all of them here. Any reasonable person or Sikh would say Bhai Balbir Singh would have heard of Ashutosh at the time he committed his wrong acts. But let's say for some impossible reason, Bhai Balbir Singh ji did not know of Ashutosh and was never told of how and why Shaheed Bhai Darshan Singh ji gave his life for Sikhi Bhai Balbir Singh ji would have put a lot of faith in the sangat, who took him to Ashutosh because he didn't even ask who this sant was before Bhai Balbir Singh was sitting in the feet of, folding his hands and bowing his head before, receiving Ashutosh blessing in the form of two apples, and then getting up to bow down to the sant (ashutosh). I mean, any reasonable Sikh would ask the name of the person he is bowing before. Who was this sangat that Bhai Balbir Singh put blind faith in and walked into Ashutosh dera and bowed down too, without asking any questions?