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True but the Hindu Mahants + British introduced it as a way of fooling Sikhs to think that Nishan Sahib = a shiv ling. True but the Hindu Mahants + British introduced it as a way of fooling Sikhs into thinking the Nishan Sahib pole is a shiv ling. Obviously all the Sanatan Sant Samaj Samparda's support this idea like Nirmala's, Udasi's, DDT + Nangs. Bhai Randir Singh Ji said it was pure bahmanwaad. A lot of Sanatani's denied it on this thread + got peeps like panthicunity put into QC so Jagsaw+Cisco be careful. http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/70465-washing-darbar-sahib-floor-with-milk-is-equal-to-shivjis-singh-sabha-canada/page-3?hl=washing Guru Sahib even would not allow gold on Darbar Sahib as it was only Maharajah Ranjit Singh that did it as Guru Sahib would want the gold melted off to feed the poor. But the Sanatan Samparda's that are in bed with Badal to rape Punjab called the Sant Samaj all encourage all this milk nonsense to copy shiv lingams. ਕਨਿਕ ਮੰਦਰ ਪਾਟ ਸੇਜ ਸਖੀ ਮੋਹਿ ਨਾਹਿ ਇਨ ਸਿਉ ਤਾਤ ॥੧॥ kanik mandar paat sayj sakhee mohi naahi in si-o taat. ||1|| Mansions of gold, and beds of silk sheets - O sisters, I have no love for these. ||1|| ਮੁਕਤ ਲਾਲ ਅਨਿਕ ਭੋਗ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਮ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਾਤ ॥ mukat laal anik bhog bin naam naanak haat. Pearls, jewels and countless pleasures, O Nanak, are useless and destructive without the Naam, the Name of the Lord. AND ਲੋਹਾ ਕੰਚਨੁ ਸਮ ਕਰਿ ਜਾਨਹਿ ਤੇ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਭਗਵਾਨਾ ॥੧॥ lohaa kanchan sam kar jaaneh tay moorat bhagvaanaa. ||1|| who look alike upon iron and gold - they are the very image of the Lord God. ||1||

But Jonny+Hammertime why are all the kaffirs making such a fuss about pedophilia? Since Prophet Muhammad, the most perfect human being that ever lived (according to the Quran) was an open unashamed pedophile why can't this Pakistani dude copy him? Prophet Muhammad: A Pedophile Muhammad “married” Aisha when she was six years old. ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Muslim 8. 3310 Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64 Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’ Bukhari 7. 62. 65 Narrated ‘Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and sexually consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 88 Arab year is lunar, which is shorter than solar year. In solar years, Aisha was 8 years 9 months old when Muhammad consummated his marriage with her. Consummate? This is a nice way to say raped her. According to Muslims, a woman must consent to her marriage or the marriage is null. How can a 6-years old child consent to her marriage? Without a consent, how can we call this relationship between a 51 years old man and a 6-years old child marriage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCz9MXmcsw Mohammed Khubaib guilty of sex offences on girls 13 April 2015 From the section Cambridgeshire Mohammed Khubaib has been found guilty of grooming girls in Peterborough A married restaurant owner with a "persistent and almost predatory interest" in girls has been found guilty of rape and grooming offences. The conviction of Peterborough businessman Mohammed Khubaib, 43, is the latest in Cambridgeshire Police's Operation Erle. Khubaib forced a 14-year-old girl to perform a sex act on him and committed nine counts of trafficking. Following the guilty verdict at the Old Bailey, he will be sentenced on 15 May. Khubaib's friend Manase Motaung, 32, was cleared of related offences by the jury. Judge Peter Rook QC told Khubaib: "You have been convicted of a very serious offence of a rape on a young girl... having plied her with vodka. "You have also been convicted of no less than nine trafficking offences in relation to under-age girls who you were deliberately plying with vodka so that you could take advantage of them, knowing they craved vodka so you could exploit them sexually. Khubaib's conviction brings the total number of people to be convicted under Operation Erle to 10, of which most are of Pakistani origin. Khubaib was caught as part of Operation Erle, which investigated sex offences against girls in the Peterborough area. The court heard that Khubaib's activities in Peterborough involved girls being befriended and then "hooked" with alcohol - normally vodka - in an attempt to make them "compliant" to sexual advances. Khubaib, who lived in the city with his wife and children, would pursue his interest "away from his home and family", using his restaurant as a "focal point". Mark Dennis QC, prosecuting, said the girls were vulnerable because of their age, background, circumstances or unsettled schooling and Khubaib pretended to be their "friend and helper". Khubaib, who also ran a lettings agency, would drive girls to flats in his 4x4 car and, once there, they would be groomed for sex by being "plied with alcohol and entertained by himself and his friends". He raped the 14-year-old girl in August 2007 by forcing her to perform oral sex on him after she was given alcohol and then "rewarded" with £5, the court heard. His conviction brings the total number of people to be convicted under Operation Erle to 10, of which most are of Pakistani origin. Four previous cases led to nine male defendants being jailed for 59 offences against 15 girls, from Peterborough, with a couple from Lincolnshire and Rutland.

So if there are 100 Sikh women and 100 Sikh men out there and some of the women don't marry Sikhs (say about 5 out the 100) then after 95 Sikh couples marry, do u expect the other 5 Sikh guys to sit on there lonesome forever? Of course the heck not! Only peeps like u Preeet that believe in the Hindu caste system want Sikhs to think like that. If they married women from a Muslim background, those women would obviously become Sikh on the marriage and would be freed from the sexual exploitation, sexual discrimination and sexual slavery in Islam to be given the freedom and gender equality that Sikhi provides.

naah bro sadly Patna Sahib and Hazur Sahib have always unfortunately stayed in Hindu control for the last 200 years. even after the British Empire + Hindu Mahants were kicked out of Punjab's Gurdwara's in the 1920's the RSS still ran Patna + Nanded + continue to do havan + aarti + Sri Chand puja like Taksal do + they don't accept Sikh Maryada The peeps in control of Patna + Nanded always supported Khemu Bedi because he was funded by the British to set up the Sodhak Committe + they all spoke badly about Sardar Kartar Singh Jhabbar + the Babbar Akali Jatha's

Ok no problem bro

^ Eduardo bro, what language did your family speak in India (which state was it)? Portuguese or Hindi or another language? And how long ago did your family convert to Christianity?

Indian Dalits find no refuge from caste in Christianity By Swaminathan NatarajanBBC Tamil 14 September 2010 From the section South Asia Till death do us part: Dalits are buried on the other side of the wall in this cemetery Many in India have embraced Christianity to escape the age-old caste oppression of the Hindu social order, but Christianity itself in some places is finding it difficult to shrug off the worst of caste discrimination. In the town of Trichy, situated in the heart of the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu, a wall built across the Catholic cemetery clearly illustrates how caste-based prejudice persists. Those who converted to Christianity from the formerly "untouchable" Hindu caste groups known as Dalits are allocated space for burial on one side of the wall, while upper-caste converts are buried on the other side. The separating wall was built over six decades ago. Caste discrimination is rampant in the Catholic Church Father Yesumariyan, Jesuit lawyer, Dalit campaigner "This violates the Indian constitution. It is inhuman. It's humiliating," says Rajendiran, secretary general of Periyar Dravidar Kazhagam, a small socio-political group that has announced a protest demanding the removal of the wall. The Catholic Church in India says it does not approve of caste discrimination. But it says it is helpless in resolving this issue. "The burial ground is owned by private individuals, so we are not able to do anything about this. Even the local bishop is not going to the cemetery to perform rituals," says Father Vincent Chinnadurai, chairman of the Tamil Nadu state Commission for Minorities. He says there is a new cemetery in the town, where bodies are buried without any discrimination. Yet burials continue to take place in the controversial cemetery, presided over by Catholic priests. For centuries Hindus from different castes have been cremated or buried in different places, according to their caste. 'Cementing caste'This practice is fading in the big cities and towns, but in some places in rural Tamil Nadu, caste-based graveyards are still in operation. Discrimination against Dalits persists in all strata of Indian society Dalit Christians are demanding more proactive steps from the Church to remove the wall. Father Lourdunathan Yesumariyan, a Jesuit, practising lawyer and Dalit-Christian activist, says the Church has the legal power to remove the wall. Even though the cemetery is on privately owned land, he says, a recent high court judgement ruled that the Church has full responsibility as it administers the graveyard. "The failure to remove the wall only helps cement caste feelings," he adds. Some years ago two Catholic priests demolished a small part of the wall. But the influential land-owning upper-caste Christian group rebuilt it. The Church is meanwhile accused by critics of refusing to give "just representation" for Dalits in its power structure, even while it campaigns for a separate quota for the Dalit Christians in government jobs. Fr Yesumariyan says: "In Tamil Nadu, over 70% of Catholics are Dalit converts. But only four out of 18 bishops are from the Dalit-Christian community. "In many places influential caste groups have lobbied and made sure that only the person belonging to their caste is being appointed as bishop in their diocese." He says that in places where Dalit Christians are the majority, they often struggle to get the top job. Even though the archbishop of Tamil Nadu region is a Dalit Christian, he has been unable to improve the situation much for other members of his community in the Church. Untouchablity 'everywhere'In recent years a fixed number of jobs and seats have been earmarked in Catholic-run schools and colleges for members of the Dalit-Christian community. There are estimated to be more than 17 million Catholics in India But this is being challenged in the court on the grounds that "there is no caste in Christianity". Fr Yesumariyan continues: "The Indian constitution says it has abolished untouchablity. But it is everywhere. In the same way, the Catholic Church says there is no caste bias but caste discrimination is rampant in the Church. "There are hardly any inter-caste marriages among converted Christians. Until recently, Church-run magazines carried matrimonial advertisements containing specific caste references. Only after our protest they stopped it." A few churches in Tamil Nadu have even been closed after Dalit Christians demanded a share in the administration. "We say there is no caste in Christianity," says Fr Chinnadurai. "But in India, Christianity was not able to get rid of caste. "Those who converted to Christianity brought their caste prejudices with them" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LAHORE, PAKISTAN: Sabir Arif, a student of finance and cost management in one of Lahore’s private institutions lives in a hut made of wood, cloth and plastic sheets. His only source of income is the private tuitions he provides to others to keep his makeshift home intact. The son of a daily wager, Sabir is not a typical victim of abject poverty in the city. Reminiscing about how he read Russian literature when he came across old story books while picking garbage in class seven, Sabir says his great challenge in life has been his caste – that he was born a Deendar Changar – Pakistan’s version of the ‘untouchables’. Contrary to popular belief, caste in Pakistan has been a means of systematic discrimination. The lower castes here are Pakistan’s downtrodden, including Massalis, Choorahs who are majority Christian and Chamars or Changars who are also called Deendars if they practice Islam. In Punjab and Sindh these include the scheduled Hindu castes that serve as farm workers and bonded laborers. Sabir admits that he faces greater discrimination than most of his “biradari” because he refused to stick to what is the generally acceptable position and career path of his caste. Living in the slums, and being considered lowest of the low in a society fixated on high and low birth, Sabir was always at the periphery, but his decision to pursue education did not sit well with the local community. Muhammad Arif, his father who gets labor jobs with the help of his donkey cart, says he struggled with the decision of sending his children to school, “People of our biradari said that education was not for our people, that I should make Sabir help me with daily work, but I decided against it and have not sent my younger children to work as live-in domestic helpers like others in our community or forced them into working only.” Discouraged, discriminated against and lacking any political identity, the city is now Sabir’s home, as it is easier for people of lower castes to access schooling and get odd jobs in urban hubs as compared to rural settings, where discrimination is far higher. Abdul Rasheed Dholka, a political activist of Mazdoor Kissan Party in Sargodha has worked with lower caste farm workers, and says that in rare cases when young men from these communities are hired as peons or clerks, they try to cut off ties with their community and hide identity to avoid discrimination. “Decades of oppression have led to circumstances where these people don’t even know how to stand up for their rights, because there is no representation,” he adds. Dholka’s words reflect in Sabir’s thoughts, as the young man says he sometimes feels “like the Africans in South Africa or the Jews in Nazi Germany”. However, despite the twin challenges of poverty and his birth into the bottom of the social rung, Sabir manages to remain hopeful, and talks of changing the country into a better home someday. Haris Gazdar, Director and Senior Researcher, Collective for Social Science Research in his paper “Class, Caste or Race: Veils over Social Oppression in Pakistan” argues that caste based marginalization is common in Pakistan. “The trouble is that the biradaris and quoms are not all equal, and public silencing of the issue is very much about perpetuating existing hierarchies. The inequality is so severe and deeply embedded in parts of the country that it is hardly even noticed.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpYSiYH-86c

Prophet Muhammad: An open Pedophile Prophet Muhammad at the age of 51 “married” Aisha when she was six years old. 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Muslim 8. 3310 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Bukhari 7. 62. 65 Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 88 Arab year is lunar, which is shorter than solar year. In solar years, Aisha was 8 years 9 months old when Muhammad sexually consummated his marriage with her. Consummate? This is a nice way to say raped her. According to Muslims, a woman must consent to her marriage or the marriage is null. How can a 6-years old child consent to her marriage? Without a consent, how can we call this relationship between a 51 years old man and a 6-years old child marriage? Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is not true. The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Bukhari 7.62.18 Even though Abu Bakr was fool enough to let Prophet Muhammad have sex with his little daughter, that marriage was invaled, because the only person who should have given consent was a minor. Aisha was unaware of what was going on and was surprised when Prophet Muhammad pulled down his pants and invited her to sit on his lap. She Narrated: When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon. Bukhari 7. 62. 90 Aisha was playing with dolls like any other 8 year old child would do. She was not ready for marriage and had no understanding of it. Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151 Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Bukhari 5.234 Having sexual feelings for small children is called pedophilia. According to Ayatollah Montazeri, the most revered Shiite cleric of Iran , the “marriage” of Muhammad and Aisha was a political maneuver to placate the enemies of Islam. He wrote: The reason for this marriage was that the Prophet was under the intense pressure by his enemies like Abu Lahab and Abu Jahl and was completely dependant of the protection of other tribes. Abu Bakr had a lot of tribal influence. And rejecting his offer, in those conditions, for the Prophet was not prudent. In reality this marriage was symbolic and not to satisfy his sexual instinct, because, as a rule a 53-year-old man cannot have sexual feelings for a 9-year-old girl. This is nonsense. Abu Bakr was already a devout follower of Muhammad and his confidant. Abu Lahab and Abul Hakam (whom Muhammad derogatorily called Abu Jahl, father of ignorance) had nothing to do with Abu Bakr. How can having sex with a child placate one's enemies? Assuming this ridiculous excuse is true, what about Aisha? Was she only a pawn for Muhammad’s political maneuvers? In one thing the Grand Ayatollah is right. As a rule a 53-year-old man cannot have sexual feelings for a 9-year-old girl, unless he is a pedophile. The Islamocritic scholar, Abul Kasem, has demonstrated that in Islam there is actually no age limit for marrying a child. He found the following hadith which shows a Muslim man can marry an infant. However should one of his adult wives suckle that infant both wives become haram to him. Case of one of two wives suckling the other-If a man marry an infant and an adult and the latter should give milk to the former, both wives become prohibited with respect to that man [their husband], because if they were to continue united in marriage to him, it would imply the propriety of joint cohabitation with the foster-mother and her foster-daughter, which is prohibited, in the same manner as joint cohabitation with a natural mother and daughter-It is to be observed on this occasion, that if the husband should not have had carnal connexion with the adult wife, she is not entitled to any dower whatever, because the separation has proceeded from her, before consummation :-but the infant has a claim to her half dower. [Hedaya Vol. I Book III, page 71 (Ref. 6)] Abul Kasem also quoted the story of Umar marrying a child just four or five years old. Umme Kulthum was 4 or 5 years old when Umar married her. This child was his most favourite wife (just like prophet Mohammad). There is a great controversy about the identity of this child bride of Umar. Many scholars claim that she was the daughter of Ali and Fatima. Others say that Umme Kulthum was the posthumous daughter of Abu Bakar and Habiba. Abu Bakar died (13 A.H.) a few months before Umme Kulthum was born. She was the half sister of Aisha. So, Umar asked Aisha for the hand of Umme Kulthum when she (Umme Kulthum) was only 4 - 5 years old. Aisha agreed and Umar and Umme Kulthum got married. According to Abul Kasem’s calculations, Umar was 56 years old when he married this little girl. Why would he not wait for Umme Kulthum to reach the age of nine? Shouldn’t Umar follow the sunna (example) of his prophet? The answer is that Prophet Muhammad did not set any limits for child marriage. Ummar must have remembered when Prophet Muhammad expressed his desire to marry a crawling baby before death overtook him. This story is reported by Ibn Ishac, the most authentic biographer of Muhammad. Most other biographies are based on this monumental work of Ibn Ishak/Ibn Hisham (Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. Abdu’l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubaba….(Ref.3, page 311) < Back to Sina's Challenge

Maybe Qwe123 as a Pakistani Muslim yourself u can explain this to me, is why Pakistani's do so much grooming? Is it simply because the Prophet Muhammad at age 54 had pedophile sex with a small 9 year old girl called Aisha? Raymond Ibrahim: Rationalizing Pedophilia in Islam July 29, 2011 11:26 am By Raymond Ibrahim Earlier this month we saw””or rather, were once again reminded””that Islam permits pedophilia in the guise of “marriage”: Top Saudi cleric, Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, issued a fatwa asserting that there is no minimum age for girls to marry, “even if they are in the cradle,” and that the only criterion is that “they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men.” While this practice speaks for itself, it is interesting to witness the great lengths some Muslims go to justify or rationalize it””or even to turn it into a source of pride. Consider, for example, this Muslim cleric discussing Muhammad’s marriage to the child Aisha when she was nine. Far from blushing for shame, the cleric actually uses this anecdote to boast of the prophet’s “patience” and “magnanimity.” Translation of relevant excerpt follows: Aisha’s own account in Sahih Bukhari is telling enough: she talks about how her mother hurriedly prepared her and then “handed” her over to Muhammad, and how “nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah’s Apostle to me in the forenoon.” The story of the prophet’s marriage to Aisha reveals to us aspects like the prophet’s conduct with Aisha, and more importantly the aspect regarding the relationship between the husband and wife, to show how one should treat his wife, just as the prophet did with Aisha. We know that Asia’s mother went to take her down from the swing that she was playing on to fix her hair and prepare her for the prophet so he could enter her [have sex with her]””and she did that all on the same day. The cleric continues: It should be noted that the cleric recounted the above with much awe and amazement””as if to say, “Look how indulgent and open-minded our prophet was!” So you see, she was playing with her fellow playmates even though her day of consummation was that very same day””and all that they did was to fix her up for the prophet so he could have sex with her. Now what do we see when the prophet married Aisha? Did he go to her and say “Okay that’s it, you’re married, you’re now a grown up, you”re supposed to be mature, you need to do this and that; you need to forget about your toys and your little friends; you are now a wife of a man, you have to see to my needs” and that’s it? No. The prophet allowed her to continue playing with her toy dolls””indeed, the prophet even sometimes gave her such things to play with. [This hadith has more details, including how Aisha’s little girl friends would “hide themselves” whenever the prophet came to her until he called them out.] In fact, such was the cleric’s whole point: to show that Islam, according to the example of Muhammad, expects older Muslim husbands to be patient with their younger wives: “The older husband should not expect the younger wife to be at his level of maturity; rather, he should go down to her level, for he is capable, whereas she is not.” As “gentlemanly” as this ostensibly sounds, it is yet another example of how Muslim scholars deal with Muhammad’s lifestyle: because they cannot condemn or ignore his practices, they inevitably go to great lengths to rationalize or justify them””to find the good in every situation their prophet was involved in, while being oblivious to all the bad. Thus here we have a cleric straining to find a positive aspect to Muhammad’s pedophilia””that he was patient and indulgent of his child-bride””while ignoring the heart of it: that the man Islam is built around desired to have sex with a child in the first place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCz9MXmcsw Raymond Ibrahim, an Islam specialist, is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum. He writes regularly for Jihad Watch.

The truly blessed Sufi Saints were non-Muslims so can't be used as a basis for similarity. True Sufi's believe in 1God but reject all the pedophilia, rape, slave trading + terrorism done by Prophet Muhammad. Compare Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji with the Quran: Following are the 10 most evil teachings in history that surprisingly are divine teachings of Islamic God Allah. Obviously, Islam's Allah was not the God whom the pre-Islamic Arabs used to worship as their Moon God, but was the alter-ego of Muhammad. Every word of the Quran was Muhammad's own, which he put on the tongue of his imaginary friend Allah (AKA Muhammad). Islam is out and out fraudulent. (For detailed explanation of each teaching go to islamreform.net) Most evil teaching # 1: Islam's paradise of evil, demented, depraved sexual perversity Verse 9:111 Quran – Muslim's passport to paradise "Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph." Islam teaches that if Muslims slay or are slain (kill or are killed) in the service of God, i.e. Jihad, they are guaranteed accession to Allah's paradise of depraved sexual perversity. Islam's Paradise is filled with whorish virgins possessing voluptuous breasts and lustrous eyes. Muslims, blessed with an access to Paradise, will have 72 such virgins to engage in incessant copulation. Furthermore, a Muslim's surest way of getting a passport to Paradise, says Allah, is to get slain while trying to kill the kafirs. The Quran is no more a holy book than Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler are holy books. Indeed, the Quran is worse in that it incites unrestrained murder of infidels. Most evil teaching # 2: Kill the infidels wherever you find them Quran 9:5 (the infamous verse of the sword inciting mass murder): "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." Verse 9:5 teaches Muslims to commit mass-murder. The kafirs must either convert to Islam, who would keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate (zakat), or be murdered. Command for unconditional slaying of humans, God's own creations, by other humans – when presented as a sacred teaching of the almighty Creator – becomes a most evil teaching. Needless to say, such teachings never came from God. Most evil teaching # 3: Extortion verse: Quran 9:29: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low." Here, Allah the Islamic God commands Muslims to attack and kill the so-called 'people of the book' (i.e. Jews and Christians), until they are defeated and submitted to the supremacy of Islam and, in willing humiliation, pay jizya (submission) tax to Muslims. Like verse 9:5, 9:29 is a call to mass murder and extermination. Only Hitler had openly instructed his followers to exterminate the Jews so completely. When such a teaching is presented as a teaching of the Creator of the Universe, it becomes extremely evil. Most evil teaching # 4: Verse of barbaric cruelty Quran 5:32-33 In order to portray Islam as a wonderful religion, Muslim taqiyah tacticians, including President Obama, will always quote the verse 5:32, which says, "We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind." Verse 5:32 is a teaching of mass extermination and genocide. When President Barrack Obama gave his speech in Cairo, he quoted from Verse 5.32 "whosoever killeth a human being, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind." Isn't this a wonderful teaching from a wonderful God worthy of quotation by the President? Wait a moment while I grab my handkerchief and clear the tears from my eyes. It is just such a beautiful teaching. "whosoever killeth a human being, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind." Only a true God could create such a teaching of love. Could provide such guidance for mankind. A divine, timeless teaching worthy of a divine, timeless God. But wait a moment. The President did not quote Verse 5:32 correctly. He left out a most important part of the teaching. God has created in his infinite wisdom two exceptions to his teaching." whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind," We can killeth a human being for manslaughter and corruption in the earth and it will not be the killing of all mankind. And what does the exception "corruption in the land" mean. All human beings who do not convert to Islam have declared war on Islam and Allah, are a danger to Allah, and therefore have created corruption in the land and must be murdered. All Apostates of Islam by rejecting Islam are creating corruption in the land. Muslim women who demand equality with men are creating corruption in the land. All Muslim girls who refuse to obey their fathers by adopting Western culture are creating corruption in the land. And on and on. President Obama quoted Verse 5:32 in his Cairo speech as a symbol of the wonderful, wonder of Islam. The President quoted a teaching that justifies the mass murder of 305,000,000 Americans who are non-Muslim. This is a teaching of madness masquerading as a teaching of love. And how are the kafirs to be murdered for making "corruption in the land." Read the following Verse 5:33 Verse 5:33 says: "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;" Teachings as contained in this verse – "they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land" – are cruel and barbaric in nature. When those teachings are presented as God's, it becomes extremely evil, no better than those Hitler had committed. Most evil teaching # 5: Allah's teaching of pedophilia Quran 65:4: "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed divorce period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him." The most important duty of any species is the care and protection of its young. The prime duty of mankind is to raise children in a safe and caring environment, so they can progress into responsible adults. There is no worse crime than the sexual abuse and exploitation of children. But verse 65:4 clearly approves marriages and sexual copulation with pre-pubescent little girls, who haven't started menstruating yet. And Muhammad at the age of 50 duly complied with this sanction of Allah by marrying his niece Aisha, only 6 years old. This is an extremely evil teaching. The Quran is clearly written by a pedophile monster. Most evil teaching # 6: Sanctioning unrestrained slavery and rape for Muhammad by his Allah Quran Verse 33.50 says: "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those [slaves] whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her – specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful". The term "possessions of the right hand" mean slaves. It is expressly stated that Muhammad's slaves, which he attained as a share of the captives in raiding infidels communities, were actually given to him by Allah Himself. And Allah also makes raping them halal for Muhammad (and his Muslim followers). The verse also gives a special privilege to Muhammad to marry as many wives as he desires, beyond the restriction of four wives for ordinary Muslims. When God's teachings encourage a people to wage wars to capture the women for raping as well as encourages His holy prophet to engage in unrestrained marriage for sexual gratification, there can't be a teaching as evil as this in such matters. Most evil teaching # 7: Sanction of wife beating Quran 4:34: "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great." A Muslim woman is the property of her husband. A Muslim husband has the legal right and religious obligation to beat a wife if she disobeys him, is disloyal to him or simply does not please him. The concept of wife abuse does not exist in Islam. There is no concept of martial rape. A Muslim woman cannot refuse sex with her husband. According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons: Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce. These are evil affronts to the idea of equality and dignity of women – very evil teachings, indeed. She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (i.e. "let's herself go") She refuses to meet his sexual demands She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason" She neglects her religious duties Most evil teaching # 8: Allah gives 20% of all robbery and kidnapping profits to Prophet Muhammad Quran 8:41: "And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah, - and to the Messenger, and to near relatives" This verse was revealed about how the booty captured in wars – such as after attacking and mass-slaughtering the Jews of Banu Quraiza – would be distributed. And most horribly the Islamic Allah Himself claims a share of the booty along with His prophet. God is the Creator of everything in the Universe. When that God encourages some people to attack and mass-murder others, so He Himself can take a share from the wealth captured from those murder people – no evil can get higher than this. Most evil teaching # 9: Barbarity Quran 24:2 says: "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, -- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment." This verse says that Muslims must not have mercy on people, who commit adultery or fornication, and punish them brutally with 100 lashes in public. However, since other verses in the Quran specifically allow men to have sex slaves, the horrible crime of serial rape against a non-Muslim woman is not considered adultery or fornication and would not be punished as the woman would be considered God-given sexual slave concubine. What kind of person could flog a woman 100 times for having sex with the man she loves? On the other hand, Islamic God, evil as He is, allows men to force sex upon their unwilling wives (verse 4:34). Undoubtedly the God of Islam is out and out barbaric to sanction evil teachings such as these. Most evil teaching # 10: Teachings of torture, enslavement, beheading cruelty, eye-for-eye ….. There is a gigantic tie for the tenth most evil teaching. There are 3,990 teachings of the Quran that are equally evil. All these teachings are immoral depravity. Not being words/teachings of Moral Perfection - the Quran is not Moral Perfection and therefore not from God, therefore Allah is not God but the AntiGod and Muhammad is no prophet. Following is a very small sample of further Quranic depravity. TORTURE Quran 22:19-22: "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" "for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods" SLAVERY Quran 2.178: "O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement." You kill one of my slaves, females or free man and I'll kill one of your slaves, females or free man. BARBARIC CRUELTY Quran 5:38: "Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done-a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise." 39 "But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful." EYE FOR EYE Quran 5:45: "And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed such as wrong-doers." BEHEADING Quran 8.12: "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." There are 75 teachings of beheading in Quran. SLAUGHTERING Quran-8:67: "It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (Allah insisting Prophet to kill all the prisoners, and should not keep any surrendered prisoners alive until He (Prophet) occupied entire Arabia.)

Respect bro but check this thread + look how many Hindu Pakhandi supporter types think pix of our Guru's are cool http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/70341-say-no-to-gurus-pictures/page-1

Yes my profile pic does describe me! It's a troll face and i stick like bad breath to those frauds who wanna attack Sikhi Awesome find bro! U totally nailed these haters to the wall! So StarStriker totally proved u wrong + now all u have done is switch your lie to saying they frequently done it just to hide your pathetic little Hindu desire to marry within your own caste according to the Hindu+Muslim caste system. It was people like u who repeated the popular anti-Sikh lie that Sant Ji was a terrorist. Just because enough bogus books and lots of people who hate Sikhi repeat the same old lies doesn't make those fake allegations become true. Research is now showing that our Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji ki Mahal was of Jatt ancestry, Guru Ram Das Ji was not of Khatri ancestry, nor were Trehan and Bhalla originally thought of as Khatri clans and Mata Gujjar Kaur were of Gujjar ancestry, so your whole Mughal and Hindutva lie that all our Guru Sahib and marriages were frequently with so-called Khatri's comes totally crashing apart. Basicly just because Guru Nanak Dev Ji were undeniably of Khatri ancestry, anti-Sikh writers who feared the united casteless Sikh Panth deliberately described the following Guru Sahibaan and Guru Ki Mahal as being of the same ancestry when there was no factual reality behind that deliberate anti-Sikh lie.

This exposes u as a Hindu infiltraitor. And since when did Patel become a high caste that u can call Sikhs "low caste"? Don't repeat Mughal lies against Guru Sahib in order to justify marrying some Jatti your parents choose for u Again u repeat the same lie + no Guru Sahib didn't discriminate on the basis of caste by picking a Brahmin for a job! How dare you!? It's obvious u are a Hindu but u deliberately use a picture of Nihangs to try + fool us. But with the lies u have said against Guru Sahib i see exactly who u are + your agenda on this forum. You should use Ajit Poohla the Nang as your avatar! Nang Ajit Poohla Informant of the Police During the government of Barnala in Punjab, Poohla was hired as a 'Cat' under the command of S.S.P. Muhammad Izhaar Alam and was provided with weapons and security guards. Some of his duties were to harass and terrorize the families of Sikh freedom fighters, challenge the Sikh fighters through the newspapers to fight his group and take over the historic Gurdwaras. The government intended to take over the historic Gurdwaras through Poohla and use them against the Sikh movement. With the support of the government, Poohla became so corrupt and a characterless person that no woman ever dared to leave her house. To challenge the Sikh fighters, Poohla with the help of Jeevan Umranangal started a new political party called “Jagat Akali Dal” which was named after Lala Jagat Narayan. Lala Jagat Narayan was a fundamentalist Arya Samaji Hindu who spewed poison against the Sikhs in his newspaper for which he was killed later. Umranangal’s son Sukhdev was killed by Sikh fighters. After his death, Umranangal’s second son, Paramraj was hired as an S.P. of Criminal branch by Ribiero. Through Paramraj, Poohla became friend with many of the corrupt police officers and by using their help, Phoola collected large sum of money from many rich families and shared his wealth with them. Not only did he commit adultery with eunuchs, he was know for putting his hands on every woman or girl he came into contact with. Swaranjit Singh decided to part company with him, but he soon found out that leaving Poohla’s gang was the same as calling on death. It is a tradition that Nihungs have to ask their leader before leaving them. Nihung Thaan Singh, the son of Bhai Kapoor Singh, wanted to leave Poohla’s group and asked for permission. When Poohla was asked for permission, Poohla replied: “Ya! He wants to leave, send him to the future.” So Thaan Singh was beaten up and then burned alive at dera Jhootha in Kartarpur. The same thing happened to one of his companions named Savinder Singh. He also wanted to leave Poohla. Savinder Singh, also called Thattha Fauji, was from a village named Reaali Bhangali. A hymn singer named Gurdial Singh was also killed as he was handed over to police officer Paramraj Umranangal. Links of Poohla and Nangs to Punjab Police Swaranjit Singh and other witnesses state that police officers Paramraj Umranangal, Sumaid Saini, Ajit Sandhu, Jasminder and some other police officers frequently visited Poohla and they all drank liquor together. Many times police officers asked Poohla to give them some people so they could kill them to show police encounters. Sometimes Poohla sent people from his own gang and other times he sent people from other states to the police officers. People come from other states come to Punjab to earn a living. Poohla did this so his police officers friends could get higher ranks and then provide support to Poohla in return. For these favors, Poohla received weapons, tractors, automobiles, jeeps, etc. from police officers. These items were usually the property of innocent people who were killed in fake encounters or were the property of soldiers who died fighting for freedom for the Sikh nation. Poohla even received Nishan Sahibs, which were raised in memory of Sikhs who died for Khalistan, from police officers. Poohla usually sold these items to others. Any illegal drugs that were seized were sent to Poohla in government vehicles. Rapes by the Nang Poohla A woman named Amriko from Amarkoat who was a well known friend of Poohla supplied girls to him. Poohla killed many people for her, so she could take over lands of people by force. Poohla used his buddy police officers to get her an honorable award from the Indian government. According to Swaranjit Singh, Poohla would also get familiar with the wives of people in his gang. No one spoke against him in fear. At the start, Poohla had a hobby of having sexual intercourse with older women but then his tast in women turned to young girls. It was atrocious when this monster criminal grabbed a 7 year old daughter of a nihung who had come to his dera. The girl’s mother was dead. Poohla took her to the basement in his complex in village Poohla and raped her all night. The little girl died screaming and crying in pain. When her father tried to save the honour of his daughter, he was beaten up and barely managed to escape with his own life. The girl’s dead body was cut into small pieces and thrown into the river Beas near Sri Hargobindpur. Everyone who Poohla killed was usually cut into pieces and thrown into this river. When he reached the river, he would cut the body into small pieces, and then Poohla threw each piece into the river himself. In the end, he held the head from the hair and threw it hard into the river while saying: “Come on friend, now you've become feed for fish. Then while drugged, he told his drugged up friends, “Don’t catch fish from that area for two to three days, the food which we just fed the fish, let them digest it first, we will eat them after.” The tactics Poohla used to torture others were also monstrous. A person was laid belly down and one of Poohla’s gang members was told to sit on the hip. Then the feet of the victim were lifted up. Poohla beat up the victim until his feet were swollen with soreness. There was also a member of Poohla’s gang named Hassan. He was also known as trap. He was a native of village Bhumboeee. He tied a person’s both hands together at the wrists facing downward. Then he slowly rotated the arms to bring the hands toward the head. The person being tortured cried out loud in pain but no one from the Indian justice system heard the pains. Dayal Singh, son of Mahil Singh, from the same Bhumboeee village had a mare (female horse) that danced. Wassan told Poohla about this horse. Poohla asked for the mare but the poor man had his daily living from the mare. He told Poohla that the mare belongs to his brother. Hearing this, Poohla decided to teach Dayal Singh a lesson. One day Dayal Singh went to sell his wheat crop to the market and from there Wassan fooled him and took him to Poohla. Poohla and Amriko ordered him to be laid down for not giving the mare. Poohla’s thugs started hitting the poor man with the backs of their guns to show their loyalty towards Poohla. He was beaten and repeatedly asked if he was going to give the mare. Dayal Singh kept on saying that the horse belonged to his brother. Getting hit with the guns, his head was now open and Poohla then ordered Wassan to play his trap. Unable to take all the torture, Dayal Singh died on the spot. Dayal Singh’s dead body was also thrown into the river. Poohla and Amriko ordered this torture and were directly responsible for Dayal’s death. Sometimes Poohla repeatedly hit people in the head with the heels of his boots and made their heads bleed.

^ Daily Mail bro i think u are confusing the title of this thread and mentioned by the OP. Ramgarhia don't have a 12th Guru or do they? But I hear u on that fake Hindu Vishwakarma nonsense! Jagsaw and tari support the Hindu caste system as there folks told them they could only marry a Jatti as there wife.

According to this anonymous dude's logic it means that the Prophet Muhammad must be in Hell given the Prophet's evil lifestyle. Ali Sina's Challenge www.faithfreedom.org I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies. If you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically. Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay $500,000 U.S. dollars to anyone who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being: a narcissist a misogynist a rapist a pedophile a lecher a torturer a mass murderer a cult leader an assassin a terrorist a looter I have debated with many Muslims. Their defense of Islam can be summarized in two categories: Denial of the authenticity of Islamic sources that report the stories of crimes of Muhammad (example: debate with Edip Yukssel, a leader of the Submitters) Moral relativism and situational ethics, e.g., “In those days, pedophilia, assassination, rape, raid, pillage, massacre and lying, were common practices, so Muhammad is innocent because he did what everyone else was doing.” Muslims even go as far as to question the legitimacy of the Golden Rule to claim I do not have any basis to condemn Muhammad. In other words, who can say what is good and what is evil? That is up to the messenger of God to decide. (Example: debate with Yamin Zakaria) These are the main two arguments that Muslims present in defense of Islam. Any rational person can see they are logical fallacies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVWksqo-u-8 These charges are irrefutable. You simply can't disprove them because they are reported in Islamic sources and as such they are as good as confession. You can't acquit a criminal after he has confessed, unless you plead insanity, which is my point. Muhammad: A Pedophile Muhammad “married” Aisha when she was six years old. 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Muslim 8. 3310 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Bukhari 7. 62. 65 Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 88 Arab year is lunar, which is shorter than solar year. In solar years, Aisha was 8 years 9 months old when Muhammad consummated his marriage with her. Consummate? This is a nice way to say raped her. According to Muslims, a woman must consent to her marriage or the marriage is null. How can a 6-years old child consent to her marriage? Without a consent, how can we call this relationship between a 51 years old man and a 6-years old child marriage? Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is not true. The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Bukhari 7.62.18 Even though Abu Bakr was fool enough to let Muhammad have sex with his little daughter, that marriage was invaled, because the only person who should have given consent was a minor. Aisha was unaware of what was going on and was surprised when Muhammad pulled down his pants and invited her to sit on his lap. She Narrated: When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon. Bukhari 7. 62. 90 Aisha was playing with dolls like any other 8 year old child would do. She was not ready for marriage and had no understanding of it. Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151 Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Bukhari 5.234 Having sexual feelings for small children is called pedophilia. TheReligionofPeace.com Guide to Understanding Islam What does the Religion of Peace Teach About... Slavery and Sex Slavery Question: Does Islam condone slavery? Does Islamic teaching allow Muslim men to keep women as sex slaves? Summary Answer: Islam neither ignores nor condemns slavery. In fact, a large part of the Sharia is dedicated to the practice. Muslims are encouraged to live in the way of Muhammad, who was a slave owner and trader. He captured slaves in battle. He had sex with his slaves. And he instructed his men to do the same. The Qur'an actually devotes more verses to making sure that Muslim men know they can keep women as sex slaves (4) than it does to telling them to pray five times a day (0). The Qur'an: Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is one of several personal-sounding verses "from Allah" narrated by Muhammad - in this case allowing himself a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Other Muslims are restrained to four wives, but, following the example of their prophet, may also have sex with any number of slaves, as the following verse make clear: Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the slaves) whom their right hands possess..." This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur'an (70:29-30). The Quran is a small book, so if Allah used valuable space to repeat the same point four times, then sex slavery must be very important to him. Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Even sex with married slaves is permissible. Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them." Qur'an (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness. Qur'an (2:178) - "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female." The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans are not created equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man's). Qur'an (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means;) praise be to Allah." Yet another confirmation that the slave is is not equal to the master. In this case it is plain that the slave owes his status to Allah's will. (According to 16:71, the owner should be careful about insulting Allah by bestowing Allah's gifts on slaves - those whom the god of Islam has not favored).

Why do u have Singh in your name when u are so obviously a Hindu with your lies against our Guru Sahib. U support the Hindu caste system so bad so why not just call yourself tariPatel?

The fact that u couldn't even get a job picking berries in some Surrey farm says it all about you Jagsaw. It actually shows that Surrey employers have class. Surrey employers realised u are an apologist for fascists + pedophiles like Prophet Muhammad + Pakistani's. So obviously u had to run back home to England with your tail between your legs. The type of party I support is the NDP. The type of party you support is the Pakistan Muslim League overseas supporters London branch. Politicians like Jasbir Singh Sandhu, Jagmeet Singh and Martin Singh are not racists and not fascists. You are the 1 on Pakistan's payroll supporting pedophile groomers and fascist Pakistan Muslims, not them. http://www.martinsingh.ca/about-martin/ http://www.jagmeetsingh.ca/ http://jasbirsandhu.ndp.ca/about-jasbir-sandhu

^Clever post Jagsaw. Through the power of suggestion you suggest that LuckySingh99 will be a) silly for not agreeing with you b) an extreme right wing fascist supporter for disagreeing with you Your Muslim sponsors in Pakistan have taught you well in the art of taqiyya obviously! Fact is you can't run away from the lies you have invented against Sikhs in this thread.

Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 what the reputation is of 'Surrey' for example. Its reputation, throughout the whole of Canada, is of crime, social problems, drugs etc and remember it is the place in the western world with the highest concentration of Sikhs...i.e the Sikh ghetto. FALSE AS ONLY 20% OF THE POPULATION OF SURREY ARE SIKHS. FALSE AS WHITES ARE THE CAUSE OF MOST SOCIAL PROBLEMS IN SURREY Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 And Canada is a good example of all the complaints you're making on this thread because don't forget, in Canada it is the Sikhs who are the most hated community in the nation. FALSE AS SIKHS ARE NOT THE MOST HATED COMMUNITY IN CANADA, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 It is Sikhs, not muslims, that wider white society blames for the same thing you're blaming muslims in the UK for...i.e lack of integration, failure of multiculturalism, ghettos, drugs, gangs, murder etc. SIKHS ARE NOT BLAMED FOR ALL THESE PROBLEMS BUT SURE THERE ARE SOME NON-SIKHS WHO ARE JATTS WHO TARNISH THE NAME OF THE SIKH COMMUNITY AS THIS SMALL MINORITY OF JATTS IN THE BC BUD TRADE ARE ONLY LOYAL TO JATTISM, JUST LIKE YOURSELF AS A CASTE SYSTEM WORSHIPPER. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Sikhs are the most hated community in the whole of Canada. TOTALLY FALSE STATEMENT AS PROVED EARLIER ON THE THREAD VIA YOUR MACLEANS ARTICLE Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Sikh murders, shootings, home invasions, drugs, gangs have, over the last decade as a whole, been on Columbian levels in terms of violence. LOL. SIKHS ARE HARDWORKING AND DO NOT INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN THE ABOVE. A SMALL MINORITY OF YOUR FELLOW JATTS THAT HAVE NO CONNECTION TO SIKHI MIGHT. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 In contrast, UK Muslims of the same thing have been on the level of a small peaceful country town in Olkaholma. LOL I DON'T REMEMBER 1500 WHITE GIRLS BEING GROOMED, RAPED + PIMPED IN ANY OKLAHOMA TOWN Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Let me tell you something about Surrey for example. In Surrey, there have even been cases of some of our old bajurgs been violently mugged on the streets at nights by our own apnian kurian high on meths and/or heroin. HAHAHA THESE ARE FIGMENTS OF YOUR OWN DRUG FUELLED IMAGINATION. THERE ARE NO STRUNG OUT JATTI'S HIGH ON METH AND HEROIN JACKIN POOR OLD SIKH BAZURGS AS THEY CROSS THE STREET IN SURREY. LOL Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 See that people ? :stupidme: Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 A not very bright and clearly intellectualy vulnerable individual (ghettosikh) sitting thousands of mles away in Canada actually gets his opinions and 'facts' about a foreign nation from bigots. Not being clever enough to decypher the intentions of those who give their version of their 'reality' in the UK, the vulnerable youngster (ghettosikh) reading it from Canada takes it as gospel. :surrender: GHETTOSIKH IS FAR MORE CLUED UP ABOUT THE REALITY OF LIFE IN CANADA THAN YOU WILL EVER BE! Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 Over the internet you've pretended you're someone else (a Sikh...with Sikh values of tolerance and respect) whilst feeding an intellectualy immature youngster in another country (ghettosikh) lies about Muslims in the UK. He, being young an' all, is not able to see how he is being groomed by members and supporters of groups akin to the Ku Klux Klan. THE KKK ARE RACISTS. HAMMERTIME + ME ARE FROM THE SAME RACE AS YOUR BELOVED PAKISTANI'S + WE HATE RACISM. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT GROOMING, ISLAM + THE PAKISTANI OFFSPRING OF MUSLIMS WHO KILLED SIKHS ARE THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE BLATANT+OPEN PEDOPHILIA OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCz9MXmcsw Muhammad: A Pedophile Muhammad “married” Aisha when she was six years old. 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Muslim 8. 3310 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Bukhari 7. 62. 65 Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 88 Arab year is lunar, which is shorter than solar year. In solar years, Aisha was 8 years 9 months old when Muhammad consummated his marriage with her. Consummate? This is a nice way to say raped her. According to Muslims, a woman must consent to her marriage or the marriage is null. How can a 6-years old child consent to her marriage? Without a consent, how can we call this relationship between a 51 years old man and a 6-years old child marriage?

The difference between LuckySingh99 and you Jagsaw is that Lucky Singh is respected as one of the most intelligent best posters on this site by everybody on the forum whereas you fall into the trailer park trash category of this site alongside myself and some other negative nindaks. LuckySingh is a British born Sikh that moved out to Canada who knows much more about Surrey than you do. Perhaps you ought to check a dictionary for the meaning of ghetto? Meanwhile here are some of your pathetic quotes on the subject which got proved false. Like Hammertime said u defend and applaud Muslims, Islam + Pakistan but u never tire of presenting Sikhs badly. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 what the reputation is of 'Surrey' for example. Its reputation, throughout the whole of Canada, is of crime, social problems, drugs etc and remember it is the place in the western world with the highest concentration of Sikhs...i.e the Sikh ghetto. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 And Canada is a good example of all the complaints you're making on this thread because don't forget, in Canada it is the Sikhs who are the most hated community in the nation. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 It is Sikhs, not muslims, that wider white society blames for the same thing you're blaming muslims in the UK for...i.e lack of integration, failure of multiculturalism, ghettos, drugs, gangs, murder etc. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Sikhs are the most hated community in the whole of Canada. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Sikh murders, shootings, home invasions, drugs, gangs have, over the last decade as a whole, been on Columbian levels in terms of violence. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 In contrast, UK Muslims of the same thing have been on the level of a small peaceful country town in Olkaholma. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Let me tell you something about Surrey for example. In Surrey, there have even been cases of some of our old bajurgs been violently mugged on the streets at nights by our own apnian kurian high on meths and/or heroin. Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 See that people ? :stupidme: Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 A not very bright and clearly intellectualy vulnerable individual (ghettosikh) sitting thousands of mles away in Canada actually gets his opinions and 'facts' about a foreign nation from bigots. Not being clever enough to decypher the intentions of those who give their version of their 'reality' in the UK, the vulnerable youngster (ghettosikh) reading it from Canada takes it as gospel. :surrender: Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 Over the internet you've pretended you're someone else (a Sikh...with Sikh values of tolerance and respect) whilst feeding an intellectualy immature youngster in another country (ghettosikh) lies about Muslims in the UK. He, being young an' all, is not able to see how he is being groomed by members and supporters of groups akin to the Ku Klux Klan.

Bro i really hope it's not true as this is too much cuz just when u think somebody is doing good, this kind of bad homosexual re-enactment stuff totally destroys everybody's confidence in some of the kathavachaks out there. :stupidme: The mouth to mouth naam simran has got to be edited as kathavachaks can't be seriously preaching this type of bs. I know Giani Thakur Singh said this before but he was totally exposed so why would any Sikh even repeat this bs.

But bro is it not possible that the bad stuff said was the edited fake part? But the rest of the recording about Simran was genuine and not related to the homosexual stuff?

PEDOPHILES + PAKISTAN SUPPORTER JAGSAW KHAN QUOTES (in blue) Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 what the reputation is of 'Surrey' for example. Its reputation, throughout the whole of Canada, is of crime, social problems, drugs etc and remember it is the place in the western world with the highest concentration of Sikhs...i.e the Sikh ghetto. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 And Canada is a good example of all the complaints you're making on this thread because don't forget, in Canada it is the Sikhs who are the most hated community in the nation. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 It is Sikhs, not muslims, that wider white society blames for the same thing you're blaming muslims in the UK for...i.e lack of integration, failure of multiculturalism, ghettos, drugs, gangs, murder etc. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Sikhs are the most hated community in the whole of Canada. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Sikh murders, shootings, home invasions, drugs, gangs have, over the last decade as a whole, been on Columbian levels in terms of violence. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 In contrast, UK Muslims of the same thing have been on the level of a small peaceful country town in Olkaholma. Jagsaw Said: 22 February 2015 Let me tell you something about Surrey for example. In Surrey, there have even been cases of some of our old bajurgs been violently mugged on the streets at nights by our own apnian kurian high on meths and/or heroin. Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 See that people ? :stupidme: Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 A not very bright and clearly intellectualy vulnerable individual (ghettosikh) sitting thousands of mles away in Canada actually gets his opinions and 'facts' about a foreign nation from bigots. Not being clever enough to decypher the intentions of those who give their version of their 'reality' in the UK, the vulnerable youngster (ghettosikh) reading it from Canada takes it as gospel. :surrender: Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 Over the internet you've pretended you're someone else (a Sikh...with Sikh values of tolerance and respect) whilst feeding an intellectualy immature youngster in another country (ghettosikh) lies about Muslims in the UK. He, being young an' all, is not able to see how he is being groomed by members and supporters of groups akin to the Ku Klux Klan. Therefore, not yet knowing his lefts from his right, he falls for evrything hook line and sinker. Jagsaw Said: 23 February 2015 I'll tell you what, if this was a plan by some of you UK based facists to expose the workings of internet peado grooming than I have to salute you guys for your masterplan. It was brilliant. Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015 There is only one place in London where yu'd have to walk a fair mile before you see a white man and that place is our own 'Sikh' ghetto: Southall. Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015 See this is where you and your friends are going wrong when you're showing photos of suburban houses in Surrey. I said before, you don't define ghetto in terms of old looking and new looking. I mean of course Surrey, where the roads as well as houses were built in the 1970's onwards is going to appear more modern than London where the roads and houses are medieval. But you also have to remember that visually Surrey looks ... new and spacious with large houses. Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015 A 'Ghetto' is where one particular community has concentrated itself in and where no others, such as whites wish to be in. Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015 Surrey is a ghetto Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015 So, as you can see, it is normally we Sikhs aroud the world who live in ghettos, as we tend to concentrate in places that no hipster, artist or yuppie would ever be seen dead in. Jagsaw Said: 24 February 2015 What you didn't understand, or perhaps bother to read, from my last message is that ... the Sikh in Surrey live in a ghetto because they are both places that no one other than we Sikhs wish to live in Ghetto (noun) a section of a city, especially a thickly populated slum area, inhabited predominantly by members of an ethnic or other minority group, often as a result of social or economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships. Slum (noun) a thickly populated, run-down, squalid part of a city, inhabited by poor people. Sorry Jagsaw but all of your above lies have been exposed as false. You make things up as you go along. First u got exposed on claiming that Sikhs are the most hated community in Canada. Then it was Sikhs have made Surrey into a violent underclass ghetto with your Jatti's supposedly high on meth + heroin violently jackin poor old bazurgs as they cross the street. Now all u got left is that ur claiming no hipster wants to live alongside Sikhs. Do we Sikhs even give a damn about that? The answer is NO! And no this post isn't part of a global Muslim pedophile ring to groom ghettosikh in Calgary. The only pedophile that has been exposed on this website is Prophet Muhammad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTeAB4l0KCM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj24Oz1MuCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCz9MXmcsw Muhammad: A Pedophile Muhammad “married” Aisha when she was six years old. 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Muslim 8. 3310 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Bukhari 7. 62. 65 Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 88 Arab year is lunar, which is shorter than solar year. In solar years, Aisha was 8 years 9 months old when Muhammad consummated his marriage with her. Consummate? This is a nice way to say raped her. According to Muslims, a woman must consent to her marriage or the marriage is null. How can a 6-years old child consent to her marriage? Without a consent, how can we call this relationship between a 51 years old man and a 6-years old child marriage? Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is not true. The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Bukhari 7.62.18 Even though Abu Bakr was fool enough to let Muhammad have sex with his little daughter, that marriage was invalid, because the only person who should have given consent was a minor. Aisha was unaware of what was going on and was surprised when Muhammad pulled down his pants and invited her to sit on his lap. She Narrated: When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon. Bukhari 7. 62. 90 Aisha was playing with dolls like any other 8 year old child would do. She was not ready for marriage and had no understanding of it. Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151 Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Bukhari 5.234 Having sexual feelings for small children is called pedophilia. According to Ayatollah Montazeri, the most revered Shiite cleric of Iran , the “marriage” of Muhammad and Aisha was a political maneuver to placate the enemies of Islam. He wrote: The reason for this marriage was that the Prophet was under the intense pressure by his enemies like Abu Lahab and Abu Jahl and was completely dependant of the protection of other tribes. Abu Bakr had a lot of tribal influence. And rejecting his offer, in those conditions, for the Prophet was not prudent. In reality this marriage was symbolic and not to satisfy his sexual instinct, because, as a rule a 53-year-old man cannot have sexual feelings for a 9-year-old girl. This is nonsense. Abu Bakr was already a devout follower of Muhammad and his confidant. Abu Lahab and Abul Hakam (whom Muhammad derogatorily called Abu Jahl, father of ignorance) had nothing to do with Abu Bakr. How can having sex with a child placate one's enemies? Assuming this ridiculous excuse is true, what about Aisha? Was she only a pawn for Muhammad’s political maneuvers? In one thing the Grand Ayatollah is right. As a rule a 53-year-old man cannot have sexual feelings for a 9-year-old girl, unless he is a pedophile. The Islamocritic scholar, Abul Kasem, has demonstrated that in Islam there is actually no age limit for marrying a child. He found the following hadith which shows a Muslim man can marry an infant. However should one of his adult wives suckle that infant both wives become haram to him. Case of one of two wives suckling the other-If a man marry an infant and an adult and the latter should give milk to the former, both wives become prohibited with respect to that man [their husband], because if they were to continue united in marriage to him, it would imply the propriety of joint cohabitation with the foster-mother and her foster-daughter, which is prohibited, in the same manner as joint cohabitation with a natural mother and daughter-It is to be observed on this occasion, that if the husband should not have had carnal connexion with the adult wife, she is not entitled to any dower whatever, because the separation has proceeded from her, before consummation :-but the infant has a claim to her half dower. [Hedaya Vol. I Book III, page 71 (Ref. 6)] Abul Kasem also quoted the story of Umar marrying a child just four or five years old. Umme Kulthum was 4 or 5 years old when Caliph Umar married her. This child was his most favourite wife (just like prophet Mohammad). There is a great controversy about the identity of this child bride of Umar. Many scholars claim that she was the daughter of Ali and Fatima. Others say that Umme Kulthum was the posthumous daughter of Abu Bakar and Habiba. Abu Bakar died (13 A.H.) a few months before Umme Kulthum was born. She was the half sister of Aisha. So, Umar asked Aisha for the hand of Umme Kulthum when she (Umme Kulthum) was only 4 - 5 years old. Aisha agreed and Umar and Umme Kulthum got married. According to Abul Kasem’s calculations, Umar was 56 years old when he married this little girl. Why would he not wait for Umme Kulthum to reach the age of nine? Shouldn’t Umar follow the sunna (example) of his prophet? The answer is that Muhammad did not set any limits for child marriage. Ummar must have remembered when Muhammad expressed his desire to marry a crawling baby before death overtook him. This story is reported by Ibn Ishac, the most authentic biographer of Muhammad. Most other biographies are based on this monumental work of Ibn Ishak/Ibn Hisham (Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. Abdu’l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubaba….(Ref.3, page 311) < Back to Sina's Challenge

Hahaha you do make me laugh with the odd entertaining insult. First we established that Sikhs are not the most hated community in Canada as you wrongly claimed. Then we established that Surrey is not a poor Sikh ghetto with gun toting apnian high on meth robbin bazurgs at random lol ... actually its overtaking Vancouver + has grown 3 times in population size in the last 30 years. Surrey does have pockets of social problems. True there are a minority of white trash, Vietnamese, Muslim gangbangers. And sure there are some Jatt gangbangers that all grew up in 3,000 sq/ft detached houses that have grown up watching Scarface. The vast majority of the Sikhs in Surrey are good hardworking people. 3 of Surrey's four MP's are Sikh out of a parliament of 308 seats in Ottawa. The whole of the UK sadly only has 1 Sikh MP in total. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Grewal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasbir_Sandhu But LuckySingh99 is probably best placed to educate u that Surrey or metro Vancouver is not a poor crime ridden drug infested ghetto. In fact it is the strongest area for Sikhs in the Diaspora. Once the caste subculture can be destroyed and people come back to Sikhi the future is bright. In Surrey Sikhs are 20% of the population and have the influence to match. In London Sikhs are 1%. In Surrey Sikhs massively outnumber Muslims. The Muslim girls in BC are proud to be with Sikh guys and are not afraid to marry Sikhs. London has more than 1million Muslims. Nuff said. Disliking the evil ideology of fascism does not make anybody a racist. I am the same ethnicity as most Pakistani's. The difference between me and you is that I support Sikhi and Sikhs. But you Jagsaw spend your time concentrating on defending pedophiles, groomers, Islam + Pakistan.

That's really good that you are Muslim and are on this site to promote Islam to Sikhs. The reason Sikhs are so proud of Baba Farid Ji (Brahm Farid Sani) is that Baba Farid Ji Maharaj believed 100% only in Gurmat and were totally non-Muslim and against Prophet Muhammad despite the danger of being killed for being an apostate from Islam. Many Sikhs in east Punjab claim descent from Baba Farid Ji just like you claim descent from the Muslim Diwan Badr-ud-Din Sulaiman from the best part of 800 years ago. Most Pakistani's have foreign ancestry I have often heard them say. Even some Pakistani Jatts claim they are descended from Arab Ansari families of Medina.