MisterrSingh

I don't quite see the correlation between his family vaguely knowing the families of martyred Singhs from the 80's. Is that meant to infer some form of extra "Sikhiness" on a person that ultimately dictates their day-to-day conduct? Or was it used as bragging rights to inflate someone's status and impress the easily led?

Same people, more or less. Their success is entirely their own, and nobody begrudges them reaping the rewards of hard work. I suppose they'd be the Punjabi equivalent of what "old money" in the West would refer to as the nouveau riche; old money passes its riches and wealth and titles down from generation to generation, whereas the aforementioned nouveau riche were almost "overnight" successes if we count overnight as one man's lifetime. That's something that causes resentment for some people, and from an old money vs nouveau riche perspective it's very much an issue of breeding and class than purely financial issues, whereby the saying goes, "You can buy a lot with money, but decorum / class is not one of those things."

You've lived a fairly middle-class life by Punjabi Indian standards. It's understandable the urban Indian lifestyle is bound to be affected by external factors such as cultural rub-off from Western culture. I'd argue your experiences are a little more organic and "ahista, ahista" than what transpires in villages in Punjab, where some people barely had running water 15 or 20 years ago, and are now driving Humvees and are using iPhones, lol. As I noted on this forum a few years ago, you can't go from 0-100mph in a societal development / evolutionary sense, and not expect there to be problems. Change and progress -- and most importantly, the psychological capabilities of the human brain in as much as how it functions relates to the world and other people -- takes time to adjust and recalibrate in an individual sense and in the wider communal sense, too. It's the equivalent of giving a child spoonfuls of sugar and then expecting him not to get hyper.

You can continue the misinformation and hoping at least some of the mud sticks, but not everyone on this forum is as thick as you. If you're ploughing ahead with the, "Mistersingh is a coconut sell-out" narrative because I dared to suggest we should be balanced and considered when discussing these issues, then I'm entitled to defend myself by any means necessary. You've been warned you fork-tongued beast, lol. "If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth." Unfortunately for you, most people on this forum can read. I suggest starting with the alphabet. You can get fridge magnets to help, y'know?

I heard a Punjabi dharmac song on the radio a few months ago which was literally begging for the return of Guru Nanak Dev Ji to wrong the rights of Punjabi society, Sikhs, and the world in general. It's just so embarrassing, and actually inadvertently casts doubt on 10th Guru Sahib's bachan regarding the status and role of Guru Granth Sahib Ji for Sikhs. Our Guru Sahibs bequeathed us everything we could never need to make our world the way we want it to be, and yet we still crave to be led and cajoled into action by someone in human form. It's this mentality that allows charlatan spiritual men to take advantage of a foolish population that refuses to take responsibility for even the most basic of matters. It's like, are we so utterly incapable of taking the knowledge that's been given to us, and then applying it to better our lot?

For some, perhaps. I know of a few young Indian guys (younger than 30) who've never been married, etc., but have moved in with divorced white women, a few even have children from earlier relationships. These guys behave as if they've won the lottery. Madness.

And yet Punjabi men rarely object to a divorced white woman, lol. That's some double standard.

They're only as loyal and decent as the times you'll experience. I'll get criticised for saying the following but apne are so cold and unfeeling. I occasionally think most of our people have a lesser developed soul. You can see it in and behind the eyes. It's a dark void at times.

You're a smart guy, so can you explain to me as objectively as you can as to why the Indian intellect labours under such cognitive dissonance, that it resents and derides the Westerner yet simultaneously holds his culture in esteem (whether knowingly or otherwise) and ultimately holds the western mindset in a form of reverence, and perhaps also one day hopes to reside in these lands? If the distaste for their ways was genuine and total, then surely even the merest of associations would be considered unpalatable?

I've always found the Indian "Disney" / Mickey Mouse knock-offs to be simultaneously hilarious and quite unsettling. They're even on steel pandhe, lol!

It takes exceptionally lucid and strong willed individuals -- regardless of spiritual competence - to capitalise on a country on the decline. Do you see any of those capabilities in apne in foreign countries? Atheists espouse self discipline and determination; there's no spirituality involved with them, lol. Ruling the mind is not a quality exclusive to the religiously inclined.

There's a reason they (as in Prime Ministers or Presidents) stop short of an unequivocal, "I'm / We're sorry for what we did," because from a legal perspective it could be seen as an admission of wrongdoing on behalf of the country they represent, and therefore open the door to a legal challenge that might result in a hefty financial settlement running into hundreds of millions or more. It shows a woeful understanding of geo-politics if we're expecting an apology -- which would most likely be directed to India who doesn't really give a poo about Sikhs -- especially when there's an unspoken and implicit agreement between the two countries when trade contracts are awarded that any such untoward and thorny diplomatic issues will be avoided if smooth business, trading, and IMMIGRATION arrangements are to be upheld for the benefit of both nations. Britain is not Canada. Canada, with all due respect, is a weak nation that doesn't have the history or standing on the international stage that Britain had; HAD. Britain is no longer the country it use to be, although it clearly struggles to relinquish any of its old akhar as a result of being a former superpower. That doesn't mean it's going to start asking for forgiveness over historical issues, because let's be honest, if they apologise to us for Jalianwala Bagh, they'll need to start apologising for hundreds of similar acts they meted out on conquered populations throughout their history. It just isn't happening. Let's get India to acknowledge what they did to us only 40 or so years ago. If we win that battle, then the sky's is the limit.

Break ties with the idiots who gave you that advice, lol.

Join me, and together we will rule the... district of Doaba.

A woman made a widow through an unfortunate quirk of fate is the same as a party animal trying to paper over the bad decisions of her past by ensnaring a gullible young Singh; usually without a hint of contrition? Nah, I'm not buying it. That's a false equivalence.

It erodes the soul over time. I don't say this from a religious perspective just a general humanist pov.

Thank you. I was going to post something similar. I rarely have to deal with spastics in real life. It's been a real lesson. I need to go away and lay down for a while. You've fried my circuitry.

Oh my God. You got all that ^^^ from what I said? I was being silly earlier, but you truly are a retard. Do you want a grown-up conversation, or do you want to reveal even more of your stupidity?

Bro, I'm one of the most fair and level headed guys on here. I'm not partial to whites and neither am I against them by virtue of them just being white. I like to see honesty and a little intelligence when discussing certain issues (which is asking a lot on this forum). I can maybe understand if you're under 16 and rooting for the downfall of the white patriarchy, but if someone's 16+ and is unable to utilise foresight and common sense in order to trace the inevitable conclusion of where the subjugation of the white race will lead for those of us who've made their lands our homes, then you're either retarded, an ignoramus, or both.

I'll be your vicholla. The desperation for British citizenship is off the charts over there. You'll be engaged in no time, doesn't matter what you look like. That's great for you!

Brown little cuck. Had any rishte lately, or is your face enough to put an end to things?

This isn't the kind of conversation I'd have on this site, with the kind of parameters established by OP. The situation is way more complex and nuanced than the issues being presented here. OP seems exultant at the thought of finally being able it to stick it to the goreh, when in reality he'd get shittar for taking the pi55. "We" aren't ruling anybody. Work on ruling your own mind before you dream of ruling a country.

The world and its dog will convince you you're wrong to have these doubts; that you should assume the role of spiritual counsellor and guide your previously wayward potential partner onto the path of dignity and righteousness; that it's YOUR fault if things go awry. Don't do it. Listen to me clearly: don't do it. Those few months where you feel you've struck up some form of bond are, ultimately, meaningless. Don't be swayed by the thought, "But what if I never connect with somebody in this way?" You will. Trust me, you will. And I can guarantee you nothing ever "stops at kissing." That's a load of gooh, lmao.

He's unwittingly illustrated the brainwashing and anti-Gurmat activities of these fringe sects.

No, of course he isn't.