dallysingh101

I've seen lots of boys grow up in my family. One thing I can say is that they seriously resent overbearing parents when older (not saying the OP is doing this). But it does seem strange to me that you still ferry your son about despite him being 20. Some guys need to experience the outside world without a chaperone. There is nothing more emasculating than having overbearing parents when you are in adulthood yourself. I've seen this lead to seething resentment, and this what it sounds like your relationship has come to? When it comes to this, the child tries to escape the environment - which is what he seems to be trying to do. Thinking back to all of the ones I've seen grown up. In the end they will do what they want as adults. I think, if a person themself was a conformist, non-adventurous child to their own parents, it is hard for them to understand their own child's behaviour when they don't behave similarly. If the adult-'child' has become deeply resentful (probably over many years), they may actually associate their background (i.e religion/culture) with the perceived suppression they are subjectively feeling. That makes them more likely to jump ship to another society. I've seen this umpteen times over decades, but it is usually females who do this - not guys. On reflection, I think one thing some Panjabi parents get wrong is in the environment they create at home for their kids. Often the kids perceive it as oppressive and rebel against it. But that being said: You can get it right and still have a child do what they want (and against your wishes) too. I think this growing up thing, isn't just for adult 'children' but for the parents too. We all have to let go one day, maybe it's just the situation in which this happens that we have some control of - if we are lucky?

It's obvious. The british.

Yeah, I know. And we all know what you do crave........lol He-sausages. lmao I don't like it. I just recognise the potential health benefits. Plus you can go to Canada and large parts of America and get it legally. And for the rest of you giddarhs. One of those sukha imbibing warriors of the past, who stood up, and fought against unimaginable odds, and perserverved is worth at least 10 million of you and your mothers. None of us are worthy of even the dust on their shoes. If you're going to sl@g off those types of Singhs, you're going to have to do ninya of shaheeds like Mehtab Singh, Sukha Singh and Baba Gurbaksh Singh. Shame on you.

But we are all born with an endocannabinoid system (which is a little understood part of our immune system), and compounds in sukha (exogenous cannabinoids) are likely to be able to help with deficiencies. Maybe the ancient Indics had some grasp of this?

PS - The reference in Gursobha isn't about sukha, but afeem.

Throw myself in a bunch of stuff (for a prolonged period) to distract my mind.

I was always baffled by the pronunciation of 'saboon' (soap) in Japji Sahib (compared to modern sabun) then I learnt about the etymology of the word.

Bhai ji, the books are available on my scribd (English translations and original texts). Try and locate them. But I will try and hunt the references out when I get time. I just haven't got the 30 odd minutes I'd need to locate them again at the mo. https://www.scribd.com/user/21205536/dalsingh101

The roots of words in Japji Sahib aren't just Sanskrit, there are Persian and Arab ones too.

Because you're gay yourself and that is hardly endorsed in Sikhi is it.

Rotherham grooming gang: Man who indecently assaulted young girls jailed for 18 years Mohammed Ahsan selected his victims ‘because of their vulnerability,’ say investigators https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rotherham-grooming-gang-trial-mohammed-ahsan-jailed-operation-stovewood-a9113606.html

Thank Waheguru that our pendus aren't in the desperate and ignorant position of the past when they'd jump into these foreign jungs and totally take their eyes off what was going on in their own homeland/backyard. If war does break out, there will probably be blow back against some Sikhs due to a general rise in 'anti-brown' racism as well as the usual ignorant 'mistaken identity' issue Sikhs have with sullay in various parts of the world. All brothers and sisters should be ready to hold strong defensive positions in this potential situation. We should also be VERY careful about scared or opportunistic sell outs from amongst us, especially when they inevitably get masqueraded around like lackey tokens. Like the 'donkeys' in The war for the planet of the apes. Great film to watch, if you haven't already!

The whole point about rehit-namas and the differences between them is a whole discussion in itself, but there is evidence in Bhangu's Panth Prakash, Sainapati's Gursobha, Prem Sumarag Granth. There is also notice of this in the earliest european sources from the late 1700s. No one is telling anyone to do these things, but to whitewash your own people's history is weak. As alluded to previously, the people who did partake aren't likely to have done so for what we call 'recreational reasons' today. It may as well have been medical reasons? Given how sukha da tehl is being increasingly investigated by modern science along this very line, it isn't implausible. It may well have been a carry over from pre-existing Ayurvedic practice? Can't you people have a grown up discussion about this?

Maybe our ancestors had an inkling of the health and psychological benefits of certain components of sukha? Look at these goray, they are now selling sukha da telh with haldhee mixed in. https://www.simply-cbd.co.uk/product/liquid-gold/

If someone acknowledges certain aspects of Sikh history that people find uncomfortable today, it doesn't mean they do these things themselves or are addicts...... Grow up.

There are a few historical references along this line bro.

I've never heard that said about jalebian myself??? Plus they just seem heavily ladened with refined sugar. No ingredient in them appears to have any nutritional value. They are carb overload (as delicious as they may be!). Poppy seeds and some of the other ingredients in the recipe you quoted are completely different. For example the poppy seeds work on our opiate receptors in a mild way. Almonds are good too. A taksali giani told me the poppy milk is good for the brain. But my mum used to make us drink a variant of this when we were kids.

I tell you one good recipe I sort of adapted from my mom. Soak some poppy seeds overnight (a tablespoon per person), or for a few hours. Grind it into a paste in a mortar and pestle. Then add to milk in a pan. Add some keeo, crushed almonds, green cardamon seed powder, a tiny twist of black pepper, and a tiny bit of gurrh (if you like it slightly sweet). Boil this well (stirring it regularly). It's lovely and gives you a very subtle saroor.

What do you think that Sarbloh Granth brings in that Dasam Granth doesn't - just out of interest.

I think a lot of it stems from whatever shyte hole juts ran off from and erased from their corporate memory before they reached Panjab (I'd guess they were Roma gypsies myself). It's true that brits exploited it, but the stupidity was already there to exploit and encourage by goray.

Looks like: Ik Oankaar satguru ji?

That sounds like some colonial gora slipped one of your great-grand mommas 'a portion' on the sly?

From what I see, our lot don't seem too keen on this idea in any case?

This is eye opening. Ex Scotland Yard police man Jon Wedger (who did 27 years service) exposes how high ranking police officers and politicians derail investigations into organised pedo rings, and try and intimidate people who persist in confronting these things. It's interesting to note how he mentions one of the hotbeds of such abuse being Southall, which most of us will know has a sizeable Sikh population. Sadly, we still get the odd dimwitted, cowardly apna (and apnee) who resent Sikhs who have been trying to combat the long-standing phenomena of the targeted grooming of people in our own community. Often they suggest that the phenomena is exaggerated, or that confronting leads to 'community tensions' (which their cowardly nature seems to make them petrified of?). Well, here we seem to have an informed, experienced perspective from outside of our community. The indifference of the police, social services and political class Jon Wedger alludes to here, echoes the sentiments of many in the Sikh community who've been trying to deal with this, or who have approached the establishment for help in dealing with their own family issues in this department. I've only seen the first hour yet, but I'd like to salute all those people who've been trying to confront and deal with this issue (sometimes for decades) in the face of so much obfuscation by people in positions of power. Keep it up, and all these efforts ARE bearing fruit as awareness IS increasing, despite all the attempts to malign people and cover up. Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Nah, have you?