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The guest who they had Dr Sharma acted as if he knew about Sikhi and went on about Sikhs being married according to Vedic Rites,whats that all about?He claims this happened 100 yrs ago FACT IS it did not,he dismisses the decision of Akal Takht that a Sikh can only marry a Sikh as 'SGPC',alongside all the usual Baman Koor Parchaar they do like 1st son of a Hindu was made a Sikh,Sikhs came from Hindus and so on. This guy previoulsy appeared on the BBC Asian Network Show in relation to 25 years of the Sikh Genocide and Bluestar In this he was also blatanly racist that show is downloadble from the above link,the Dr Sharma from the Hindu Council UK (RSS Wing UK)also spoke on that show along with his support for Operation Bluestar. Now on this show he tries to act as if hes higher than Akal Takht by teaching Sikhs Sikhism. Why do the BBC Asian Network get Hindus to debate Sikh issues and Hindus being of those from the Hindu Council who has open links with RSS,and HSS Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh. The show on topic was nothing but Baman Parchaar live on BBC radio and he claims it is okay for a non Sikh to marry a Sikh in a Gurdwara in violation of Sikh Code of Conduct and ANAND KARAJH.

A non Sikh cannot marry a Sikh in a Gurdwara - as the Anand Karajh ceremony is for a male and female who accept the 10 Gurus and Guru Granth Sahib as their only eternal Guru. The 1st woman said she to mahrajs saroop to a castle as a interfaith marriage was not allowed More Debate here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/b006wqgk/Monday/console/ ''Monday 27th July, 2009. At 1, Nihal ask's 'Should Interfaith marriages be allowed in places of worship? A debate has kicked off amongst Sikhs over whether they should be able to marry non Sikhs in a Gurdwara. What do you think? Do you think that Hindu should be able to marry a Sikh in Mandir or a Gudwara? Should a Christian be able to marry a Muslim in a church or in a mosque?''

WE HAVE BIGGER ISSUES let her wear whatever colour she likes

They should remember Sikhi aint Taliban ideology that you can bar people just from their apperance ,then they say oh we got no Sikhs if they're going to hate on all types of Sikhs - ie sehajdhari then wheres the compassion we were taught by the Gurus

http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/2871/2006-11-01.html I close my case videos pics and a whole load of other evidence say otherwise

Buddihists dont believe that there is a God - Sikhs do

Im with AmarJKP on this one I agree fully DAL KHALSA UK PRESS RELEASE BELOW ON THESE SPEECHES http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?act=fi...&pid=424458

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The suicide bombers and throat-slitters are not Arab Mujahedeen or Afghan Taliban. This ‘expertise’ has been introduced by the Indians and the Israelis in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The crimes of the Indian-groomed Taliban have nothing to do with the Afghan Taliban fighting inside their own country and the Kashmiri freedom fighters inside their own territory. The question is: Why is the Pakistani government continues to feel ashamed in standing up for Pakistan? Proof of Indian weapons and special-ops agents have been discovered in Swat and Balochistan. The evidence is so damning that US officials had no choice but to olige Pakistan and directly ask Indian Prime Minister, Foreign Minister and Defense Miniser to tame Indian terror-breeding operations in Afghanistan aimed at Pakistan. Manmohan Singh, confronted by the Pakistani Prime Minister with evidence in Egypt, had no choice but to agree to refer to Indian terrorism in Balochistan in the joint statement. It was an amazing revelation by a serving Maj. General of Pakistan army in-charge of the Swat operation during an interview with Aaj television news channel. Maj. Gen. Sajjad Ghani has revealed the following points backed by evidence: 1. Swat valley was occupied by criminals with full money and logistical support of India. 2. The entire operation was planned by Indian military officers posted to several locations in Afghanistan 3. The Indian ‘footprint’ in Swat and the Pakistani tribal belt includes: Indian currency, Indian bullets, Indian small explosives, Indian heavy explosives, and other items that indicate links to Indian army’s command and control setup. 4. Special hideouts [tunnels, caves, underground passageways] created by Indian expertise and machinery. This technology cannot be available to amateur fighters. 5. Blood banks and all the supporting products, i.e., fresh frozen plasma, etc., to help the fighters sustain a long term war. All this evidence helps in reaching the following conclusions: 1. Sufi Muhammad, Baitullah Mehsud, Fazlullah are all Indian agents, fully in contact with senior officers from R&AW and Defense Intelligence Agency posted in Afghanistan 2. All crimes on Pakistani soil, including the destruction of schools of girls and boys and the slaughter of innocent people were done on orders from Indian assets on the ground and inside the nearby Afghan provinces. These were effectively Indian actions of war against Pakistan 3. This Indian free hand in Afghanistan and inside Pakistan’s Balochistan and NWFP says a lot about the inefficiency of the Pakistani government 5. All suicide bombings in Pakistan are linked to fake Indian-groomed Taliban in Afghanistan, which was built by recruiting brainwashed young men misled into believing they are fighting a jihad against America. The suicide bombings in Pakistan are Indian acts of war. Make no mistake about it. 6. Islam and Muslims are defamed by Indians and their allies. Unfortunately, the Pakistani government and media are hands in glove with this demonization of Pakistan. Instead of asking questions they simply repeat what is fed to them like parrots. 7. Pakistan is losing the support of the mujahedeen who are keeping the Indians at bay in Kashmir and Afghanistan. 8. This tactic of pitching the fake Taliban with the Pakistani military has resulted in a confrontation between the Pakistani army and the Mujahedeen. The fact is that the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan and Kashmir have nothing to do with the crimes of the Indian-groomed fake Taliban. The Indian activities in Afghanistan have gone undetected for a long time. But now enough evidence has been collected to indict the Indian government and military for indulging in the worst forms of terror breeding. Here are some signs of the crimes the Indians are involved in inside U.S.-occupied Afghanistan: 1. Many psychological-operations experts and experts in Islamic indoctrination and what generally is known as ‘mind-messing professionals’ have been deployed in special training camps. These people introduce themselves as Mujahedeen to new recruits, brainwash them and then use them inside Pakistan. 2. The slitting of throats is a new tactic introduced by the Indian terrorism trainers to demoralize Pakistan and show the Afghan Taliban in a wrong light. The suicide bombings are not the result of Arab influence here as the British and American media claims. It is also the result of Israeli experts bringing in their expertise in penetrating Islamic groups. How silly it is that Arabs would arrive in this region to kill Pakistanis and spare the Am-Brit occupiers of Afghanistan all these months. 3. The Mumbai terrorist act appears to be a joint Israeli and Indian event. Both countries have secret close cooperation in the areas of intelligence and countering Muslim groups. The Israeli eagerness to help India against Pakistan is amazing both in Kashmir and Afghanistan is amazing. 4. It is not clear yet if the lone surviving terrorist, Ajmal Qassab, is indeed Pakistani. India has offered no solid evidence proving this and it is shameful that the Pakistani government is not making this public despite the fact that independent investigators from Interpol verify this fact. 5. Qassab means butcher in Urdu/Arabic. In Pakistan, hardly anyone retains this surname. If Qassab is not an Indian who played the role of a Pakistani terrorist, then he certainly is someone who has been duped into joining the group that conducted the operation. Indian explanations regarding the bodies of the rest of the terrorists, their DNA samples, their origins, are misleading and confusing at best, which destroys the entire Indian case against Kashmiri freedom fighters inside Pakistan. 6. Important parts of the Mumbai operation were planned and conducted outside Pakistan. Also, the Indian security failures in Mumbai are suspicious at best. There is more in this case than meets the eye. Pakistan should be under no compulsion to accept the Indian version of events and should advise the same to the international community. Instead, the Pakistani government has chosen complete surrender. A large number of uncircumcized professionally-trained foreign fighters have been found within the ranks of the so-called ‘Pakistani Taliban’. Read this Alert: Indians Fighting In Swat [Warning: Graphic Images] All of the above raises serious questions about the silence of the Pakistani government on the disturbing and treacherous Indian behavior: 1. Why the Pakistan Government is not protesting against Indian invasion into Swat and other cities of Pakistan? 2. Why Pakistan Government is silent over the Indian attack on the Sri Lankan Cricket team? 3. Why Pakistan Government is not using Interpol services to get Altaf Hussain and hang him for his numerous murders and acts of terrorism? Why the Pakistani Government is not asking Kabul to hand over the terrorist Brahamdagh Bugti and hang him for killing innocent Pakistanis, and for the crimes of his grandfather the tyrant Akbar Bugti who killed hundreds of poor Pakistani Balochis and displaced thousands of poor Pakistani Balochis? 4. Why hardcore criminals have been protected under the umbrella of Musharraf’s NRO? 5. Why Mr. Nawaz Sharif and other Pakistani leaders have sold themselves to the devil, keeping totally silent, deaf and dumb on these issues? Why is power more important to them than anything else? 6. Why are we helping those forces which are supporting Indian and Israeli terrorism in Pakistan? We know the forces behind the so-called BLA and MQM. The question is: Why is the government supporting these forces? 7. Why Hamudur Rehman Commission recommendations have not been implemented in letter and spirit? 8. And why did we not learn lesson from East Pakistan bitter experience? By Dr. Awatar S. Sekhon http://www.daily.pk/7163/a-sikh-leader-ind...ficials-silent/

Without the British Sikhism would have been totally wiped of the face of this earth and would have been assimilated in to Hinduism totally.The British at one point even started to photograph Sikhs as the signs were that this faith will diminish and vanish so for records they took pis and made records on the Sikhs. Had the British not preserved Sikhi we would all be Niddar Nang and his Chele Sanathanists ,had the GREAT SINGH SABHA movement not been created the idols would have remained in Harmandar Sahib and so would have the Mahants.Had the British not taken over Panjab after the death of Maharaja Ranjit Singh Sikhi would have totally become Hinduism as at the time the Hindu Agents within the Khalsa Raaj weilded the most power,and if the British had not come in they would have had the raj and along with it the finishing off of Sikhism In a way it is good that our historial artefacts are in Museums in England in temperature controlled rooms and are kept safe and secure,had they been left in the hands of India and the Brahmin regimes that came in they would either be damaged,lost or gone forever. Although there was a lot of zulam commited by the British this was nothing compared to what India unleashed on Sikhs after 1947.The British at least asserted our seperate identity over the last century furing both World Wars and during their time in India when even British intelliegence reports like the one below showed how Sikhi was being eaten at: Hinduism has always been hostile to Sikhism whose Gurus powerfully and successfully attacked the principle of caste which is the foundation on which the whole fabric of Brahminism has been reared. The activities of Hindus have, therefore, been constantly directed to undermining of Sikhism both by preventing the children of Sikh father from taking Pahul and reducing professed Sikhs from their allegiance to their faith. Hinduism has strangled Budhism, once a formidable rival to it and it has already made serious inroads into the domain of Sikhism. (D. Petrie, Assistant Director, Criminal Intelligence, Government of British India, Intelligence Report of 11th August, 1911) It (Hinduism) is like the boa constrictor of the Indian forests. When a petty enemy appears to worry it, it winds round its opponent, crushes it in its folds, and finally causes it to disappear in its capacious interior....Hinduism has embraced Sikhism in its folds; the still comparatively young religion is making a vigorous struggle for life, but its ultimate destruction is, it is apprehended, inevitable without State support." (Max Arthur Macauliffe, 1903) In terms of technological advances had the British stayed just look at Hong Kong which is further east which they just recently left and gave independece in the 90's.

I think this movie is a lie

The stupidst thing would be to go back another option is migration to another country .or if they can't afford that settlement in Lahore

Khalistan is the solution to all the problems of the Sikh Nation, Khalistan will be a sovreign independent state - Sikh Homeland.Raj Bina Na Dharam Chale Dharam Bina Sabh Dalai Malai,we need raj for Sikhism to survive personally I don't believe in the raj nama or karni nama and i reject them due to Sikhs not believeing in prophicies and due to the very un Sikh language they speak in. Waheguru is already here and does not need to come 'down'.Khalistan is a must for Sikh to survive ,eg Sikh issues can be dealt with in EU/America and other places by pressure from the Khalistan Govt we will have a world voice on a world stage,our waters will be protected our shrines and so will our Sikh Qoum be secure in a homeland. Khalistan - nothing less than that

Yeah they think a pigs tooth will keep the Muslims away yet they run to worship devis and hindus

I'd ban it due to the fact Guru Granth Sahib is not accepted as the final Guru say tommorow other castes opened Gurdwareh and called Bhagats from their castes Gurus and held Bhagats as the only main feature in their cult where would Sikhi be they need to be like Singh Sabha & Ramgharia Gurdwareh in the UK and all Gurdwareh like these where only SGGS ji is highest and given full respect and accepted as the final guru

The word 'promise' sends shivers down a Sikh spine. LOL broken 'Promises' are part of our history. Places like Pakistan and Hindoostan are volatile places where communal violence erupts for any reason. We've witnessed first hand partition and delhi riots. Those Sikhs in Pakistans can be washed out any time by the Taliban or Pakistan govt. The politcal structure of Pakistan can change tommorrow and those pleasent relationships your Dal Khalsa UK think they have with the Pak govt could be nothing tommorrow. Sitting back and assuring people all is well is pretty foolish because all we'll do is let the 'storm pass' and then complain we didn't do anything. Its not about Dal Khalsa relationships im not just assuring you on that you can speak to the British Sikh Council they will tell yout the same alongside overwealming majority of the FSO,the main thing is have faith in Guru ,as well as look at the geo political build up of Panjab Provence compared to that of Peshawar or those other places you will see why there is no need to worry.

Dal Khalsa Press Release A3f83fyO9ro Please watch the videos above before reading the Press Relaese: DAL KHALSA PRESS RELEASE ON AKALI DAL AND ANTI SIKH NAMDHARI CULT ON SUPPORT TO HINDU FANATICAL VHP RSS TERRORISTS Dal Khalsa UK wishes to express its utter disgust in regards to a rally by the VHP Vishwa Hindu Parishad ,RSS and Sangh Parivar Hindu Fantical Nazi Terror outfits.Videos of which have appeard on the Youtube channel 'http://www.youtube.com/user/VHPSampark' The rally was centred around the Ram Setu Bridge issue a so called bridge built by Monkey God Hanuman,and the Ram Mandir a site on which the Babari Masjid a Muslim Mosque was torn down by these very Hindu Terror outfits in 1992. The videos which have gone up claim to show support by Sikhs for the Ram Setu Bridge and Ram Mandir.A representative of the Akali Dal Badal State regime which runs the Panjab,came on behalf of Parkash Badal to speak to supporters and genocide sponsoring leaders which had gathered there. The Akali Dal Badal representative started of by praising those Hindutva leaders present on behalf of Badal,and then proceeded to shout slogans of 'Jai Siya Ram' and went on to say the Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.The speaker then goes on to speak of how Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Japji Sahib praises Ram,and equates the word 'Ram' in Bani with the Hindu diety and so called Bhagwan Ram throughout the video.He then goes on to say how the 9th Sikh Guru who gave his life for the protection of Human Rights died for the Hindu Dharam and twists the bani written by Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji to conform with their Hindutva standard of Sikhs are Hindus along with their scriptures.They should note the 9th master would have given his life for any group of people and not just for Hindus and so called Bharat Sanskriti. He then goes on to convey a message by Badal and his Akali Dal to Sudarshan RSS senior leader and other Hindutva Facsits by saying where Hindus will give sacrifices the whole Sikh Nation including Jathebandia will all give Kurbani and spill their blood for the protection of the Ram Setu so called bridge in the ocean and Ram Mandir. He equates this with the court arrest of Sikhs from Amritsar during Indian Terrorist Indira Gandhi's brutal emergency rule. The representative then goes on to say the Shriomani Akali Dal Badal fully support the Hindutva terror outfits present at the stage in their quest - which ultimately would be for a single Hindu Nation Hindu Hindu Hindustan. He than goes on to do a Jakarah of Bole So Nihaal and the Hindu Nationalist Slogan of Jai Siya Ram Than a representative of the Anti Sikh Namdhari Cult appears and says if the name of Ram is taken out of India the nation will be left hollow and empty.He then goes on to say how Hanuman picked up a so called mountain and took it to Sri Lanka where it now stands out amongst other mountains and asks how many symbols of Ram will be wiped out.He than says that he comes here with the Kirpa of his Pakhandi Dehdhari Guru Jagjit Namdharia and that Namdharis died for the protection of the Cow and due to that they were killed by the British being strapped to Cannons.He then goes on to say to his Hindutva brothers that if ever they need any sacrifices all they have to do is go to the 'Charan' feet of his Pakhandi Guru Jagjit Namdharia and the Namdharis will give their heads for the protection of Ram Setu. How can so called Akalis equate the word 'Ram' in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji with the Hindu Diety Ram and that as well as calling him Bagwan(GOD).We find this unacceptable and would like to point out to the Sikh Nation where we should recognise the enemy on the outside ,we should also recognise the enemy sitting within our own quarters and deal with them accordingly as the Khalsa Panth sees fit. The Namdhari Cultists have no right so speak on behalf of the Sikh Nation as they are not Sikhs according to the definiation of a Sikh as set out by Sri Akal Takht Sahib Amritsar.They are ane ex communicated group and have no ties to Sikhism as they do not accept Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj as the present and eternal Guru of the Sikhs.Yet they accept and old Pakhandi called Jagjit Namdharia who sees himself as the 15th Guru of Sikhism.Not only this Namdharis worship devis,do havan,burn anngs or Guru Mahraj every year,get married around a fire while rejecting Anand Karaj wedding ceremony amongst a whole host of other anti Gurmat anti Sikh practices aimed at diluting Sikhi and mixing it within the Hindu fold of Hindutva.We wish to warn the Namdharis you do not and have not ever spoken for the Khalsa Panth,you do not accept our Guru Granth Sahib as Guru therefore we do not and wil not accept you as Sikhs or mouthpieces for the Sikh Nation. Akali Dal Badal also has no right to speak for the Khalsa Panth only Akal Thakt does in an official capacity as the supreme authroity of the Sikhs.Sadly the Akali Dal Badal reign supreme in all areas of Panjab inclduing our most highest and respected insitutions and Gurdwareh.Hindutva may have installed puppets such as Badal,Manmohan Sinh Congressia,and others as puppets and so called Sikhs who say forget 1984 and claim that Sikhs wil die for the Hindu cause.Make no mistake in your minds the Khalsa will never ever support any form of Hindutva and nor will it ever accept defeat or betrayal from within. The time has come Khalsa Ji to rise to your duty to speak out against these foolish people who claim to speak for Sikhs through the stages of a Genocidal Hindutva who wants to finish of Sikhism from its very roots.Had a Sikh leader such as Shaheed Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale - been alive today to give direction to the nation no Hindu terrorist or Hindutva terrorist outfit would have had the guts to install puppets in our groups and communities.Rather the spirit of the Free Sovreign Khalsa would have rose form the ashes of ghulami - slavery to recapture the glory of Sikhism which is being eroded day by day hour by hour and minute by minute. We urge all of you to remain vigilant especially in the Western World where RSS conspiracies are easy to pick out due to the free voice we have and human rights as enshrined within the UN,rights which the Sikh of Panjab do not have instead they have no voice but puppets to speak for them.

The guys in the VIDEO ARE NOT JATT why would they insult themselves in the songs - as the songs are blatantly anti jatt

What makes you certain that these people are "Jatt" and not "chamaars" in disguise seeking to cause further conflicts in the Sikh Panth? Chamaar Ravidassis have been putting up anti-Sikh- anti-Jatt, anti-anything-that-disagrees-with-them videos in a concentrated and organised manner recently. Why would someone who calls herself Bibiejatt put up anti-Jatt videos? Regards, K. 110% agree a ploy to create violence

Guru Ghars are protected d/w about them,Lahore/Panjab Provence of Pakistan is a very unislamic place includes alcohol,and all sorts of vulgar stuff,the people there are nowhere near the likes of the Tribal Talibans who ban tv and music. Gurdwareh bring toruism and Pakistan needs the cash no Gurdwara will be attacked I promise you that,Pakistan is fractured in the middle Lahore one side Balouchastan and the rest of the terror land on the other side.

Panja Sahib IDP Sikhs live in good conditions much better than their Muslim Counter parts as UnitedSikhs show They have clean water,food,aid,and even education The only issue is that Sikhs have to stop getting involved with the Pashtun Drug Lords as shown on Sky News a while back ,once they get involved the problems start as Sikhs traffic the drugs,this is against the teachings of Guru Saab and morally incorrect. It is a luxurious refuge compared with the conditions endured by most of the region's 2 million displaced, some of whom started to trickle home in military-protected convoys today. Instead of a dust-strewn camp the Sikhs live in quarters normally reserved for pilgrims. Thanks to official and private donations they enjoy a well-stocked clinic, a 24-hour kitchen and a temporary school that bustles with laughing children. At the shrine at the heart of the complex, the devout while away the day inside a rainbow-tiled room, perusing scripture and murmuring their prayers. Outside the door, boisterous teenagers yell and splash about in a cool, clear pool that quivers with fish, which volunteers feed diced cucumber. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/1...s-sikhs-taliban

We seriously need to look at the structure of our community in the UK and where we are based in and around Britain,based on that we need to create links and have links in each of these areas,with Gurdwareh,Youth Groups and so on. I believe food wise Sikhs would be okay due to our community being an industrious one which owns a lot of grocers,and other food shops ie chip shops and so on. Where defence is concerned Sikhs need to realise to be mobile within their own communities in their own areas and towns - a sikh presence would ward off attackers.In times of need yes Sikhs from other areas can come and help but if they do end up in the cells then that would leave their own area and community at risk. Sikhs need to stop backing down and taking everything thats thrown at them they need to stand up for themselves,im not saying go learn a fighting art as that will never happen.Basic street fighting on a basic level can be done by anyone and if the need comes Sikhs simply need the courage to fight back,maybe going to the gym as well both girls and boys,girls need to lay off the Rihanna image and stop being size 0 and rather eat properly and have at least some strength to fight back incase of an attack,the same applies to boys - they need to leave the 'ghetto' bad boy image with the trousers hanging down(im implying average sikh kids in towns not specifically Gursikhs). Civil war- Well Sikhs in the UK are so far safe from that but racist attacks by white nationalist nazis' BNP are on the rise on all non whites we need to look into how we can safegaurd our interests and qoum.The other communities will fight back as has been seen with the Muslims,the rich communities like the Hindus/Gujaratis will be safe we know that,the only ones who really stand out are the Sikhs image wise.Sikhs need to realise they will bare the brunt of it like after 9/11 unless they join up and stop fighting rival jathe and stupid arguments over sizes of kachera. We are self sufficient,but we are unefficient in using our resources,each Gurdwara in the UK donating to a central fund which would move our nation forward in the UK as well as Panjab and other places would make a lot of difference but that is not happening.We have the Doctors,Lawyers, and so on but fail to utilise them in times of need.I'l expand on Panjab and the rest of the world after this post

Three cranes have crashed trying to lift a collapsed steel girder at the Delhi metro rail construction site, a day after a deadly accident there. The truck-mounted cranes had lifted the girder off the ground when they buckled under the weight. Nobody was injured but television footage showed people at the site running away to avoid the debris. There are fears that safety standards are being compromised in the rush to build new lines, correspondents say. There is pressure to upgrade Delhi's metro before next year's Commonwealth Games On Sunday, a pillar supporting a partly-built bridge collapsed killing six. The men who died were reported to be labourers working on the bridge, part of the city's new prestigious metro system. 'Buckled' "There have been no injuries to anybody. Some TV channels have been flashing four injuries or six injuries. But I am confirming there have been no injuries," Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) spokesman Aunj Dayal said. Four cranes were trying to lift the 300-ton girder when one of them malfunctioned, news agency Associated Press quoted senior police officer Ajay Kashyap as saying. The other three cranes could not handle the weight and buckled, he said. Sunday's accident in south Delhi's Jamrudpur area is the second involving metro construction projects in less than a year. In October, two people were crushed to death and 12 injured when another bridge under construction collapsed on to a bus and cars below. The BBC's Sanjoy Majumder in Delhi says that Delhi's the seven year old metro system is the city's pride and joy, offering commuters a clean air-conditioned and swift alternative to overcrowded buses and three wheelers. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8147376.stm