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FINALLY, a topic out the gurbani vichaar section worth replying to....

is it me, or is very topic being turned into a slanging match? What is up with you people man...............it not healthly spending too much time in front of a computer u knw............go outside..........get some fresh air and maybe that will put abit of sense into some of the replays nad then maybe this forum will begin to resemble something to what it was like before all the jokers signed up and ruined it................

Awsw ] aasaa || Aasaa: PIlu rbwbI bldu pKwvj kaUAw qwl bjwvY ] feel rabaabee baladh pakhaavaj kooaa thaal bajaavai || The elephant is the guitar player, the ox is the drummer, and the crow plays the cymbals. pihir colnw gdhw nwcY BYsw Bgiq krwvY ]1] pehir cholanaa gadhehaa naachai bhaisaa bhagath karaavai ||1|| Putting on the skirt, the donkey dances around, and the water buffalo performs devotional worship. ||1|| rwjw rwm kkrIAw bry pkwey ] raajaa raam kakareeaa barae pakaaeae || The Lord, the King, has cooked the cakes of ice, iknY bUJnhwrY Kwey ]1] rhwau ] kinai boojhanehaarai khaaeae ||1|| rehaao || but only the rare man of understanding eats them. ||1||Pause|| bYiT isMGu Gir pwn lgwvY GIs glaury ilAwvY ] bait(h) si(n)gh ghar paan lagaavai ghees galourae liaavai || Sitting in his den, the lion prepares the betel leaves, and the muskrat brings the betel nuts. Gir Gir musrI mMglu gwvih kCUAw sMKu bjwvY ]2] ghar ghar musaree ma(n)gal gaavehi kashhooaa sa(n)kh bajaavai ||2|| Going from house to house, the mouse sings the songs of joy, and the turtle blows on the conch-shell. ||2|| bMs ko pUqu bIAwhn cilAw suieny mMfp Cwey ] ba(n)s ko pooth beeaahan chaliaa sueinae ma(n)ddap shhaaeae || The son of the sterile woman goes to get married, and the golden canopy is spread out for him. rUp kMinAw suMdir byDI ssY isMG gun gwey ]3] roop ka(n)niaa su(n)dhar baedhhee sasai si(n)gh gun gaaeae ||3|| He marries a beautiful and enticing young woman; the rabbit and the lion sing their praises. ||3|| khq kbIr sunhu ry sMqhu kItI prbqu KwieAw ] kehath kabeer sunahu rae sa(n)thahu keettee parabath khaaeiaa || Says Kabeer, listen, O Saints - the ant has eaten the mountain. kCUAw khY AMgwr iB lorau lUkI sbdu sunwieAw ]4]6] kashhooaa kehai a(n)gaar bh loro lookee sabadh sunaaeiaa ||4||6|| The turtle says, ""I need a burning coal, also."" Listen to this mystery of the Shabad. ||4||6|| :umm:

some get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning sunshine? :umm:

thats mwJ mhlw 5 caupdy Gru 1 ] maajh mehalaa 5 choupadhae ghar 1 || Maajh, Fifth Mehla, Chau-Paday, First House: myrw mnu locY gur drsn qweI ] maeraa man lochai gur dharasan thaaee || My mind longs for the Blessed Vision of the Guru's Darshan. iblp kry cwiqRk kI inAweI ] bilap karae chaathrik kee niaaee || It cries out like the thirsty song-bird. iqRKw n auqrY sWiq n AwvY ibnu drsn sMq ipAwry jIau ]1] thrikhaa n outharai saa(n)th n aavai bin dharasan sa(n)th piaarae jeeo ||1|| My thirst is not quenched, and I can find no peace, without the Blessed Vision of the Beloved Saint. ||1|| hau GolI jIau Goil GumweI gur drsn sMq ipAwry jIau ]1] rhwau ] ho gholee jeeo ghol ghumaaee gur dharasan sa(n)th piaarae jeeo ||1|| rehaao || I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice, to the Blessed Vision of the Beloved Saint Guru. ||1||Pause|| qyrw muKu suhwvw jIau shj Duin bwxI ] thaeraa mukh suhaavaa jeeo sehaj dhhun baanee || Your Face is so Beautiful, and the Sound of Your Words imparts intuitive wisdom. icru hoAw dyKy swirMgpwxI ] chir hoaa dhaekhae saari(n)gapaanee || It is so long since this rainbird has had even a glimpse of water. DMnu su dysu jhw qUM visAw myry sjx mIq murwry jIau ]2] dhha(n)n s dhaes jehaa thoo vasiaa maerae sajan meeth muraarae jeeo ||2|| Blessed is that land where You dwell, O my Friend and Intimate Divine Guru. ||2|| hau GolI hau Goil GumweI gur sjx mIq murwry jIau ]1] rhwau ] ho gholee ho ghol ghumaaee gur sajan meeth muraarae jeeo ||1|| rehaao || I am a sacrifice, I am forever a sacrifice, to my Friend and Intimate Divine Guru. ||1||Pause|| iek GVI n imlqy qw kiljugu hoqw ] eik gharree n milathae thaa kalijug hothaa || When I could not be with You for just one moment, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga dawned for me. huix kid imlIAY ipRA quDu BgvMqw ] hun kadh mileeai pria thudhh bhagava(n)thaa || When will I meet You, O my Beloved Lord? moih rYix n ivhwvY nId n AwvY ibnu dyKy gur drbwry jIau ]3] mohi rain n vihaavai needh n aavai bin dhaekhae gur dharabaarae jeeo ||3|| I cannot endure the night, and sleep does not come, without the Sight of the Beloved Guru's Court. ||3|| hau GolI jIau Goil GumweI iqsu scy gur drbwry jIau ]1] rhwau ] ho gholee jeeo ghol ghumaaee this sachae gur dharabaarae jeeo ||1|| rehaao || I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice, to that True Court of the Beloved Guru. ||1||Pause|| Bwgu hoAw guir sMqu imlwieAw ] bhaag hoaa gur sa(n)th milaaeiaa || By good fortune, I have met the Saint Guru. pRBu AibnwsI Gr mih pwieAw ] prabh abinaasee ghar mehi paaeiaa || I have found the Immortal Lord within the home of my own self. syv krI plu csw n ivCuVw jn nwnk dws qumwry jIau ]4] saev karee pal chasaa n vishhurraa jan naanak dhaas thumaarae jeeo ||4|| I will now serve You forever, and I shall never be separated from You, even for an instant. Servant Nanak is Your slave, O Beloved Master. ||4|| hau GolI jIau Goil GumweI jn nwnk dws qumwry jIau ] rhwau ]1]8] ho gholee jeeo ghol ghumaaee jan naanak dhaas thumaarae jeeo || rehaao ||1||8|| I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice; servant Nanak is Your slave, Lord. ||Pause||1||8|| which is just Shabd Hazarey, the one pahji referring to her is Shabad Hazary Patishahi 10 this is the shabd, that is actually titled "Thoughts of the Tenth King" iKAwl pwiqSwhI 10] KHYAL OF THE TENTH KING Khiaal Paat(i)shaahi10|| imqR ipAwry nMU hwl murIdW dw kihxw ] Convey to the dear friend the condition of the disciples, Mitra piaare noon haal mureedaan daa khaihnaa|| quDu ibnu rogu rjweIAW dw EFx nwg invwsW dy rihxw ] Without Thee, the taking over of quilt is like disease and living in the house is like living with serpents; Tudh(u) bin(u) rog(u) rajaaeeaan daa o?han naag nivaasaan de raihnaa|| sUl surwhI KMjru ipAwlw ibMg ksweIAW dw sihxw ] The flask is like the spike, the cup is like a dagger and (the separation) is like enduring the chopper of the butchers, Sool suraahikhanjar(u) piaalaa bing kasaaeeaan daa saihnaa|| XwrVy dw swnMU s~Qru cMgw B~T KyiVAW dw rihxw ] 1] 1] The pallet of the beloved Friend is most pleasing and the worldly pleasures are like furnace.1.1 Yaara?e daa saanoon satthar(u) changaa bhatth khe?iaan daa raihnaa||1||1|| again both can be found in any taksal/budda dal(?) gutka

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yeah i found these thank you very much pahji/pehnji , but i was wondering if there were any others........... :umm

Has anyone got any pictures of the scence where Guru Gobind Singh Ji passes the Gurgaddi to Guru Granth Sahib ji? I need this quite urgently and in the largest file size poissible as this is going to be blown up onto a massive poster................ Plz could someone help......?

Admins i think this thread needs to be closed now..........for one there are young children reading this and the way some youth are "gloating" and "cheering" over this death does not give a postive reflection of this forum.......... Everyone has had their say........the gal needs to end here...... bhul chuck maafi

waheguru i cannot believe some of the responses i am reading here..................... Whatever he is...................That between Him and Waheguru cos only Waheguru has the power to condemn or judge..............in no way am i supporting such a character but at the same im im ashamed that my brothers and sisters are engaging in so much slander............. Would Guru Nanak Dev Ji be proud of our actions? waheguru

^^^^ exactly............ i mean we have a gatka class every week, our Ustaad is wicked because he always does parchaar after our classes in English, he takes tuks of Bani and breaks it down to simply and now parents are even staying for the classes I guess we need to target our gurdwara.............i mean SUNDAYS at the gurdwara............soooooooooooo many people are there...............Waheguru is bringing them there...........i may get shoot for saying this.............but at the moment English parchaar in Ghurghars is definatly needed...............for the initiation of the "waking up process" lol...as i like to call it............... We need to be honest.........in many homes...........Punjabi is hardley spoken............so where after akand paths on Sundays theres is this Massive window of opportunity..........for Parchaar............... But what happens?..........gurdwara politics..........why is so hard to ensure everything understands why they sitting there............How special there are , to, at that, moment be sitting in Guru's charan....................Sikhi parchaar need to be done with love and devoution..........but can this been found?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Jio This has long been on my mind, so i thought to share with sangant........with waheguru blessing this paapi with Amrit di daat, just coming up to one year now......i was reflecting on the journey waheguru took me on............and the most visable thing was........that physically........i was one my own..........(but Guru was hamesha ang sang) what i mean to say is.........i would go to listen to katha at Gurdwara, and often would leave feeling abit dazed and the parchaar was (at that time) very deep and i was unable to understand it......... Now a few weeks ago, one of my mates, (who is a Rhadaswami) brought her "Master "Maharaj" Charan Singh" dvd to my house............i was very duboius as to her intentions but i sat down and watched it never the less..........i was quite amazed at the 3 divans i watched............i have no clue about Rhadaswamis and their beliefs..........but the parchar that this so called "Master" did was actually quite acurate and more importantly very easy to understand.................. I laughed with my friend and sed well "i realy enjoyed the prechar..........hes does realy good katha" so in my eyes i saw nothing more that a katha vachik, (without implying any dis-respect to the mahan - katha vachiks of the Sikh Panth) BUT to people like my friend..........they see "this amazing person" who is revealing the word of God and flock behind him like lambs..................the worry her is the the REAL mster Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji is being passed of as noting more that a "book" not just in non-sikhi groups............but scarily in our very own sikh kaum.............This silent and deadly assasination of our living Guru is sad but what can we as gursikh do to remind people.........."sab sikhan ko hukam hai GURU maneyo GRANTH" and not some person, who, with all due respect has done Kauge of Bani but them proceeds to act as they are to Key to getting closer to God? So the question i guess im asking is................what is happening to sikhi parchaar? what changes have to be made to ensure sikhs are made aware of What sikhi actually is? I mean u have Great MAHAN gursikhs like Giani Thankur Singh who are awaking sikhi inside many people, but how can we, help spread this message furthur that one Has a Guru that is Living today, in the roop of Guru Granth Sahib Ji.........and They are the True Path to God? my post is not meant to cause offense, if anything i have sed does, please consider me and maha paapi and forgive all my shortcomings........ Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

woooooooooooow thats sounds ABSOLUTLY AMAZING!!!!! Amazing sewa man....................... :BOW:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji ki Fateh Pahji!! Long time no darshaaan man...........hope my swwet pahji is in chardi kalah......... Yeah Ustaad Ji does classes on Thursdays 6pm onwards, i learned my basic uhra/iarah from Them and They are realy good, they have so much pyaar and shardi for Maharaj's bani (as do all gursikhs ) The way he teaches you is good cos i picked it up quite quickly.........and tell me tell you.......im proper dumb :BL......also when u go take a copy of the "Bal Updesh" book, you get get a copy from DTF on Soho Road but u will need that book to learn ur basics and Muharni.......... Drop and bell if you need any more advice............ Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

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waheguru hehehe...that reminds me, i was at this house program once and the family had a parrot and while Giani Ji was doing vichaar the parroot would go "waheguru, waheguru, waheguru"..........hehehe it was sooooooooo cool. just thought id share...........that parrot has japped more namm than my mummy ji

Gurfateh If we look at the avasta of a sant/braimgyani............we need to look no furthur that ashpadi 7-8 of sukhmani sahib and in itself tells the qualities and vitues of such enlightened souls..... Here lies the problem.............when people reach such an avasta................the tests that a person who has such a high avasta are very hard.............for example...........a papi like me who loved Snickers chocolates before she took amrit........Maharajs test for me may be on day coming to work and find a massive box of sickers minis in the staffroom table........ :lol: and my test is to ensure i dont give into temptation and eat them (cos they got egg in, for those who dnt know ) But someone doing bhagti for example, there tests are like next level..........they may start to get a following of people around them......and they start bowing down to him...........he has two choices.........1. maya creeps in but he look to waheguru and ask for protection against maya and pray that he does not get hankaar/haumai because and this and realsie that it is not him they are bowing to but waheguru himself.................2. maya creeps in and he starts enjoying the facts that people are bowing to him and in that moment forgets waheguru and starts considering himslef something...................unfortunatly some/most of these fake babeh probably at one stage were doing bhagti..........but bcos kaljug da pehra is so bad, they give into maya and hence theres so many of the fakers running around cos they've lost their kamai......... But the trues ones see waheguru everywhere...........so when its coming to letting people doing the sewa..............if they are seeing waheguru in everyone..............to them.........its waheguru doing it............if that makes sense...............they dont see, you, me, him, her, them, they see in the jot inside you thats realy doing the sewa..............that being waheguru........... jh Awpn aUc Awpn Awip nyrw ] jeh aapan ooch aapan aap naeraa || When He Himself was lofty, and He Himself was near at hand, qh kaun Twkuru kaunu khIAY cyrw ] theh koun t(h)aakur koun keheeai chaeraa || then who was called master, and who was called disciple? ibsmn ibsm rhy ibsmwd ] bisaman bisam rehae bisamaadh || We are wonder-struck at the wondrous wonder of the Lord. nwnk ApnI giq jwnhu Awip ]5] naanak apanee gath jaanahu aap ||5|| O Nanak, He alone knows His own state. ||5|| jh ACl ACyd AByd smwieAw ] jeh ashhal ashhaedh abhaedh samaaeiaa || When the Undeceiveable, Impenetrable, Inscrutable One was self-absorbed, aUhw iksih ibAwpq mwieAw ] oohaa kisehi biaapath maaeiaa || then who was swayed by Maya? Awps kau Awpih Awdysu ] aapas ko aapehi aadhaes || When He paid homage to Himself, iqhu gux kw nwhI prvysu ] thihu gun kaa naahee paravaes || then the three qualities were not prevailing. jh eykih eyk eyk BgvMqw ] jeh eaekehi eaek eaek bhagava(n)thaa || When there was only the One, the One and Only Lord God, qh kaunu AicMqu iksu lwgY icMqw ] theh koun achi(n)th kis laagai chi(n)thaa || then who was not anxious, and who felt anxiety? I guess the point im trying to make is.............what is that thing that makes us hesitate before serving someone who is considered having a high avasta? its OUR Haumai..........we need to work on our own kamai and bhagti by doing as much path, simeran, sewa to build our jeevans...............if we do this is a pure heart..............Nimerata comes naturally......... Sorry if ive gone off topic...........lol im just a useless babbler..... bhul chuck maafi!! Gurfateh!

a very very good post.......we need more like these :BOW:

Gurfateh A very interesting question..............i guess the first question we have to ask............what is a gursikh? Gursikh/Gurmukh/Sant/Mahapursh/Braimgyani/ are given a very high darja by Guru Ji, but we seem to have this notion that every person who has taken amrit is automatically a GURSIKH............ Unfortunatly...............how we percieve such people and how Waheguru describes such people are very different..........the notion of a gursikh/gurmuth etc etc etc are so loosly thrown around now that they are seeming to lose their value.............. however if we go by wahegurus definitions....heres a few tuks that signify what exactly a gurmukh is............ gurmuiK jp qp sMjmI hir kY nwim ipAwru ] guramukh jap thap sa(n)jamee har kai naam piaar || For the Gurmukh, the love of the Name of the Lord is chanting, deep meditation and self-discipline. suK swgru hir nwmu hY gurmuiK pwieAw jwie ] sukh saagar har naam hai guramukh paaeiaa jaae || The Name of the Lord is the Ocean of Peace; the Gurmukhs obtain it. this shabad i guess realy sums it up isrIrwgu mhlw 3 ] sireeraag mehalaa 3 || Siree Raag, Third Mehla: hir Bgqw hir Dnu rwis hY gur pUiC krih vwpwru ] har bhagathaa har dhhan raas hai gur pooshh karehi vaapaar || The devotees of the Lord have the Wealth and Capital of the Lord; with Guru's Advice, they carry on their trade. hir nwmu slwhin sdw sdw vKru hir nwmu ADwru ] har naam salaahan sadhaa sadhaa vakhar har naam adhhaar || They praise the Name of the Lord forever and ever. The Name of the Lord is their Merchandise and Support. guir pUrY hir nwmu idRVwieAw hir Bgqw Aqutu BMfwru ]1] gur poorai har naam dhrirraaeiaa har bhagathaa athutt bha(n)ddaar ||1|| The Perfect Guru has implanted the Name of the Lord into the Lord's devotees; it is an Inexhaustible Treasure. ||1|| BweI ry iesu mn kau smJwie ] bhaaee rae eis man ko samajhaae || O Siblings of Destiny, instruct your minds in this way. ey mn Awlsu ikAw krih gurmuiK nwmu iDAwie ]1] rhwau ] eae man aalas kiaa karehi guramukh naam dhhiaae ||1|| rehaao || O mind, why are you so lazy? Become Gurmukh, and meditate on the Naam. ||1||Pause|| hir Bgiq hir kw ipAwru hY jy gurmuiK kry bIcwru ] har bhagath har kaa piaar hai jae guramukh karae beechaar || Devotion to the Lord is love for the Lord. The Gurmukh reflects deeply and contemplates. pwKMif Bgiq n hoveI duibDw bolu KuAwru ] paakha(n)dd bhagath n hovee dhubidhhaa bol khuaar || Hypocrisy is not devotion-speaking words of duality leads only to misery. so jnu rlwieAw nw rlY ijsu AMqir ibbyk bIcwru ]2] so jan ralaaeiaa naa ralai jis a(n)thar bibaek beechaar ||2|| Those humble beings who are filled with keen understanding and meditative contemplation-even though they intermingle with others, they remain distinct. ||2|| so syvku hir AwKIAY jo hir rwKY auir Dwir ] so saevak har aakheeai jo har raakhai our dhhaar || Those who keep the Lord enshrined within their hearts are said to be the servants of the Lord. mnu qnu saupy AwgY Dry haumY ivchu mwir ] man than soupae aagai dhharae houmai vichahu maar || Placing mind and body in offering before the Lord, they conquer and eradicate egotism from within. Dnu gurmuiK so prvwxu hY ij kdy n AwvY hwir ]3] dhhan guramukh so paravaan hai j kadhae n aavai haar ||3|| Blessed and acclaimed is that Gurmukh, who shall never be defeated. ||3|| krim imlY qw pweIAY ivxu krmY pwieAw n jwie ] karam milai thaa paaeeai vin karamai paaeiaa n jaae || Those who receive His Grace find Him. Without His Grace, He cannot be found. lK caurwsIh qrsdy ijsu myly so imlY hir Awie ] lakh chouraaseeh tharasadhae jis maelae so milai har aae || The 8.4 million species of beings all yearn for the Lord. Those whom He unites, come to be united with the Lord. nwnk gurmuiK hir pwieAw sdw hir nwim smwie ]4]6]39] naanak guramukh har paaeiaa sadhaa har naam samaae ||4||6||39|| O Nanak, the Gurmukh finds the Lord, and remains forever absorbed in the Lord's Name. ||4||6||39|| This is what a TRUE gursikh is...........a gursikh has the sohjee and his enshrined the name of waheguru inside him/her...................THIS is the gursikh the GuruJi referes to and there im basing the assumption............ when in the company to such an amazing gursikh with such a high avasta, you serve them with utter love and devoution, because the are Rab Da Roop and the phal you must get from that is amazing kirpain itself jn nwnk gurmuiK prgtu hoie ]4]2] jan naanak guramukh paragatt hoe ||4||2|| O servant Nanak, the Lord is revealed through the Gurmukh, the Living Expression of the Guru's Word. ||4||2|| erm...............yeah thats it realy........... bhul chuck maafi Gurfateh

lol...........u know what ppl are like, half the time they give guesses of the top of their ends..........bahahaha :rolleyes: yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cant wait man!!! Waheguruuuuuuuuuuu!!!

When Guru Gobind Singh Ji leave that this need has arise for Him to "come back"?

7pm?? Nanaksar sed 8-9? :umm:

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the countdown begins..........................

oooooooooooooooooooo someones watching their figure aint they?? :D

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Giani Thakur SIngh Ji will be doing Katha at Nanaksar Tath Gurdwara, Just of the Penn Road in Wolverhampton 25th-26th July 2008 - 8-9pm I missed the katha last night so im assuming the Sunday will be katha at Smethwick Gurdwara, but again Dass will keep updating as more information becomes available!! :D :D :D Definatly not an opportunity to be missed!!! Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh