the pope

[buddasingh]

What have I done for humanity?? …my laundry today. Rather than replies edging on personal attacks, READ what I was referring to and address that. It is obvious that a couple of the replies did not read the initial post. Much of what positive is said might be right, but it does not address what I raised. Enlighten me, I am open to it.

Karol Wojtyla may have said and done many positive things. To assist you in constructive reply here is a starting point for your argument, but with my slant... He was not only a religious figure but a political figure. At times he was perhaps progressive as he lead from judgment toward politically prudent toned down judgment, but then back toward judgment.

At a time like this it is dignified to respect catholics who may have varying shades of views about other religions. However, those who set the parameters of public dialogue, the western media, do not raise the great contradiction of hate which is incorporated into the “love” offered to “lesser” people. Of all people, a free nation of Sikhs need to be aware of this, no matter how unpopular it is to be aware.

Wojtyla’s view on the turban is nice and necessary for Sikhs and the pope from a political point of view. But would we thank someone who unfairly taxed us every month to return a small amount on the odd occasion. If majority faiths unequivocally stopped promoting the belief that those of a different faith will go to hell, the dastar will be much less an issue in the first place.

Sikhi does tell people to follow their own religion, but also draws a line at discriminating against people. Saying that God is the exclusive domain of followers of Christ is sickening discrimination, nothing less. A great deal of prayer for discrimination becomes ritual which makes the discrimination worse not better.

I ask you to sharpen your mental sword and READ the Wojtyla’s own words and the excerpt from Dominus Iuses that I initially posted above and ask yourself one simple question. What do you make of the Wojtyla believing that you are doomed to eternal damnation because you are adherents of Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji? Answer as if you were answering to Guruji.

[Gupt daasan daas]

we think we know how vaheguru je thinks

none of us do

kirpa karho deenke daathe mera gun AVGUN na veecharho koe

dhan sach patshah

guur je fogives all

when the pople left its said he was looking at the window and praying

i dont find that hard to belive,m he used to pray a lot

the likes of ganika were saved due to vahegurus name, y not the popee who didnt know sme thing, and made some mistakes here and ther, but not near wat ganika did

but vaheguru je forgave ganuka just cause ONCE SHE remeber him

the pope remeber god his whole life

vaheguru je will not forget that

we are all his kids

if we make mistakes, vaheguru je will forgive themits all bout the pyaar

bhula chuka maf

[buddasingh]

we think we know how vaheguru je thinks

none of us do

kirpa karho deenke daathe mera gun AVGUN na veecharho koe

dhan sach patshah

guur je fogives all

when the pople left its said he was looking at the window and praying

i dont find that hard to belive,m he used to pray a lot

the likes of ganika were saved due to vahegurus name, y not the popee who didnt know sme thing, and made some mistakes here and ther, but not near wat ganika did

but vaheguru je forgave ganuka just cause ONCE SHE remeber him

the pope remeber god his whole life

vaheguru je will not forget that

we are all his kids

if we make mistakes, vaheguru je will forgive themits all bout the pyaar

bhula chuka maf

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