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No where is Guru Granth Sahib Ji are we told to worship sangrands, masseas, etc.

thit vaar naa joagee jaanai rute maahee naa koaee

jaa kurtaa sithti kau saajai aapai jaanai soaee

We read this everyday but fail to follow or understand it.

People often use baarah maaha for backing up their belief in sangrands.

http://207.38.254.54:83/nylocal/Default.as...Dee+Pechan%2DCD

This link shoudl remove the doubts for those who believe in sangrands and other masseaas and pooranmashis.

garih nivara satguru-about sangrand

Please take laha from awesome raag kirtan and katha.

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thit vaar naa joagee jaanai rute maahee naa koaee

jaa kurtaa sithti kau saajai aapai jaanai soaee

O Singha, please read Gurbani carefully. The above lines talk about the beginning of the creation which no one knows but Sangraand is considered first day of the new month. The lines above have nothing to do with Sangraand. Whatever it may be I don't care but if people go to Gurdwaras just because of this day then I respect that. At least people go to Gurdwaras to do satsang. This day actually helps them get closer to Guru Ji. Would Guru Ji actually say "Your satsang means nothing since you did it on sangraand which is not Gurmat"? Slowly people will start to like satsang and forget these days. More satsang the better. Only educating people will do the job. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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In my view, there must be spiritual significance regarding "poranmaschi" because Guru Nanak Dev Nirankar was born in poranmaschi as Guru Avtar ..thats when foundation of khalsa was put as seeds.

you can call it bipran kee reet all you want but fact remains -Guru Avtar in kalyug was born on poranmaschi to spread Naam bani and to break duality in people.

And besides,

Here is another example: gurdwara committee arranges special programm on sundays now a day. why? because people come on these days in big number, so we use this opportunity to do parchaar. "same is with sangraand and pooranmaasi"

everyone likes parchar, don't they??

sangraand and pooranmaasi have not been made by brahmans..... it was made by god itself...so how could it be bipran keet reet??? ...sangraand first day of every month which is called sangraand and pooran means 'complete'

maas means month.

maasi : means that particular day

pooran masi is the day, on which 'chandar mahina' ends. pooranmaasi is night of full moon.

I think we should assign "khalsa fauji" as next jathedar of sgpc so he can fullfill all his dreams and live in naam simran and be shant forever :doh: .. ...(note: sarcasm) :e:

come on man,

stop being soo parnoid about everything.

you calling everything and anything bipran kee reet(reet of bhramans) which does not suit your mind set of beleifs... whereas sangrand and pornasmchi was not created by bhramins at all just like how sunday was not created by christians..lol

G'day mate ! :T:

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It's recorded fact in various granths (Sooraj Prakash, PAnth Prakash) that Guru ji used various days to have large sangat gatherings. Sangrands, Pooranmashis, Vaisakhis, Holis, have been all days that Guru ji used to have large sangat gatherings. The point was not to worship the actual days, but to use them to have large sangat gatherings.

We do similar things even today. Say for example having a New Years Gurdwara programme, or having large sangat gatherings on Sunday. The point is not to worship Sunday or worship New Years day, but to use them as an excuse to congregate with gursikhs.

So don't worry too much about having "sangraand" day at the gurdwara, no one is going to tell you to worship the moon on that day, you'll be just in the company of sangat and read from gurbani.

Guru ji has written Bani specific to months....not to make us worship the months, but just to serve as reminders. Just like doing "Nitnem" we get a daily reminder. Just like doing Naam Simran all day we get a constant reminder. Similarly, we get a reminder once a year when we decide to spend New Years Eve at the gurdwara instead of partying with friends.

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thit vaar naa joagee jaanai rute maahee naa koaee

jaa kurtaa sithti kau saajai aapai jaanai soaee

O Singha, please read Gurbani carefully. The above lines talk about the beginning of the creation which no one knows but Sangraand is considered first day of the new month. The lines above have nothing to do with Sangraand. Whatever it may be I don't care but if people go to Gurdwaras just because of this day then I respect that. At least people go to Gurdwaras to do satsang. This day actually helps them get closer to Guru Ji. Would Guru Ji actually say "Your satsang means nothing since you did it on sangraand which is not Gurmat"? Slowly people will start to like satsang and forget these days. More satsang the better. Only educating people will do the job. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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Bijli Singh Ji! I understand what you are trying to say. The reason I used the quote was:

The sun passes through 12 Raasas. When it reaches a new Raas, a new month is started. The days that go up and down according to the lunar calculations, are called thitts. The Sanskrit word is tithe. According to lunar system, a month has 2 parts. light side and dark side. After Masseaa, when it is all dark, the light side starts as moon becomes more visible each day untilPooranmashi. On pooranmashi, the moon is totally visible. That is why it is called pooranmashi. After that day, the moon starts decreasing, according to our visible eye. This side is called dark side. Then on massea, we can't see the moon again.

Sangrand is a thit. I know that Shabad is for those who tell about when the planet was created and what the season was, etc. etc.

I believe this can be used for preaching against people who believe sangrands, poornmashis, amaavasseas, etc. are holy days. No day is holy. If you have Akaal and Guru in your heart and are following rehat, everyday is holy. Else if you are into wrong things, then no day is holy.

Bhul Chuk Maaf. Bhulla Galti Maaf Kurnee.

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In my view, there must be spiritual significance regarding "poranmaschi" because Guru Nanak Dev Nirankar was born in poranmaschi as Guru Avtar

This is a common myth but Guru Nanak Dev Ji appeared in this world in vaisakh. I personally don’t believe in avtar theory. read Karam Singh historian's book "Katak Ke Vaisakh". Bhai Bala's janamsakhi written more than 200 years after Guru Nanak Dev Ji really messed up people's minds. celebrating these days might be bipran ki reet but going to satsang on these days is not. only the time when I remember my Guru Ji is holy otherwise everyday, every minute and every second sucks. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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Sat Sri Akal:

Ugh, for God's sake!! Pooranmashi and Sangrand...why you say? Cause people did not have calendars, but the moon has been ever-visible. So when the moon achieves its Pooranmashi, Sikhs knew to gather at the Gurudwara for Sangat.

Only that day is special in which one remembers the Almighty says the Guru Granth Sahib.

We are Sikhs, not werewolves darn it!

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