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Mr. International, I don’t know why you have to attack Taksal to defend Ghagga. It makes no sense. If Taksal is wrong on some issues then why not invite them for a debate and have them clarify their positions. There are many wrong things in the Panth right now but you cannot deny that Ghagga is wrong also and pointing at wrong things of Taksal to defend Ghagga is only an attempt to divert attention. There could be many wrong statements in Gurbani Path Darshan but Taksal has given so much to the Panth. They were the first ones to start parchaar against Narakdharis and emergency of Indira. They sacrificed for the panth also. They never denied the basic fundamentals of SIkhi such as Naam Simran and they never believed that Guru Sahib was afraid of anyone. So if they have some negatives they also have positives. Ghagga and his co have done nothing positive for the entire panth. Taksal came forward to help the panth. Ghagga is only concentrating on Taksal and has done nothing to counter RSS, Dehdharis, Christian Missionaries and Muslims in UK which are our current major problems. Taksal countered internal problems (Dehdharis and non-Amritdhari parcharaks) and external (punjabi suba, Anandpur Resolution etc). Ghagga is only attacking those who are part of the panth but has no time for our enemies who are working hard to destroy our panth. Taksal is part of the panth and no one is perfect in a family but we can sit down and resolve our issues like family members. History only remembers those who sacrifice and do something positive for the panth. Giani Dit Singh and Bhai Gurmukh Singh are remembered for their positive parchaar. Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha is remembered as a great scholar but not many people know that he did not believe in "Waheguru" Gurmantar. Taksal won’t be remembered for their "lies" but for their sacrifices. If you want people to like Ghagga then counter our enemies first like RSS and bollywood propaganda. Attacking our own family members won't get you anywhere. Rest is up to you. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

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Mr. International, I don’t know why you have to attack Taksal to defend Ghagga. It makes no sense. If Taksal is wrong on some issues then why not invite them for a debate and have them clarify their positions. There are many wrong things in the Panth right now but you cannot deny that Ghagga is wrong also and pointing at wrong things of Taksal to defend Ghagga is only an attempt to divert attention. There could be many wrong statements in Gurbani Path Darshan but Taksal has given so much to the Panth. They were the first ones to start parchaar against Narakdharis and emergency of Indira. They sacrificed for the panth also. They never denied the basic fundamentals of SIkhi such as Naam Simran and they never believed that Guru Sahib was afraid of anyone. So if they have some negatives they also have positives. Ghagga and his co have done nothing positive for the entire panth. Taksal came forward to help the panth. Ghagga is only concentrating on Taksal and has done nothing to counter RSS, Dehdharis, Christian Missionaries and Muslims in UK which are our current major problems. Taksal countered internal problems (Dehdharis and non-Amritdhari parcharaks) and external (punjabi suba, Anandpur Resolution etc). Ghagga is only attacking those who are part of the panth but has no time for our enemies who are working hard to destroy our panth. Taksal is part of the panth and no one is perfect in a family but we can sit down and resolve our issues like family members. History only remembers those who sacrifice and do something positive for the panth. Giani Dit Singh and Bhai Gurmukh Singh are remembered for their positive parchaar. Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha is remembered as a great scholar but not many people know that he did not believe in "Waheguru" Gurmantar. Taksal won’t be remembered for their "lies" but for their sacrifices. If you want people to like Ghagga then counter our enemies first like RSS and bollywood propaganda. Attacking our own family members won't get you anywhere. Rest is up to you. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Bilja singh you talk about RSS and so on... Sukhpreet Singh Udoke... He talked about how hindu granths say hanuman gave keshara ... and then he with the same taksal who say the same thing...

Is guru nanak sahib apart of luv/kush family?

kee pyara bhai dharm singh avtar of lao?

is saying doing 101 akhand paats , countless mool mantar paats and if you do this you wil get this fal or so on? is this gurmat of bhramanvaad

Sayign that baba sunder singh bhindranwale was only born because his father did sukhmani sahib tha paat on one leg? show me where in guru granth sahib ji it says doign paat on one leg?

oen day dasam patshah went to go for shakar... they went all day looking for shakar and they couldnt find it... and they said there is a reason as to whhy we didnt shakar... he asked all the singhs to check if they have there kakaars... and one singh didnt have a kanga.... The reaosn they didnt get shakar is because the singh didnt have kangs in his head.... now what does looking for shakar and what does having a kanga in ur head anything to do with the situation... everyone can make there own judgements...

When one takes amrit they wont go to hell for 10 000 years.. does this make sense? you can do as much paap you want nothing will happen to you for 10 000 years.... hmm interesting... make your judgement...

this is just the very few of the bhramanvaad which is in there books..

secondly We all know the story of sukhpreet singh udhoke who is bought out.... and the scandle...

All i am saying that who is wrong should be said is wrong simple is that... no one should hide from the truth...

All we sikhs have been doing is keeping what we have in our gurdwaras... people like christain missionry, muslims who go door to door preaching... what we have done is kept everything in gurdwra.. do akhand paats hoping something will come out of it. Akal purkh isnt gonna put everything on the plate for us.. we have to move out hands too...

Ok taksal has given so much for the panth from 70

s to 80's as... That doesnt mean that one cannot question there writings... when these people are trying to place there books on the entire panth then the problem occurs...

For example... Nanaksar does whatever they want... they dont even come into the scene... they do what they do... not put there books on entire panth...

From the startying the real issue was taksal then why not debate about taksal.. why they gotta bring in the little points and make a big deal out of it... ok now he has aplogized for that and yet they are still against him... i dont get these people... they trying to avoid the issue...

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You missed the main point. Re-read my post. I never said Taksal is perfect. Missionaries have done little to nothing for the Panth compared to taksal. If they are scholars then why are they not encountering RSS and dehdharis. Do positive stuff first. Tell people what Sikhi is not what it isn't. How many people really read Charittars everyday compared to how many are victims of RSS propaganda? Taksal is part of the panth. When there is a disagreement within a family, you sit down and talk about it. Approach of Ghagga has obviously failed.

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Triya Chairtars are full of follies done by upper caste Hindus and Muslims in the name of faith.And invoke lower caste to do revlution.Which happned under Khalsa rule.And will happen again.

but by opposing it are not missionaries themselve helping the upper caste Hindus.Did not Joginder Singh of spokes men recently met Punjab Shiv sena?

It is OK to meet as Narkdharis also hobnobed with Arya Samajis.Either you are misguided by fake missioanires or are intentionly following them.Whithin spokes men there was an artecle last decmeber which said that Bhatt Swayyes and Bhagat bani si not as per Gurmat.So running from the battle field.

First saying no bani from Tenth Master(as Narakdharis said after reading Ambala Sahib,Ambala Sahib did mention in his book that Narakdgaris arwe OK to replace satnam with Bhagauti in Ardas.They has thier result as Ram Rai had.

So if das gives Banis from Gurus from Guru Granth Sahib,which may appear similar to bani so far been doubted.There will be a plea that some one misused the Guru name.

Ghugga and Co are more cowards and they need to increase the motivation level or facror dynamic else they will be extinct.They have to come to streets and Gurudwara then just concealing behind books and websites or seminars.

but without Bani of Tenth Master.Can they do it?

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Triya Chairtars are full of follies done by upper caste Hindus and Muslims in the name of faith.And invoke lower caste to do revlution.Which happned under Khalsa rule.And will happen again.

but by opposing it are not missionaries themselve helping the upper caste Hindus.Did not Joginder Singh of spokes men recently met Punjab Shiv sena?

It is OK to meet as Narkdharis also hobnobed with Arya Samajis.Either you are misguided by fake missioanires or are intentionly following them.Whithin spokes men there was an artecle last decmeber which said that Bhatt Swayyes and Bhagat bani si not as per Gurmat.So running from the battle field.

First saying no bani from Tenth Master(as Narakdharis said after reading Ambala Sahib,Ambala Sahib did mention in his book that Narakdgaris arwe OK to replace satnam with Bhagauti in Ardas.They has thier result as Ram Rai had.

So if das gives Banis from Gurus from Guru Granth Sahib,which may appear similar to bani so far been doubted.There will be a plea that some one misused the Guru name.

Ghugga and Co are more cowards and they need to increase the motivation level or facror dynamic else they will be extinct.They have to come to streets and Gurudwara then just concealing behind books and websites or seminars.

but without Bani of Tenth Master.Can they do it?

vijaydeep you just want to read triya charitars... your just trying to argue it because you are in love with them...

do i look like joginder singh to you...

Vijaydeep what do you want to happen? When these taksalis have control of every gurdwara what do you expect.... you people just out for a fight...

cant do vichaar..

Is giving Gurmeet singh P.A who was advisor of beant singh a soripa ok? didnt taksal do this?

doing havan at metha chaunk..

leing for over 21 years about the shaheedi of baba jarnail singh jis shaheedi? which shows that baba jarnail singh was a coward... in which he wasnt... he was a singh who fought till the end... but yet these people still have hope and will never move on... there are still stuck at june 7,1984

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Admin Note: Warning given for attacking taksal jatha for the past few days.

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