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author- kam1825

here are two of the first two videos into the talks on sikhi issues with kala afgana and the sants arguing against his ideas.

The videos show Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawae Walae and Sant Nihal Singh Ji Harian Vela Walae argueing on points of Sikhism with Kala Afgana and his son. Please enjoy the videos and share your views on the topics discussed

Video 01

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...61&hl=en-GB

Video 02

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...76&hl=en-GB

New video added. Video 1 of 3 videos of Sant hari Singh Ji Randhawae Walae debating issues in Sikhism with Kala Afgan supporter. Video 2 gets heated.

Video one

Gurmat Ansar Maas Nirnay Part 01

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...22&hl=en-GB

Last two videos are up.Unfortunately the first 20 minutes of the second video are not up. will try to do it again. That is the lot then enjoy

Gurmat Ansar Maas Nirnay Part 02

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...59&hl=en-GB

Gurmat Ansar Maas Nirnay Part 03

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...71&hl=en-GB

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These are very interesting videos, it touches on controversial issues that has causes many doubts within panth and also new sikh youth generation - sri dasam granth, meat debate, usage of word - "sant" when describing gursikhs other than guru sahiban , existence of bhai bhalla, women doing seva in panj pyares.

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Just watched the first video, must say it's great. I'm impressed Sikhs can gather and not draw the Kirpans out if opinions vary. lol

I must admit he does have a point about the Dasam Granth Ji. - But the only focus for Sikhs is, the GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI. And nobody can dispute the SGGS. (Not that anybody has)

So, we make our our minds up on this. But the SGGS is the Bani and we should not depart from that.

Also, Guru Gobind Singh ji could not have worshipped any other than God alone. It would contradict the whole point of Guru Nanak Dev ji.

Let us do Ardaas that the panth unites under the banner of Gurbani.

Gur Fateh

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Thanks for sharing Namstang and Kam1825.

I have only seen the first video, but that alone shows the perverse logic by which the extremist missionaries operate!

Sant Baba Hari Singh Jee nailed it on the head when he said, near the end of Video 1, that these problems/misunderstandings only arise because you have pseudo-"academics" doing Arth of GurBani without even knowing how to do Shudh Uchaaran of it, and these people have not made the effort to learn Shudh Uchaaran from Puraatan Taksaal's started by Guroo Gobind Singh Jee, such as DamDami Taksaal and Sato-Gali Walee Taksaal.

Baba Nihal Singh also urged that once we do Shudh Uchaaran, the Arth becomes clear and any misunderstandings on Dasam Bani are cleared.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Waheguroo

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fateh to everyone well my brother from india sent me cds of these debates and i was mad shocked by the present sikh views about gurbani and all that i was so fu**** frustrated sorry to use the word but it was shockin and sad that sant samaj is being attacked and true definition of sant being attacked and also gurbani being questioned wt da hell is this all about ignoring the truth and living a totally ignorant life i think bein educated is not everythin rather its nothing not even equal to 0

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