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what i wanted to know is can we trully ever control these things i mean we can pysically refrain from something like relationships i suppose all we need is willpowerer BUT what about other things i mean through the media we are constantly being bombarded with the 5 thiefs e.g. i remember when i was young they had adverts for dove soap and only had the litmus test NOW they have naked women showerin in the advert. computer games are gettin more ''realistice'' i.e. dirtier, man i miss the super nintendo days it was so innocent back then not that i dont love my Playstation 2 now lol. i just want to know how others cope with the constant onslaught of these things i suppose turning the tv is a start but some of us dont want to do that i mean even documentaries are gettin crazy u switch a channel and see kids gettin facials and waxes cos they want to look good lol the worlds goin mad and now i hear stories of singhs gettin their eyebrows threaded i didnt even know what threadin was up until couple of weeks ago lol. are we losing the the sikh identity to the 5 thiefs or is Guru Ji doin this to i dunno weed out the real from the fake (sori if that offends but there ya go)

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i suppose all we need is willpower

Thats not all Singh, leading the life on the principles laid down by Guru Sahib is a must. You said you can control the attachment part with willpower and i think thats the hardest to control. If one can control that the rest can be controlled too.

Yes, TV is playing with our brains. A commercial for shoes now shows women in shorts exposing her legs :wub: thats Kalyug for us.

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JAGAT JALANDA RAKH LE APNEE KIRPA DHAAR.

Yes, the world is burning in flames! Kaljug is only gettin worse. The answer to EVERYTHING IS NAAM. Whatever takes ur mind off guru jee.. keep away its jus maya. This however is hard.. not many have the will power or the kamai to do such things. The miracle of ardas to ask for guru sahiibs aseeesa will take u. May guru sahib shower his grace on the whole world.

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igAwn KVg pMc dUq sMGwry gurmiq jwgY soie ]

With the sword of spiritual wisdom, kill the five demons. Remain awake and aware to the Guru's Teachings.

Ang 1413 Guru Amar Daas Jee Salok

pMc sqwvih dUq kvn ibiD mwrxy ]

The five evil enemies are tormenting me; how can I destroy them?

qIKx bwx clwie nwmu pRB D´weIAY ]

Shoot them with the sharp arrows of meditation on the Name of God.

Ang 1316 Guru Arjun Dev Jee Phunhay Fifth Mehl

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igAwn KVg pMc dUq sMGwry gurmiq jwgY soie ]

With the sword of spiritual wisdom, kill the five demons. Remain awake and aware to the Guru's Teachings.

Ang 1413 Guru Amar Daas Jee Salok

pMc sqwvih dUq kvn ibiD mwrxy ]

The five evil enemies are tormenting me; how can I destroy them?

qIKx bwx clwie nwmu pRB D´weIAY ]

Shoot them with the sharp arrows of meditation on the Name of God.

Ang 1316 Guru Arjun Dev Jee Phunhay Fifth Mehl

Dwvau dsw Anyk pRym pRB kwrxy ]

dhhaavo dhasaa anaek praem prabh kaaranae ||

I run around in all directions, searching for the love of God.

pMc sqwvih dUq kvn ibiD mwrxy ]

pa(n)ch sathaavehi dhooth kavan bidhh maaranae ||

The five evil enemies are tormenting me; how can I destroy them?

qIKx bwx clwie nwmu pRB D´weIAY ]

theekhan baan chalaae naam prabh dhhyaaeeai ||

Shoot them with the sharp arrows of meditation on the Name of God.

hirhW mhW ibKwdI Gwq pUrn guru pweIAY ]16]

harihaa(n) mehaa(n) bikhaadhee ghaath pooran gur paaeeai ||16||

O Lord! The way to slaughter these terrible sadistic enemies is obtained from the Perfect Guru. ||16||

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