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i found this web site i think its really gud and tells u about the History of Kabiyo Bach Benti Choupai being shortened its got the full choupi sahib and everything

http://www.chaupaisahib.com

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iklibK skl dyh ko hrqw ] dust doiKXn ko CY krqw ]26]

sRI AisDuj jb Bey dieAwlw ] pUrn krw gRMQ qqkwlw ]

mn bWCq Pl pwvY soeI ] dUK n iqsY ibAwpq koeI ]27]

Kripa karee ham par jag maataa. Gra(n)th karaa pooran sabh raataa.

Kilbikh sakal deh ko hartaa. Dustt dokhiyan ko chhey kartaa. (26)

Sri asidhuj jab bh-ay diyala. Pooran kraa gra(n)th tatkaalaa.

Man ba(n)chhat phal pavai soee. Dukh na tisai biaapat koee. (27)

The Mother of the world has been kind towards me and I have completed the book this auspicious night;

The Lord is the destroyer of all the sins of the body and all the malicious and wicked persons. (26)

When Mahakal became kind, He immediately caused me to complete this book;

He will obtain the fruit desired by the mind (who will read or listen to this book) and no suffering will occur to him. (27)

History of Kabiyo Bach Benti Choupai being shortened

The British were the main agents in shortening Choupai Sahib during the British Raj. The British sent a scout to Punjab to ascertain how many troops it would take to conquer the Punjab. The scout returned with an unorthodox report. It was to the effect that it would take all British troops in entire India to defeat the Punjab because the Sikhs have an unhuman bravery derived from their Banis. It was said that the Sikhs were undefeatable because they read Choupai Sahib. Through persistance and corruption the British managed not to directly conquer the Sikhs, but they accomplished something even more devestating. They were able to infiltrate Sikh management and compromise the daily 5 Banis. They were able to shorten Choupai Sahib and take off the last 2 pauris claiming that they are optional. The claim is that "In modern times Sikhs don't have the time to read as many banis as they used to". This argument doesn't seem valid being that the last 2 pauris are only 4 lines and take about 15 seconds to read by a familiar practitioner. The fact is that the last 2 pauris have never been optional until recent history. The British influence went to the extent that big decisions were made in Sikh management authorities, and printing presses. Nowadays, it may be difficult to find a Gutka with the entire Chaupai Sahib, and most Sikhs are not even aware that there are 27 pauris.

The British's strategy of 'Divide and Conquer' went further than the shortening of Chaupai Sahib. They made it common practice to abbreviate Anand Sahib during Kirtan Divaan. They also unpopularized Bana. At one point Nihang Singhs were being persecuted by virtue of wearing Bana and "round" turbans. They were perceived as threats to the British infiltration because they were likely to fight back. Anyone wearing Bana and or a round turban would be picked up by British officers and 'taken away'. Another part of the infiltration was the rolling of beards. They made it popular to look western. Rolling the beard became 'smart' and 'professional' looking. Rolling beards had never been practiced in Sikh history until the British Raj. Nihang Singhs used to be a nomadic Gurdwara management group and now they live mostly secluded from mainstream Sikhism and from positions of power. The Dasam Granth used to be in many Gurdwaras (not in place of the SGGS, but in a different space) and now it is mostly seen in Nihang villages and online, not to mention the many debates about its authenticity. Martial aspects of Sikhism have become mostly symbolic in modern times. The overall goal was to make Sikhism as a strictly devotional religion so it would be easier to take control.

The one thing that is very striking about this history is for the first time in Sikh history the Banis have been compromised. Until the British Raj, Sikhs had given their lives to preserve every word of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib and the Siri Dasam Granth. There are many Sikh issues today; lack of leadership, terrorism backlash, womens seva issues. Amongst all issues Sikhs could always go to the Shabad Guru knowing that it was exactly how the Gurus wrote it with their own hands. This is one thing that stands out about Choupai Sahib. Every Sikh knows the importance of the Shabad Guru being preserved. Guru Har Rai, who was so gentle that he couldn't even harm a flower, disowned his own son for changing one word of the Adi Granth. Now a full 2 pauris have been taken out of Sikh daily practice. There are ripe complaints amonst Sikhs that the overall Panth is not united, Sikh leaders are corrupt, Sikh youth are leaving their roots, etc. This could be because some of the fundamental practices have been compromised. Bana, Bani, Simran, and Seva were given by Guru Gobind Singh so that Sikhs could have his blessing and his spirit against all odds. Now Bana is mostly out of practice and Bani has been shortened.

It is important to note that we are not talking about the rearranging of different sections of Banis, but the cutting off of pauris from one continuous Bani. Lets compare it with Rehiras Sahib. Rehiras Sahib as a whole has been rearranged throughout time and depending on which Jetha is promoting which version. Some Nihang versions are much longer than most versions, but no version ends So Purakh before its 5th pauri. We all know that Tav Prasad Savaiye has 10 pauris and Anand Sahib has 40 pauris. To take off the last 2 pauris of Choupai Sahib could be compared to taking off the last 2 pauris of Japji Sahib; ending at the 36th pauri (instead of the full 38) and then reading the Slok. Even in modern times it is difficult to justify this kind of amendment to Guru Gobind Singhs 5 Banis.

http://www.chaupaisahib.com/

Quotes from Sikh Leaders regarding the abbreviated Choupai Sahib

Harbhajan Singh Yogi - "One who recites Chaupai without the Arril lives in pain and unhappiness." (Furmaan Khalsa p.235)

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