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Pira Saadh Sangat please help!

I have a few question about the wearing of the Kirpan. I undarstand once we take Amrit it becomes a part of the ank (body part).

So when we have sex what are we ment to do, and also when we go to sleep.

To help keep my faith and sanchaar I have 2-3inch kirpan which i waer around my neck at all times as a back up.

Am I doing anything wrong what should i realy be doing.

PLEAS HELP THIS SIKH

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Pira Saadh Sangat please help!

I have a few question about the wearing of the Kirpan. I undarstand once we take Amrit it becomes a part of the ank (body part).

So when we have sex what are we ment to do, and also when we go to sleep.

To help keep my faith and sanchaar I have 2-3inch kirpan which i waer around my neck at all times as a back up.

Am I doing anything wrong what should i realy be doing.

PLEAS HELP THIS SIKH

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I Take it NO one wants to help this Sikh or its a touchy subject and no one ones to talk about it.

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I am not the right person to reply to this message being a non-amritdhari (yet), but I can tell you what I know, you cannot seperate kakkars from your body while sleeping. If you are going to bed, you cannot take your kirpan off and hang it like normal clothes, its a ang of your body after amrit shakkna. About the other question, i know nothing about that sorry! :(

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I am not the right person to reply to this message being a non-amritdhari (yet), but I can tell you what I know, you cannot seperate kakkars from your body while sleeping. If you are going to bed, you cannot take your kirpan off and hang it like normal clothes, its a ang of your body after amrit shakkna. About the other question, i know nothing about that sorry! :(

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Veer ji

Thank u for your responce. I understand that five k's are part of me that's why wear 2 kirpans one is approx 3inch which never has and never will. The bigger kirpan on at time I put under my pillow when I go to sleep.

What I am doing is that wrong?

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Waheguru ji ka khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh

Singh Sahib,

It might be awkward but technically you should ask this question to Singhs performing seva of Punj Piyaras.

Most will consider discussing such questions as indecent because majority of Amritdhari are from very conservative background.

I always sleep wearing my kirpan in gatra but am unmarried.

In my personal opinion what happens in bedroom between husband-wife is very personal,

private and is nobody's concern.

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Waheguru ji ki fateh

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Ok, this is a very controversial subject, but how many people have wondered the answer?

Being married for sometime now, i have to kept a 3" kirpan in my Keski when i sleep(but make sure it accessible if needed), I also I wear a 5", 7" or 9" Kirpan to bed.

Ok now this is the touchy part, you need to make sure that the kirpan does not hit into your partner when you are having intercourse :o . So you where it around the shoulders like a holster and that way the kirpan is strapped around you.

If anyone else has any suggestions, don't be shy to advise as this may help others!

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Not amritdhari and no plans until later in my life to take amrit, but being married for nearly a decade now, this question has always crossed my mind - not just the kirpan, but the kacchera as well - all rather intrusive by my perspective.

So I've asked a couple of people - the conversation took place when both guys were present and somehow we just got round to the subject (conversation started with young people and attitudes to marriage as far as I recall). They were both amritdhari Gursikhs - both married for many years and much older than me.

They both agreed that kakkar are inseperable from the body - however both agreed that what privately occurs between married couples in this respect, should be without guilt, and they reckon that includes placing kakkar aside, within reach.

Personally do what you and your wife feel most comfortable with - probably the reason that this is not addressed directly in Sikhi, unlike in Islam, is not out of conservatism, but that it is your private business.

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but arent the kakkars suppose to be wif ya all the time?...

irno...don't want to really go in to detail...but how about placing kirpan and what not in ur dastar...

but kachera...can u take it off??

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Not amritdhari and no plans until later in my life to take amrit, but being married for nearly a decade now, this question has always crossed my mind - not just the kirpan, but the kacchera as well - all rather intrusive by my perspective.

So I've asked a couple of people - the conversation took place when both guys were present and somehow we just got round to the subject (conversation started with young people and attitudes to marriage as far as I recall). They were both amritdhari Gursikhs - both married for many years and much older than me.

They both agreed that kakkar are inseperable from the body - however both agreed that what privately occurs between married couples in this respect, should be without guilt, and they reckon that includes placing kakkar aside, within reach.

Personally do what you and your wife feel most comfortable with - probably the reason that this is not addressed directly in Sikhi, unlike in Islam, is not out of conservatism, but that it is your private business.

sorry but kakaars should not really be put aside.....

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