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theres a Singh on as a guest ........

he said he tolerate gays but hasnt said if his a faggot or not

he saying if someone is gay/lezzie its cos of past karma. i dont think he his.

ford capril - i find your posts and thinking so narrow minded. 'faggot' or not = id love to hear what people actually say about you.

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ford carpi , you can stick head in the sand if its makes you feel better but these issues are out there and happenin. running away from them wont help, but I think that the Singh gave a very good impression of tolerance in Sikhi. Homosexuality has always been here ever since sexuality existed but our viewpoint and expression on it as Sikhs has only just come into play. Christians and hindus have had it for years, and muslims in certain countries. Now the turn of the Sikhs is coming.

There was a similiar prog on NETWORK EAST in the early 90s which had a episode on gay asians. A muslim guy said that he would kill his son if he was gay.

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There was a similiar prog on NETWORK EAST in the early 90s which had a episode on gay asians. A muslim guy said that he would kill his son if he was gay.

Fair play to him, only if our people had that anikh in them. Instead we are justifying this filth just to fit into western society. This gay unnatural filth is being influenced on Sikhs from the west, we need to keep away from that bakwas!!!

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There was a similiar prog on NETWORK EAST in the early 90s which had a episode on gay asians. A muslim guy said that he would kill his son if he was gay.

Fair play to him, only if our people had that anikh in them. Instead we are justifying this filth just to fit into western society. This gay unnatural filth is being influenced on Sikhs from the west, we need to keep away from that bakwas!!!

Ive only come across puffters in the work place. 2 were really camp acted camp and femanine.

1 was normal.

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Gay??? Western society??? Go back to school ! Did homosexuality not exist in the 3 yiugs in india/bharat prior to this yug?

westren society is well-behind the asian society's when it comes to practising homosexuality, and sexuality for that matter.

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If gay means you like the same sex, and straight means you like the opposite sex, well personally I think you should be neither. If you are straight you are just as bad as being gay, because you have kaam. Im not saying you shouldn't get married, but being attracted to the same or the other sex is just the same. You have a lust, you have a desire. You should only like the person you are married too, if not married then everyone you look at should be like family. How can you be straight and look at all people of the opposite gender as if they are family? In the same way it is just as bad as being gay. Because you have to look at family as if they are something else.

If your straight you desire the opposite sex, if you are gay you desire the same sex. A sikh should not desire either, only your wife/husband. But this is different to being straight, since you don't even consider anyone else of the opposite sex, because you are married. But if you say "im married and i'm straight," then that means you could have a wife and you desire women. Women other than your wife. And remember everyone is to be treated like brother, sister, mother father etc, so how can you do this if your straight?

So don't discriminate against the gays, being straight is just as bad. I have gay friends there is nothing wrong with them that isnt wrong with "straight" people anyway. Having any sort of sexuality is wrong, its about procreation not recreation.

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If gay means you like the same sex, and straight means you like the opposite sex, well personally I think you should be neither. If you are straight you are just as bad as being gay, because you have kaam. Im not saying you shouldn't get married, but being attracted to the same or the other sex is just the same. You have a lust, you have a desire. You should only like the person you are married too, if not married then everyone you look at should be like family. How can you be straight and look at all people of the opposite gender as if they are family? In the same way it is just as bad as being gay. Because you have to look at family as if they are something else.

If your straight you desire the opposite sex, if you are gay you desire the same sex. A sikh should not desire either, only your wife/husband. But this is different to being straight, since you don't even consider anyone else of the opposite sex, because you are married. But if you say "im married and i'm straight," then that means you could have a wife and you desire women. Women other than your wife. And remember everyone is to be treated like brother, sister, mother father etc, so how can you do this if your straight?

So don't discriminate against the gays, being straight is just as bad. I have gay friends there is nothing wrong with them that isnt wrong with "straight" people anyway. Having any sort of sexuality is wrong, its about procreation not recreation.

Whats wrong with being attracted to the opposite sex it’s natural, more natural than being attracted to the same sex!

Anyway how can anyone not be attracted to anyone (as long as its opposite), if you don’t it means you have no hormones or testosterone, its impossible.

What is impossible is the way you carry yourself and behave in front and with people of the opposite sex.

How do you explain men ejaculating in their sleep??? They have no control over this but it happens.

As for gays is unnatural and it’s mostly them that have STDS.

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Whats wrong with being attracted to the opposite sex it's natural, more natural than being attracted to the same sex!

The opposite sex are our sisters, mothers, aunties, so it would be like incest. Hence it is as bad as gay.

Anyway how can anyone not be attracted to anyone (as long as its opposite), if you don't it means you have no hormones or testosterone, its impossible.

The only was is by Guru ji's grace. And you can control your hormones. If you stop using it in a sexual way, you find your hair will get tougher, your bones will thicken, you will start to get taller, your hormones will be used in a proper way. You energy levels rise, like when you are a little kid. Also when you are a little kid you have little testosterone, but it is still possible for you to have these "urges/desires" So its got nothing to do with it. Your hormones and testosterone, will balance accordingly. It will lower itself down. Having too much of sexual hormones can cause a chemical imbalance in the body.

What is impossible is the way you carry yourself and behave in front and with people of the opposite sex.

How do you explain men ejaculating in their sleep??? They have no control over this but it happens.

The thoughts you think in the day, will also be in your mind when you dream. If you meditate at amrit vela your conscience should become clear, this also making your dreams pure too. If you think dirty during the day, you will surely dream about it at night. Thats how the human body learns. During dream sleep, the things we learned throught out the day, like new skills are sharpened. Thats why when you have good sleep, you remember things better the next day. E.g. say you were learning how to do kick ups with a football, the previous day you could only do 10, then after a good nights sleep you can do about 40-50, it is because your brain makes the calculations and improves your ability during sleep, especially during dream sleep.

As for gays is unnatural and it's mostly them that have STDS.

It is natural for them! They don't choose to be gay, it just happens for them. Some people are born like that, so thats natural for them. Some people just turn gay throughtout their life, its natural. People don't choose to be gay, it just happens for them. As a previous post says its due to previous karma. So why blame them? Why not pray for them instead.

Just because scientists say it is natural does not mean its true. Scientists say, it is natural to masturbate, and it is healthy. So you going to argue over Guru ji with that? Never apply your own intelligence against Gods. The whole world thinks its ok to cut hair, does God? Follow Gods way, don't beleive in what anyone else says. Just cus they say its natural to ejaculate at night, what kind of BS is this? You think God would want his saints to be doing that? YUCK!

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