Jump to content

Meditation


Guest _confused.com_
 Share

Recommended Posts

Guest _confused.com_

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

Sangat Jio

In Gurbani it says that we need to do meditation etc - does this mean meditation as in siting in one position and japping Naam or is the word meditation used for Japping Naam in general (walking, sititing etc)

Please reply back.

Thankyou in advance

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest shastr

it applies to ur situation.

if ur gristi, then ur not gonna be able to sit there hours after hours just doing bhagati, so in that case, you would do it with every breath, but as u walk around, do ur stuff u gotta do in everyday life. like work, or school or watever it might be.

but on the other hand, if ur a sant mahatma, u wouldnt be running around all day doing worldy stuff, so in that situation, u would sit and get into ur samadhi.

but for most poeple, it would be japing naam as we do our worldy affairs.

"haath pao kar kaam sab, cheet niranjan naal"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

meditation and bhakti two dependent but independent things ... bhakti can be done with every breath ... but not meditation ... meditation is done to force ur body energy upwards and its main target is to open dasam duar ... meditation is one form of bhakti ...

sikhnet.com ... search there about meditation ... listen to yogi ji they have deep understanding of meditation ...

PS- dont meditate while driving ...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Meditation is a remembrance...of someone you love.

Maharaj Ji gave us Bani to tell us the 'nature' of the Lord. Such beautiful nature that by listening to it we can fall in love with the Lord. Maharaj Ji tells us that Akaal Purakh is 'Dayal' 'Daata' 'Maha' 'Barbhoor' 'Uch' 'Rudo' 'Gudo' 'Gehar' 'Gambheer' 'Veparvah' 'Payara' 'Shant' 'Akaal'...

It's our habit that if we like someone's qualities, we think about them all the time. Thats meditation. You meditate on them. Similarly, bhagat jan 'think' about Maharaj Ji all the time, they meditate on him and on his various qualities.

ਆਨੀਲੇ ਕਾਗਦੁ ਕਾਟੀਲੇ ਗੂਡੀ ਆਕਾਸ ਮਧੇ ਭਰਮੀਅਲੇ

aaneelae kaagadh kaatteelae gooddee aakaas madhhae bharameealae ||

The boy takes paper, cuts it and makes a kite, and flies it in the sky.

ਪੰਚ ਜਨਾ ਸਿਉ ਬਾਤ ਬਤਊਆ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਡੋਰੀ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ

panch janaa sio baath bathooaa cheeth s ddoree raakheealae ||1||

Talking with his friends, he still keeps his attention on the kite string. ||1||

ਮਨੁ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮਾ ਬੇਧੀਅਲੇ

man raam naamaa baedhheealae ||

My mind has been pierced by the Name of the Lord,

ਜੈਸੇ ਕਨਿਕ ਕਲਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਮਾਂਡੀਅਲੇ ਰਹਾਉ

jaisae kanik kalaa chith maanddeealae ||1|| rehaao ||

like the goldsmith, whose attention is held by his work. ||1||Pause||

ਆਨੀਲੇ ਕੁੰਭੁ ਭਰਾਈਲੇ ਊਦਕ ਰਾਜ ਕੁਆਰਿ ਪੁਰੰਦਰੀਏ

aaneelae kunbh bharaaeelae oodhak raaj kuaar purandhareeeae ||

The young girl in the city takes a pitcher, and fills it with water.

ਹਸਤ ਬਿਨੋਦ ਬੀਚਾਰ ਕਰਤੀ ਹੈ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਗਾਗਰਿ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ

hasath binodh beechaar karathee hai cheeth s gaagar raakheealae ||2||

She laughs, and plays, and talks with her friends, but she keeps her attention focused on the pitcher of water. ||2||

ਮੰਦਰੁ ਏਕੁ ਦੁਆਰ ਦਸ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਵਨ ਛਾਡੀਅਲੇ

mandhar eaek dhuaar dhas jaa kae goo charaavan shhaaddeealae ||

The cow is let loose, out of the mansion of the ten gates, to graze in the field.

ਪਾਂਚ ਕੋਸ ਪਰ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਵਤ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਬਛਰਾ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ

paanch kos par goo charaavath cheeth s bashharaa raakheealae ||3||

It grazes up to five miles away, but keeps its attention focused on its calf. ||3||

ਕਹਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਤਿਲੋਚਨ ਬਾਲਕੁ ਪਾਲਨ ਪਉਢੀਅਲੇ

kehath naamadhaeo sunahu thilochan baalak paalan poudteealae ||

Says Naam Dayv, listen, O Trilochan: the child is laid down in the cradle.

ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਕਾਜ ਬਿਰੂਧੀ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਬਾਰਿਕ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ

anthar baahar kaaj biroodhhee cheeth s baarik raakheealae ||4||1||

Its mother is at work, inside and outside, but she holds her child in her thoughts. ||4||1||

Maharaj Ji described in this shabad above that how these worldly people were busy doing something else but their 'dhiaan' or their thoughts (concentration) were busy thinking about something/someone else. So even when these people were with others, they were still with that 'thing' they were 'thinking' about.

We must remember God like this. We might be doing something else...but how can this stop you from loving your beloved? You will remember him with every breath escaping your lips... Thats meditation. Thats remembrance...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

Sangat Jio

In Gurbani it says that we need to do meditation etc - does this mean meditation as in siting in one position and japping Naam or is the word meditation used for Japping Naam in general (walking, sititing etc)

Please reply back.

Thankyou in advance

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

I think SImran refers to doing simran with each swas. For this to happen it takes alot of hard work. One must wake up early ( amrit vela) and do Naam Abhyiaas. Eventually by doing early Naam Simran; Naam Simran becomes natural. WHen sitting and standing Naam SImran becomes automatic since the Gurmantar becomes part of the subconscience thus the naam simran goes on automotically. WHen doing worldly affiairs, talking to the others, etc the naam simran continues to flow autmoically. To get to this stage though it takes hard work. AMirt Vela naam SImran is critical, and doing Naam Simran before going to sleep is also important.

The reason why Naam does not become automatic for most of us is that we are too indulged in wordly things. First thing we do when we wake up is think about wordly matters. THis worries, anxiets, hopes become part of our subconscious, when walking and standing these desires still influence the mind. If we woke up and thought about Waaheguru eventually the Gurmantar will becomes part of our conscience. The more naam simran we do sitting down with concentration the less desires/worries we will have that plague the mind and prevent it from doing 24/7 naam simran.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Definitely the Guru Sahibs would be a heavier Scriptures to handle. Dasam Granth is more towards Bir Rass, Guru Gobind Singh showed his Greatness (of course, they would never say this) by separating his own Baania.  And the BIGGEST test of all?? Do we try and read Dasam Granth, Understand n show respect like we do to SGGS? Or... Do we QUESTION it? Guru Gobind Singh Ji is testing us. 
    • My wife will be going for an MRI scan next week but her Kara won’t physically come off.  Is there any way the mri scan can be done with the Kara still on?  The alternative is we will have to try to saw it off before the scan.  
    • was researching this and came back to this thread. Also found an older thread:    
    • Net pay after taxes. If you don't agree, think about this: If you were a trader and started off in China with silk that cost 100 rupees and came to India, and you had to pay total 800 rupees taxes at every small kingdom along the way, and then sold your goods for 1000 rupees, you'd have 100 rupees left, right? If your daswandh is on the gross, that's 100 rupees, meaning you have nothing left. Obviously, you owe only 10% of 100, not 10% of 1000. No, it's 10% before bills and other expenses. These expenses are not your expenses to earn money. They are consumption. If you are a business owner, you take out all expenses, including rent, shop electricity, cost of goods sold, advertising, and government taxes. Whatever is left is your profit and you owe 10% of that.  If you are an employee, you are also entitled to deduct the cost of earning money. That would be government taxes. Everything else is consumption.    
    • No, bro, it's simply not true that no one talks about Simran. Where did you hear that? Swingdon? The entire Sikh world talks about doing Simran, whether it's Maskeen ji, Giani Pinderpal Singh, Giani Kulwant Singh Jawaddi, or Sants. So what are you talking about? Agreed. Agreed. Well, if every bani were exactly the same, then why would Guru ji even write anything after writing Japji Sahib? We should all enjoy all the banis. No, Gurbani tells you to do Simran, but it's not just "the manual". Gurbani itself also has cleansing powers. I'm not saying not to do Simran. Do it. But Gurbani is not merely "the manual". Reading and singing Gurbani is spiritually helpful: ਪ੍ਰਭ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਭਾਖਿਆ ॥  ਗਾਵਹੁ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਪੜਹੁ ਨਿਤ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੈ ਤੂ ਰਾਖਿਆ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ The Lord's Bani and the words are the best utterances. Ever sing hear and recite them, O brother and the Perfect Guru shall save thee. Pause. p611 Here Guru ji shows the importance of both Bani and Naam: ਆਇਓ ਸੁਨਨ ਪੜਨ ਕਉ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿ ਲਗਹਿ ਅਨ ਲਾਲਚਿ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਪਰਾਣੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ The mortal has come to hear and utter Bani. Forgetting the Name thou attached thyself to other desires. Vain is thy life, O mortal. Pause. p1219 Are there any house manuals that say to read and sing the house manual?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use