Ravidassis Seek Sarna’s Arrest

[Azaad]

Agitated members belonging to the Ravidass community burnt effigies of DSGMC president Paramjit Singh Sarna in different parts of the city for the consecutive second day today.

They were protesting against his reported statement in which he announced to provide legal and financial help to the accused in the Vienna firing incident that had occurred on May 24. Dera Sachkhand Ballan chief Sant Nirajan Dass was wounded, whereas his deputy Sant Ramanand succumbed to his injuries on May 25.

Meanwhile, taking a strong exception to Sarna’s statement, convenor of Shri Guru Ravidass Dharam Yudh Morcha Satish Bharti demanded his immediate arrest.

Addressing a meeting of several Ravidas Sabhas, presided over by a retired judge Prem Chand Suman, the Morcha convenor said Sarna had not only hurt the religious sentiments of the Ravidass community, but had also supported the militants. He should be immediately arrested as he tried to create law and order problem in Punjab by giving such an irresponsible statement, he added.

Calcutta for probe into Vienna incident

Amritsar: Manjit Singh Calcutta, a senior Akali leader and chairman, Shiromani Panthic Council, here today urged the Punjab government and the Jathedar, Akal Takht, to probe into the Vienna incident that led to the killing of Sant Ramanand and subsequent rioting in Jalandhar.

He urged them to make the investigations public so that people all over the world could know the actual reason behind the attack.

Calcutta said the Sikh community would not accept disrespect for Guru Granth Sahib. He also hailed the decision of the Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee (DSGMC) to provide legal assistance to the Sikh youths allegedly booked for the attack.

It may be mentioned here that DSGMC chief Paramjit Singh Sarna had stated that the committee would fight a legal battle for the release of Sikh youths, who had been lodged in jails for the alleged attack on the sants in Vienna.

Meanwhile, former MP and president, Bahujan Samaj Morcha, Satnam Singh Kainth criticised the DSGMC chief for his alleged remarks over the Vienna incident.

He claimed that the alleged remarks had resulted in resentment among the community, which reportedly staged a dharna in Jalandhar.

Kainth said Sarna should have restrained himself from issuing such statements that could have adverse impact on the law and order situation in the region.

He claimed that no such acts were held there, adding all communities in the world respect Guru Granth Sahib.

[GuruManeyoGranth]

These guys - whether they be Badals (Akalis) or Sarnas (Congress) - are playing politics with the Panth for their own vote bank. Neither can be trusted nor have they the best interests of the Panth.

Waheguroo

[Hoshiarpuria]

Agitated members belonging to the Ravidass community burnt effigies of DSGMC president Paramjit Singh Sarna in different parts of the city for the consecutive second day today.

They were protesting against his reported statement in which he announced to provide legal and financial help to the accused in the Vienna firing incident that had occurred on May 24. Dera Sachkhand Ballan chief Sant Nirajan Dass was wounded, whereas his deputy Sant Ramanand succumbed to his injuries on May 25.

Meanwhile, taking a strong exception to Sarna's statement, convenor of Shri Guru Ravidass Dharam Yudh Morcha Satish Bharti demanded his immediate arrest.

Addressing a meeting of several Ravidas Sabhas, presided over by a retired judge Prem Chand Suman, the Morcha convenor said Sarna had not only hurt the religious sentiments of the Ravidass community, but had also supported the militants. He should be immediately arrested as he tried to create law and order problem in Punjab by giving such an irresponsible statement, he added.

Calcutta for probe into Vienna incident

Amritsar: Manjit Singh Calcutta, a senior Akali leader and chairman, Shiromani Panthic Council, here today urged the Punjab government and the Jathedar, Akal Takht, to probe into the Vienna incident that led to the killing of Sant Ramanand and subsequent rioting in Jalandhar.

He urged them to make the investigations public so that people all over the world could know the actual reason behind the attack.

Calcutta said the Sikh community would not accept disrespect for Guru Granth Sahib. He also hailed the decision of the Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee (DSGMC) to provide legal assistance to the Sikh youths allegedly booked for the attack.

It may be mentioned here that DSGMC chief Paramjit Singh Sarna had stated that the committee would fight a legal battle for the release of Sikh youths, who had been lodged in jails for the alleged attack on the sants in Vienna.

Meanwhile, former MP and president, Bahujan Samaj Morcha, Satnam Singh Kainth criticised the DSGMC chief for his alleged remarks over the Vienna incident.

He claimed that the alleged remarks had resulted in resentment among the community, which reportedly staged a dharna in Jalandhar.

Kainth said Sarna should have restrained himself from issuing such statements that could have adverse impact on the law and order situation in the region.

He claimed that no such acts were held there, adding all communities in the world respect Guru Granth Sahib.

[Hoshiarpuria]

Well done to Sarna of Dehli Gurdwara Committee !!For too long the Singhs have rotted in Jail without anyone supporting them, shame on the Badal government for spending so much money on the dead Ravidass sant who clearly had no regard for Guru Granth Sahib Ji .

So another excuse for the Ravidass community to burn effigies etc in india, bunch of misguided idiots should realise that the Brahmins hate them more than anybody in the whole universe and they should remain close to the Khalsa.

[BhForce]

Legal representation is a basic hallmark of civilised behaviour. This goes regardless of whether you think the accused is scum.

The whole flop with the lawyers in the case of Kasab, the Bombay Taj accused, where lawyers were pressured not to represent him was ridiculous.

Also, sorry to say, this also goes for people accused of acts against the Sikh nation outside of times of war insofar as possible.

The case of Chandu and the masands was different because we had 6th and 10th Masters present who were antarjami and jani-jan, thereby providing perfect justice.

[Guest jason12]

Well done to Sarna of Dehli Gurdwara Committee !!For too long the Singhs have rotted in Jail without anyone supporting them, shame on the Badal government for spending so much money on the dead Ravidass sant who clearly had no regard for Guru Granth Sahib Ji .

So another excuse for the Ravidass community to burn effigies etc in india, bunch of misguided idiots should realise that the Brahmins hate them more than anybody in the whole universe and they should remain close to the Khalsa.

Singhs rot in jails for their own sick (Sikh) actions. Kiiling of Sant of Dera Ballan is last nail in the coffin of sikhsim as it is practised today. The "Pap Ka Gharra" of sikh fundamentalists is full now. It is time for payback.

Keep on celebrating atrocities committed on you in every age. It is not someone else's doing. it is your own doing. Vipran Ke reet has started showing its colors.

Admin Note: 2nd warning given. Member Under Moderation.

[apnepart2]

edited out of respect for bhagat ravidas, may he bless these fools who bring shame on his name.

[SaRpAnCh]

Well done to Sarna of Dehli Gurdwara Committee !!For too long the Singhs have rotted in Jail without anyone supporting them, shame on the Badal government for spending so much money on the dead Ravidass sant who clearly had no regard for Guru Granth Sahib Ji .

So another excuse for the Ravidass community to burn effigies etc in india, bunch of misguided idiots should realise that the Brahmins hate them more than anybody in the whole universe and they should remain close to the Khalsa.

Singhs rot in jails for their own sick (Sikh) actions. Kiiling of Sant of Dera Ballan is last nail in the coffin of sikhsim as it is practised today. The "Pap Ka Gharra" of sikh fundamentalists is full now. It is time for payback.

Keep on celebrating atrocities committed on you in every age. It is not someone else's doing. it is your own doing. Vipran Ke reet has started showing its colors.

The killing of your Ramanand is the 1st nail in the coffin of your cult along with all others Radhaswami,Lucha Sauda,Namdhari,Noormehli and so on, as the poster said above Bamans hate you lot more than anything but you fools get on your high horse and disrespect Sikhi and Sikhs,on one hand you say you people are being 'pushed' away on the other you lot say oh we hae our own 'religion' so called Ravidassia Ad Dharmi.If you lot continue on your downward spriral of disrespecting the Khalsa Panth you lot will be finished - eliminated ,your Sant openly did beadbi of SGGS Ji Maharaj - an unacceptable act no matter who you are what cult you belong to how so called ''down trodden'' you may be no one gets away with beadbi ,go and fight the Brahmins your real oppressors if your so big and tough instead of starting on Sikhs

Well done to Sarna of Dehli Gurdwara Committee !!For too long the Singhs have rotted in Jail without anyone supporting them, shame on the Badal government for spending so much money on the dead Ravidass sant who clearly had no regard for Guru Granth Sahib Ji .

So another excuse for the Ravidass community to burn effigies etc in india, bunch of misguided idiots should realise that the Brahmins hate them more than anybody in the whole universe and they should remain close to the Khalsa.

Singhs rot in jails for their own sick (Sikh) actions. Kiiling of Sant of Dera Ballan is last nail in the coffin of sikhsim as it is practised today. The "Pap Ka Gharra" of sikh fundamentalists is full now. It is time for payback.

Keep on celebrating atrocities committed on you in every age. It is not someone else's doing. it is your own doing. Vipran Ke reet has started showing its colors.

Its Bipran Kee Reet ,you lot should know about it you carry it out Idol Worship ,Threads and so on in you 'Ad Dharm Panth'

[Guest amar_jkp]

Well done to Sarna of Dehli Gurdwara Committee !!For too long the Singhs have rotted in Jail without anyone supporting them, shame on the Badal government for spending so much money on the dead Ravidass sant who clearly had no regard for Guru Granth Sahib Ji .

So another excuse for the Ravidass community to burn effigies etc in india, bunch of misguided idiots should realise that the Brahmins hate them more than anybody in the whole universe and they should remain close to the Khalsa.

Singhs rot in jails for their own sick (Sikh) actions. Kiiling of Sant of Dera Ballan is last nail in the coffin of sikhsim as it is practised today. The "Pap Ka Gharra" of sikh fundamentalists is full now. It is time for payback.

Keep on celebrating atrocities committed on you in every age. It is not someone else's doing. it is your own doing. Vipran Ke reet has started showing its colors.

Admin Note: 2nd warning given. Member Under Moderation.

So many Fake sikh ids have come up in 2009 mostly Hindus . These Idil worshipper wants to Hijack our forum thats so many their types are joining this forum. BE CAREFUL SINGHO

[Guest jason12]

Well done to Sarna of Dehli Gurdwara Committee !!For too long the Singhs have rotted in Jail without anyone supporting them, shame on the Badal government for spending so much money on the dead Ravidass sant who clearly had no regard for Guru Granth Sahib Ji .

So another excuse for the Ravidass community to burn effigies etc in india, bunch of misguided idiots should realise that the Brahmins hate them more than anybody in the whole universe and they should remain close to the Khalsa.

Singhs rot in jails for their own sick (Sikh) actions. Kiiling of Sant of Dera Ballan is last nail in the coffin of sikhsim as it is practised today. The "Pap Ka Gharra" of sikh fundamentalists is full now. It is time for payback.

Keep on celebrating atrocities committed on you in every age. It is not someone else's doing. it is your own doing. Vipran Ke reet has started showing its colors.

The killing of your Ramanand is the 1st nail in the coffin of your cult along with all others Radhaswami,Lucha Sauda,Namdhari,Noormehli and so on, as the poster said above Bamans hate you lot more than anything but you fools get on your high horse and disrespect Sikhi and Sikhs,on one hand you say you people are being 'pushed' away on the other you lot say oh we hae our own 'religion' so called Ravidassia Ad Dharmi.If you lot continue on your downward spriral of disrespecting the Khalsa Panth you lot will be finished - eliminated ,your Sant openly did beadbi of SGGS Ji Maharaj - an unacceptable act no matter who you are what cult you belong to how so called ''down trodden'' you may be no one gets away with beadbi ,go and fight the Brahmins your real oppressors if your so big and tough instead of starting on Sikhs

Well done to Sarna of Dehli Gurdwara Committee !!For too long the Singhs have rotted in Jail without anyone supporting them, shame on the Badal government for spending so much money on the dead Ravidass sant who clearly had no regard for Guru Granth Sahib Ji .

So another excuse for the Ravidass community to burn effigies etc in india, bunch of misguided idiots should realise that the Brahmins hate them more than anybody in the whole universe and they should remain close to the Khalsa.

Singhs rot in jails for their own sick (Sikh) actions. Kiiling of Sant of Dera Ballan is last nail in the coffin of sikhsim as it is practised today. The "Pap Ka Gharra" of sikh fundamentalists is full now. It is time for payback.

Keep on celebrating atrocities committed on you in every age. It is not someone else's doing. it is your own doing. Vipran Ke reet has started showing its colors.

Its Bipran Kee Reet ,you lot should know about it you carry it out Idol Worship ,Threads and so on in you 'Ad Dharm Panth'

Hoshiarpuria Ji:

Please be happy with your status quo. You people get on a bandwagon and start blaming Sants for everything even though you didn't meet or know them personally. What they did or they didn't preach...you would never know? Your statements are uneducated and self serving only.

It doesn't hurt us Ravidassis that you start blaming Sants of Ballan, Radhasoamis or any other reloigious group. I don't know of any religious group in Punjab which you don't have problems with in Punjab except Christians and Muslims. With Christians, you don't have a choice because your brethren have to live in Western christian countries after committing crimes in India and seek asylim. You try to be in their good books. With muslims, you know they will teach you guys a lesson if you trouble them. Ravidassias, you have messed with, I hope you guys have seen the trailer. If you don't learn, Ravidassias and dalits are all over India while you are not. Your antics put the lives of millions of peaceloving sikhs in danger. You feed into cycle of terrorism, then suffer, cry but never learn. This is hallmark of arrogance and this is what makes religion perish. Hundreds of such religions have perished over millenium and nobody would know about you guys 100 years from now. You will be seen as a blimp on the screen of time where only things that would be remebered are that Nanak had started a doctrine based on peace and equality after learning from Bhagats, Gobind Singh created a militant group for the protection of weak which lateron turned upon itself and was reduced to groups involved in gross criminal activities and was wiped out in time.

Moderator seems to give warnings on anything I write now. Why is it so? Why can't point s be argues? I am not disrespecting GGS or Gurus? If I do that then he has a point but it seems that their digestions is very weak.

The sikhs are already being now kicked out of Austria. All the illegals that had run from India after terrorist crackdown are made to go back. Unfortunately, it hurts innocents also. Ravidassia or addharmis or radhsoamis or any other groups isn't going to disappear but you guys will. They are growing like anything because they are peace loving and peace attracts people. It is your own actions that you suffer gallughara almost every 20-30 years. Why other religious groups don't go through same cycle? Nanak was a pacifist and your 10th guru raised voice against tyranny but he never claimed to be the type of sikh that you are today. He never rejoiced the killings.

For your thick brains, you may want to know that in the 1881 census in India almost 15% of Hindus had registered their religion as khalsa (from delhi alone and they didn't had 5Ks. The rigidity has creeped up later thanks to your religious leader Jarnail Singh Bhinderanwale and your Mr. Tara Singh who had triggerred partition violence during 1947 by tearing up pakistan's flag.

So in nutshell, please be happy with your status quo and let your mindset be guided by your muscle flexing on computer by accusing Saints, killing innocents. Results are already coming through on the killing of innocent saint. Blood of a innocent spilled always creates affect. You are one of the most despised community in Canada and austria has started kicking you out. In India, Guru Granth Sahib has already been taken out. People have stopped buying Guru Granth Sahib. How can your baba be bought for 1100 rupees? In USA, you can buy GGS for $200 dollars. You consider book a living, what if some of your wicked terrorists shoot your baba? But it won't matter because your bab grows old almost every other day, you burn it and a new one is born in a factory somewhere. The point is not to insult you. You have become of laughingstock when you forget that it is bani which is guru not a book. Bani written in Guru Granth Sahib or written on a scrap of peper carries same respect and saints and innocents don't deserve to be killed for bani. Bani doesn't say that.

But you guys all know that. This is what keeps us Ravidassias happy now. We see your tamasha when you people behave like monkeys putting a fire to your own tail and then run amok burning everything else. Please keep it up.