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apologize I cannot offer much advice, for I am against any non-amritdhari having Anand Karaj.

Can you expand on it a little more please?

Yes, sure, very Briefly.

In My Opinion,

Only a Singh (a prince who is baptized by the RehitVaan Panj Pyareh) and a Kaur (a princess who is baptized by the RehitVaan Panj Pyareh) should be Having Anand Karaj. We have made Sikhi into a 'formality' but it is not This! Sikhi is a Dharma! A Lifestyle based on Truth which is Centered Around the Guru. Only Those who Adhere to the Principles of Khalsa Rehit should be having Anand Karaj.

The Singh and Kaur take four Lavaa(n) around the Guru, symbolizing their eternal faith in Guru and The Palace of Guru Only! And They embark on This Life that is Gurmat Centered, together, afresh.

Only Those who have Taken Khande-Pahul by Panj Pyareh, and are Keeping Rehit, should be having Anand Karaj! Anand Karaj is a very important part of the journey of the Aatma! This is a new beginning, a new seed! It has to be planted in Correctly! The new life must be Guru Centered (with Gurus' Rehit). If they are not ready to live in Rehat of Panj Pyareh, they are not ready for Khalsa Anand Karaj; quite simple really.

If they don't believe in Gurmat (The Gurus' Way), then Why Reduce the Beautiful Dharma of Khalsa to a Ritual for their Ego?

All the problems we have now, are because of these 'sikhs'! who killed Khalsa Dharama to accommodate their Manmatas (personal egos).

Anyone can love the Guru, and the Guru Loves All!!! But! Sikh is Sikh. Only They are Sikh, who Walk in the Gurus' Will! (Khande-Pahul Rehit). And They must do it in Prem. And Only Sikh can Have Anand Karaj around Guru Sahib!

Yes. In 'my' Gurdwara/Dharamsala, ONLY Khalsa Anand Karaj Would be Allowed!

There is no need to bring up more points, and counter points, and this and that, and that and this. My Opinion, IS my opinion. I am only responsible for My Own Jeevan, and I will give account in The True Court for Myself.

Chardi Kala!!

(and no, you cannot take four counter-lavaa(n) and have a divorce. so basically, if the person is still alive whom one had Anand Karaj with, then no other Anand Karaj can take Place! And NO you cannot murder them to Have another Anand Karaj!!! Patits Can't Have Anand Karaj Either!!!! Bloody Hell! LOL!!)

Those who had Formal Marriage(s) around Guru Sahib but were not Khande-Pahulieas Rehitdharees at the time, should Take the Panj Pyareh Khande-Pahul Amrit Now and Bring Back the Glory of The Khalsa, and Begin Living Their Life Now as Khalsa RehitDharis! Those who Made mistakes, should correct them now; Those who have the Knowledge; Should Not Make Them!!!

Anand Karaj Should Be Between Singh and Kaur, Only.

And It is Hukam for Sikhs to have Only One Spouse. Period.

Chardi Kala!!!! (again)

True Khalsa WILL Rise!!!

Lets Just be The Best Khalsa We Can Individually (or together, if married – 2 bodies, 1 soul), and Then Collectively Bring Back the Glory of The Khalsa!!

Dhan Dhan Sri GuruGranth Sahib Ji!!!!!

Dhan Dhan Dasam Patshah Bani!!!!!

Dhan Dhan RehitVaan Panj Pyareh, Khande-Pahul Amrit, and Khalsa Rehit!!!!!

Dhan Dhan Bhai Gurdas Ji Bani!!!!!

Dhan Dhan Bhai Nand Lal Singh Bani!!!!!

Dhan Dhan Bhai Gurdas Singh Bani!!!!!

Dhan Dhan Gurus' Raags!!!!! Dhan Dhan Gurus' Instruments!!!!!

Dhan Dhan Seva!!!!! Dhan Dhan Simran!!!!!

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Veerji seems like you dont wana tell anyone, you really need to reflect inside yourself what made you pass that point in your mind with another girl regardless of what you did with her, when you commited to marry someone, married life is a life commitment, perhaps this girl is good for your spirtually.

My own opinon is this girl that this nex girl that kissed you gonna cause your trouble, so be a man, do the responsible thing. Remember your in a relationship its not just about you its also about them. So dont break that girls heart, your old man seems to have it planned, you said your dad would chuck

you out the house, you knew the line you crossed. But okay get it together, move on have some compassion for this girl your marrying. Veerji I believe in redemption and forgivness, so I can forgive you, but can you forgive yourself and move on, you need to understand there is nothing between you 2

except a small moment of lust, everyone has those slips but fix on the bigger relationship with your wife to be you have to be there for your wife in many ways, veerji I won't say anything about kesh or taking amrit but veerji when it comes to sharab this can come inbetween relationships they say in

some punjabi saying that home which has sharab will never have any peace(sukh). So maybe you need to talk with your fiance about your feelings for her, it may seem you don't really like her and maybe your lying to yourself in which case you can't ruin her life or your own or any kids to bes. Get it together veerji

and reflect on what you want, as I said before Only you truly have the answer to your own question. Reflect and Meditate.

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Just a couple more things. Even if a person is non-amritdhari; Please do not do the Bujjer Kureits! These affect the body and soul, long term!! Even if non-amritdhari! a) Please do not commit adultry b) Please do not take alcohol/tobacco/drugs/etc., c) Please do not consume meat, fish, eggs, etc..(no need to argue with me on rehat maryada please) d) please respect your kesh as you walk towards Guru.

Guru Loves All, Still. And, All Love Guru! Lets All Become The Best Khalsa/Sikh We Can!

Dhan Dhan RehitVaan Panj Pyareh, Khande-Pahul Amrit, and Khalsa Rehit!!

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Interesting quote from the movie 'Why did I get married?'

In most cases, especially in relationships, you will only get 80% of

what you NEED and you will hardly get the other 20% that you WANT

in your relationship. There is always another person (man or women)

that you will meet and that will offer you the other 20% which is

lacking in your relationship that you WANT And believe me, 20% looks

really good when you are not getting it at all in your current

relationship.

But the problem is that you will always be tempted to leave that good

80% that you know you have, thinking that you will get something

better with the other 20% that you WANT

But as reality has proven, in most cases, you will always end up with

having the 20% that you WANT and loosing the 80% that you really

NEED and that you already had.

Be careful in deciding between what you WANT and NEED in your life.

Adultery happens when you start looking for what you don't have.

'Wow, this girl in my office is a real looker. But it's not her Wynona

Rider features that got me. I'm crazy about her because she's also

understanding, intelligent, tender - so many things that my spouse is

not'

Somewhere along the way, you'll find a woman or a man who will be

more charming or sensitive. More alluring. More thoughtful. Richer.

Have greater sex appeal. And you will find a woman or man who will

need you and pursue you and go loco over you more than your spouse

ever did.

Because no wife or husband is perfect. Because a spouse will only

have 80% of what you're looking for. So adultery takes place when a

husband or wife looks for the missing 20%. Let's say your wife is

melancholic by nature.

You may find yourself drawn to the pretty clerk who has a cherry

laugh no matter what she says: 'I broke my arm yesterday, Hahahaha .

. . ..’

Or because your wife is a homebody in slippers and pyjamas, smelling

of garlic and fish oil, you may fall for a fresh-smelling young sales

representative that visits your office in a sharp black blazer, high

heels, and a red pencil-cut skirt Or because your husband is the quiet

type, your heart may skip a beat when you meet an old college flame

who has the makings of a talk show host.

But wait! That's only 20% of what you don't have.

Don't throw away the 80% that you already have!

That's not all. Add to your spouse's 80% the 100% that represents all

the years that you have been with each other. The storms you have

weathered together. The unforgettable moments of sadness and joy

as a couple. The many adjustments you have made to love the other.

The wealth of memories that you've accumulated as lovers.

Adultery happens when you start looking for what you don't have.

But faithfulness happens when you start thanking God for what you

already have.

But I'm not just talking about marriage.

I'm talking about life!

About your jobs.

About your friends.

About your children.

About your lifestyles.

Are you like the economy airline passenger that perennially peeks

through the door of the first class cabin, obsessed with what he's

missing? 'They have got more leg room! Oh my, their food is served in

porcelain! Wow, their seats recline at an 80% angle and they've got

personal videos!'

I guarantee you'll be miserable for the entire trip! Don't live your life

like that. Forget about what the world says is first class. Do you know

that there are many first class passengers who are miserable in first

class -- because they are not riding in a private Laser Jet?

The main message???

If you start appreciating what you have right now, wherever you are,

you are first class!

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Vaheguru Ji

Thank you so much for the beard, which keeps "bad" girls away, and "good" girls keep their distance!

Not always (((:|

Meri beard vi hawt, meriyan muchan vi hawt

Meri pagg vi hawt, mera style vi hawt.

train te aunty ne menu maari aakh

paseena aawe menu, mera riha na kakh

aunty kehndi aaja mere kolle behja

menu apni bana le ya mera ho ke rehja

menu aaundi sharam, mein ho gaya shy

aunty kehndi "u r so hip, u r so fly"

aunty ne paye si hot hot kapre

lutt liya menu uhdiyan aadawan uhde nakhre ... lol

uss din mein ardas si kitti

rabba tere vich hi rahe meri preeti

uss din ton mein burqa paya

burqe ne mera saath nibahaya

burqe vich ni aaunda saah bathera

chaar chuffere hanera hi hanera

mukdi gal, beard ne meri help na kitti

mehtab sian chal khaiye desi gheo di tikki.

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OP we humans are bound to make mistakes ...ur are 27 and mature enough to make your own decisions. Good Luck!! Guru Jaani jaan hai .. sabb da bhala karda : )

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and Miss Padda you need to watch your mouth. Don't act like some dumb gangster. Desi banri valeti cheekan : | .. rabb rakha

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Veerji seems like you dont wana tell anyone, you really need to reflect inside yourself what made you pass that point in your mind with another girl regardless of what you did with her, when you commited to marry someone, married life is a life commitment, perhaps this girl is good for your spirtually.

My own opinon is this girl that this nex girl that kissed you gonna cause your trouble, so be a man, do the responsible thing. Remember your in a relationship its not just about you its also about them. So dont break that girls heart, your old man seems to have it planned, you said your dad would chuck

you out the house, you knew the line you crossed. But okay get it together, move on have some compassion for this girl your marrying. Veerji I believe in redemption and forgivness, so I can forgive you, but can you forgive yourself and move on, you need to understand there is nothing between you 2

except a small moment of lust, everyone has those slips but fix on the bigger relationship with your wife to be you have to be there for your wife in many ways, veerji I won't say anything about kesh or taking amrit but veerji when it comes to sharab this can come inbetween relationships they say in

some punjabi saying that home which has sharab will never have any peace(sukh). So maybe you need to talk with your fiance about your feelings for her, it may seem you don't really like her and maybe your lying to yourself in which case you can't ruin her life or your own or any kids to bes. Get it together veerji

and reflect on what you want, as I said before Only you truly have the answer to your own question. Reflect and Meditate.

Thanks for this reply veer ji, i will take this into account, as will I with the other replies posted.

Im so greateful for a great sangat....

thanks again

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Anyone can make a mistake, best thing is to learn from it.

Unless you fear God & practice Dharma (self control) nothing will change.

Drinking and Bad Company always encourages people to sin so first quit these bad habbits.

Unless you fear God and understand the universal law of karma

"What you sow is what you will reap", any discussion and advice is pretty much USELESS.

Sooner or later one has to pay or suffer for their own actions.

Therefore you have to take due initiative.

Erase contact details of the girl from your record or call of your marriage or BE READY TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCE.

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Vaheguru Ji

Thank you so much for the beard, which keeps "bad" girls away, and "good" girls keep their distance!

Not always (((:|

Meri beard vi hawt, meriyan muchan vi hawt

Meri pagg vi hawt, mera style vi hawt.

train te aunty ne menu maari aakh

paseena aawe menu, mera riha na kakh

aunty kehndi aaja mere kolle behja

menu apni bana le ya mera ho ke rehja

menu aaundi sharam, mein ho gaya shy

aunty kehndi "u r so hip, u r so fly"

aunty ne paye si hot hot kapre

lutt liya menu uhdiyan aadawan uhde nakhre ... lol

uss din mein ardas si kitti

rabba tere vich hi rahe meri preeti

uss din ton mein burqa paya

burqe ne mera saath nibahaya

burqe vich ni aaunda saah bathera

chaar chuffere hanera hi hanera

mukdi gal, beard ne meri help na kitti

mehtab sian chal khaiye desi gheo di tikki.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

OP we humans are bound to make mistakes ...ur are 27 and mature enough to make your own decisions. Good Luck!! Guru Jaani jaan hai .. sabb da bhala karda : )

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and Miss Padda you need to watch your mouth. Don't act like some dumb gangster. Desi banri valeti cheekan : | .. rabb rakha

ladies and gentlemen, i present to you...my stalker

idk even know what he said in the last sentence, its in punjabi but some desi sh i dont get ( hey that rhymes )

and dude im not even being gangster ahahah you think that's gangster? where do you live? nunavut? lol

get a life and leave me alone, the OP had no problem with what i said, hes gona get worst from his wife or w.e and again i stand by what i said and to the poster who made that comment about 80 percent /20 percent omg you deserve a standing ovation, best post on here, that was a really good post

and mehtab singh paji i understand what you are getting at but this is kaljug, i think kaam presents itself to anyone, i have seen girls personally trying things on ad men, some fall for it and with guru sahibs kirpa some dont, so you know none of us are safe, but with guru sahibs guidance i hope we all get out of this nasty pit.. and i do wish the OP and his wife the best of luck

wjkk wjkf

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Im not amritdhari although I do i tye a pagh and am very proud of it, and I do drink alocohol and and trim my beard.....I have had no other contact with this girl other than text, iv not called her in the fear of saying and doing the wrong thing again...
Hard Kaur Warriorz bhenji was right, you need to grow up.
and mehtab singh paji i understand what you are getting at but this is kaljug, i think kaam presents itself to anyone, i have seen girls personally trying things on ad men, some fall for it and with guru sahibs kirpa some dont, so you know none of us are safe, but with guru sahibs guidance i hope we all get out of this nasty pit
Hanji bhenji theek keha.

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chal hunn mera version dekh...in bold blue...

Meri beard vi hawt, meriyan muchan vi hawt

Meri pagg vi hawt, mera style vi hawt.

Jaade hawt nah hovi kitay

vajjugi nai ta siddi shot

train te aunty ne menu maari aakh

paseena aawe menu, mera riha na kakh

akha kadd ke kehna si tu aunty nu

mataji mai baraabar sawa lakh

aunty kehndi aaja mere kolle behja

menu apni bana le ya mera ho ke rehja

tu kehna si mata ji jaan shaddo meri

aunty fer kendi "putt Sat Sri Akaal ta kehja"

menu aaundi sharam, mein ho gaya shy

aunty kehndi "u r so hip, u r so fly"

aunty tenu pick up kardi si siddi

das menu tu fer kidda jaan shadaayi

aunty ne paye si hot hot kapre

lutt liya menu uhdiyan aadawan uhde nakhre ... lol

edda hee bande fassde putthi janta naal

bann jande vichaare bali de bakre

uss din mein ardas si kitti

rabba tere vich hi rahe meri preeti

changa kita bhraava, hunn dhiyaan aggeo rakhi

neeva hoke turi, te vajaayi naa seeti

uss din ton mein burqa paya

burqe ne mera saath nibahaya

par jad jana si tu restroom vartan

fer ladies vaale da chakkar lavaya??

burqe vich ni aaunda saah bathera

chaar chuffere hanera hi hanera

dumm ghuttju tera, har velle lagge raat

laah shadd burqa ta dekh savera

mukdi gal, beard ne meri help na kitti

mehtab sian chal khaiye desi gheo di tikki.

eh tere karam ne, je help nai mili

bina tomato ketchup ton teri tikki baahli fikki

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After depicting their ridicule of his planned campaign they left him, yet despite this failure, on Ahmed’s part, he still managed to raise a detachment of Mujhaideen warriors who being hot-blooded and head strong readily agreed to attack Sikh domains. Led by Ahmed they succeeded in attacking a few Sikh territories but were mostly beaten back, which subsequently lowered their morale and provoked no reaction from the Khalsa border forces. Ahmed on seeing this and after conferencing with his accomplices, including Shah Ismail the grandson of Shah Waliulah of Delhi, decided on a new course of action. He adopted a nomadic agenda and continually traveled from one province frontier to it’s neighbor until ultimately he set foot in Balakot in 1831 A.D. Foregoing all militaristic and rational notions, Ahmed’s strategy was to engage the Sikh in the mountains of Balakot, annihilate them and conquer neighboring Kashmir; another extended domain of Ranjit Singh’s regional fiefdom. “I am in the mountains of Pakhli (name of the area). The people here have welcomed us with warmth and hospitality and have given us a place to stay. They have also promised to support us in the jihad. For the time being, I am camped in the town of Balakot, which is located in the (river) Kunhar pass. The army of the infidels [kuffars] is camped not too far from us. Since Balakot is located at a secure place (surrounded by hills and bounded by the river), God willing, the infidels will not be able to reach us. Of course, we may choose to advance and enter into a battle at our own initiative. And this we intend to do in the next two or three days. With the help of God, we will be victorious. If we win this battle, and, God willing, we will, then we will occupy all the land alongside the Jehlum River including the Kingdom of Kashmir. Please pray, day and night, for our victory.” -Syed Ahmad’s letter to an accomplice. Hari Singh Nalwa, the lion-shredder, was the viceroy and commander-in-chief of the Punjab territories encircling Balakot. An intelligent and fearsome general Hari Singh commanded his main captain Sher Singh to encircle Balakot and move a battalion of the Khalsa forces to Muzaffarabad. A few companies also surrounded Mitti Kot, the mountainous terrain encircling Ahmed’s forces. Ahmed after surveying the battlefield had it flooded to encumber the attacking Khalsa forces. Headlong he fell into the elaborate trap planned by his foes, the Khalsa nerve-center had easily maneuvered it’s foe into the very position the latter had wanted to encumber the Khalsa in. On the days catalyzing in commencement of the battle a mujhaideen foolishly charged the Khalsa companies keeping him under surveillance. He became encumbered by the very mud which Ahmed had planned to annihilate the Khalsa opposition in. Khalsa snipers soon finished him off via their bullets. Realizing that his elaborate trap had been exposed, with the crack of dawn Ahmed ordered a headlong charge into the Khalsa forces. Discarding all caution the mujhaideen vainly charged the joyous Khalsa who readily clashed with it. Amongst cries of Allah, and Waheguru a bloody slaughter commenced in which the mujhaideen were rapidly dispatched to their resting regions. It is believed that 1300 mujhaideen blindly lost their lives that fateful day, with the Khalsa receiving only a few casualties. The first indigenous sub-continental jihad met it’s demise in a bloody fashion.  
    • The conspiracy stuff is fun but you tend to get drawn into rabbit holes that may have been setup as deliberate dead ends. An outsider who doesn't have any of the contacts and connections has no choice but to stick to observable phenomena as dull and unexciting as it may be. Even I still have my doubts about some of the loopy, dark tales and innuendo that I hear, because there's no actual way of proving any of it. Plus, there's always a danger of seeing a conspiracy where there isn't one. Losing touch with reality makes a person useless to any serious pursuit of the truth. The system may be rigged, but sometimes these devils do make mistakes, and that's the perfect opportunity to exploit those missteps.
    • ssp gobind ram was notorious for treating the wives and sisters of the singhs really bad, i dnt even want to write what he used to do to them.    This rapist is called a martyr on the punjab police website  he was blown up by karkhu singhs in his car       any1 know who blew him up?  cnt find the name ...
    • very true bro, when talking about Punjab 80s 90s we often forget about the sacrifices the women made. Iv read some horrific stories of humiliation and torture they went through.
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