So Called Meeting To Protest Calender

[Inder Singh]

There is an ad running in Ajit newspaper regarding a meeting in UK to protest against amendments in Nanakshahi calender.

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There many names of individuals and those include Jaswant Singh Thekedar, Punjab radio, Satnam babbar, Gurdip pardesi etc. By reading these names it seems that meeting is anti panthic. Their purpose is to oppose akal takhat decision.

[akjbabbar]

i didint realise that sant samaj or sgpc was the whole panth.

since Baba Dhumma has got the changes he wanted to the calendar he seems to have stopped his outspoken remarks against badal

amazing how easily our so called baba/bhramgiani are bought out by badal

can you list all the "PANTHIC jathebandia" that were happy with the calendar?

[Inder Singh]

I have done some study about the background of Nanakshahi calender. It was imposed on panth by clever manipulations of Gurtej when he was heading IOSS.

This was a carbon copy of Indian civil calender that had been brought out by Indian Govt. in 1959.Indian Govt had done some additions to Hindu saka calender by introduction of gregory calender. Purewal gave that to sikhs by adding name of Nanakshahi.

He gave sikhs a solar calender. That was a grave mistake.No religion on earth follow solar calender for its religious holidays.

Now the calender has been modified and accepted by akal takhat. Those who oppose this mainly have one agenda and that is to oppose akal takhat.

[khalistan_zindabaad]

Fateh,

So theres a conference at Singh Sinbha Coventry tommorow about Nanakshahi Calender - Thats whats being advertised on SikhChannel and in the Papers, HOWEVER Punjab Radio is saying its also about Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Jee (Punjab Radio is Anti Dasam Granth Sahib Jee and Anti Gurmat and Khalsa Panth)

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The Names included in the advertisement include:-

Jaswant Singh Takhedar - Dodgy to the max.com

Punjab Radio - Anti Dasam Granth, anti everything

Satnam Singh Babbar - Supporter of Darshan Singh Ragi - Apparent Babbar Khalsa Rep, even though Babbar Khalsa REAL GURSIKHS WERE AGAINST THE RAGI

Manmohan Singh - Dal Khalsa

What a joke, your calling it panthic, alot of the people that are attending in your jathedars lists are not even Gursikhs but government touts.

An incident narrated by Babbar Khalsa International Deputy-Chief Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar stands out. Bhai Sahib was the main liaison between the Jathedars and the BKI leadership. During the late 1980s, Bhai Sulakhan Singh had made a surprise visit to the residence where Ragi Darshan Singh was staying.

Babbar Khalsa Deputy Chief Sulakhan Singh Babbar

had chastised the Ragi for violating Sikh Maryada

When Bhai Sulakhan Singh entered the Ragi’s residence he discovered that the Ragi was in the middle of a meal that included objectionable items, including eggs and omlet. Being a Rahitvaan Singh Bhai Sulakhan Singh immediately scolded the Ragi for being an Akal Takht Jathedar and violating the Sikh code of conduct. The Ragi defended the consumption of meat and stated they were considered Jhatka and thus allowed by the Panth. Bhai Sulakhan Singh further scolded him for making up such excuses, and for betraying the sacred position of the Takht, and stated this would be the last time he and the BKI organization would communicate with him.

Bhai Sulakhan Singh immediately left the Ragi’s residence in disgust, and avowed that no members of BKI would ever keep any communications with Ragi or recognize him as a Jathedar since he had violated Sikh Rahit Maryada. Babbar Khalsa Singhs were known for their strict rahit, and would not allow anybody to enter the organization who was lax in the Sikh code of conduct. The organization believed that a Sikh who could not stay true to his Guru and His Rahit, would not stay true to the Sikh Nation and it's cause.

Interestingly, over the years further information has come out about the offensive dietary habits and shady morals of the Ragi, including the consumption of alcohol. Now he is often referred to as a "ਸ਼ਰਾਬੀ-ਕਬਾਬੀ ਜਥੇਦਾਰ" due to such transgressions.

One can only wonder how a man who had no commitment and devotion for the Panth, and lacked basic Rahit of Sikhi could hold such a position in the Sikh nation? There is no question that the Ragi was unfit to lead the Sikhs during those turbulent times. So why was a man who has no religious or Panthic loyalty installed at the Sikhs’ apex Takht? Perhaps it was for a different cause - to undermine the Sikh leadership of that time, and create chaos in the masses. Isn’t that what the Ragi is doing now? Undermining the Sikh leadership and creating chaos?

While determined GurSikhs sacrificed their lives for the Panth at that time, selfish individuals such as Ragi used the opportunity to gain personal wealth and fame, and continue to cause harm to the Nation. It is due to the traitorous actions of such people that the Sikhs are in this current state.

The echoes of the warnings given by the great Shaheeds Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal and Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar are as relevant as they were two decades ago. The question is - are we listening?

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[Guest PunjabSingh]

The only people who are supporting the amended Nanakshahi calendar in Punjab are Badal,SGPC,Dhumma,RSS.

Outside Punjab we dont know.

[s50]

How about going down to the meeting to express you views it would be better wouldn't it, rather than just beating the bush

[S1ngh]

The only people who are supporting the amended Nanakshahi calendar in Punjab are Badal,SGPC,RSS. Outside Punjab we dont know.

It will be nice to see the list of those who are not supporting? (please mention names with not one man running two organizations such as; Missionary college, LDH & Tat Khalsa etc are same)

[Guest PunjabSingh]

The only people who are supporting the amended Nanakshahi calendar in Punjab are Badal,SGPC,RSS. Outside Punjab we dont know.

It will be nice to see the list of those who are not supporting? (please mention names with not one man running two organizations such as; Missionary college, LDH & Tat Khalsa etc are same)

I have mentioned who are supporting.Rest all are not supporting.So keep counting.

[Inder Singh]

Nanakshahi calender was a fraud with sikh. No religion of the world follow solar calender.Purewal made sikhs to follow a solar calender.

It is good that it it is amneded.

For example birthday of Guru Nanak Dev ji falls on full moon.It is foolishness to follow solar calender for this day.

[khalistan_zindabaad]

An incident narrated by Babbar Khalsa International Deputy-Chief Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar stands out. Bhai Sahib was the main liaison between the Jathedars and the BKI leadership. During the late 1980s, Bhai Sulakhan Singh had made a surprise visit to the residence where Ragi Darshan Singh was staying.

Babbar Khalsa Deputy Chief Sulakhan Singh Babbar

had chastised the Ragi for violating Sikh Maryada

When Bhai Sulakhan Singh entered the Ragi’s residence he discovered that the Ragi was in the middle of a meal that included objectionable items, including eggs and omlet. Being a Rahitvaan Singh Bhai Sulakhan Singh immediately scolded the Ragi for being an Akal Takht Jathedar and violating the Sikh code of conduct. The Ragi defended the consumption of meat and stated they were considered Jhatka and thus allowed by the Panth. Bhai Sulakhan Singh further scolded him for making up such excuses, and for betraying the sacred position of the Takht, and stated this would be the last time he and the BKI organization would communicate with him.

Bhai Sulakhan Singh immediately left the Ragi’s residence in disgust, and avowed that no members of BKI would ever keep any communications with Ragi or recognize him as a Jathedar since he had violated Sikh Rahit Maryada. Babbar Khalsa Singhs were known for their strict rahit, and would not allow anybody to enter the organization who was lax in the Sikh code of conduct. The organization believed that a Sikh who could not stay true to his Guru and His Rahit, would not stay true to the Sikh Nation and it's cause.

Interestingly, over the years further information has come out about the offensive dietary habits and shady morals of the Ragi, including the consumption of alcohol. Now he is often referred to as a "ਸ਼ਰਾਬੀ-ਕਬਾਬੀ ਜਥੇਦਾਰ" due to such transgressions.

One can only wonder how a man who had no commitment and devotion for the Panth, and lacked basic Rahit of Sikhi could hold such a position in the Sikh nation? There is no question that the Ragi was unfit to lead the Sikhs during those turbulent times. So why was a man who has no religious or Panthic loyalty installed at the Sikhs’ apex Takht? Perhaps it was for a different cause - to undermine the Sikh leadership of that time, and create chaos in the masses. Isn’t that what the Ragi is doing now? Undermining the Sikh leadership and creating chaos?

While determined GurSikhs sacrificed their lives for the Panth at that time, selfish individuals such as Ragi used the opportunity to gain personal wealth and fame, and continue to cause harm to the Nation. It is due to the traitorous actions of such people that the Sikhs are in this current state.

The echoes of the warnings given by the great Shaheeds Baba Gurbachan Singh Manochahal and Bhai Sulakhan Singh Babbar are as relevant as they were two decades ago. The question is - are we listening?

Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

So why are so called panthic babbars associating with him? why are we having meetings with punjab radio and tekhedar?