Suleman The Pret/Bhoot

[Prabhs_Sidana]

Sangat Jio,

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Today I came across an interesting video that was purely related to my family. Since Childhood I am listening it. Today I googled and found this reference on sikhsangat.com. For the reference of the readers please allow me to copy the content from the link mentioned below.

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In late 1960's, this suleman ghost from iran came in some kid in india. He was buried ages ago in india before guroo's time. Kid was playin around and happen to piss on his "grave". Soul didnt get mukhti and so evil soul went inside that little boy. One day, baba ishar singh ji maharaj was doing his divan and boy came and start beggin for help (in that phase evil soul was in absence) .. sant ji told him to come back later. Next morning, he came again and he talked with Sikh Sangat. This whole conversation was recorded in the tape between muslim ghost and sikh sangat.He talks about life after death.

One of sikh saints- baba ishar singh ji rara sahib freed his soul from evil jaun (not mukkhti) after asking couple's who werent havin kids. so baba ji asked the couple if they can have the soul since they werent havin kids. so they

replied "satbachan" .. this is how that soul got freed and transmit into the new born fetus. Baba ji said now this is the best i can do for you. You can be mukht from this birth and dead cycles by urself. I have given you again the human life (munukhi jevan) by freein from you praiet jaun(evil spirit life cycle).

This tape itself changed thousands of lives and brought people close and closer to gurbani..

The tape is in urdu. It may sound too good to be true. But there were

my relatives who were there that time along with sangat in hundred's...while someone had that tape recorder that day and recorded the convo..

Also, attempt is not make you beleive in this tape (If its true or

not) attempt is put something infront of the sangat where their

state of life/mind can be changed.

Read in the book "pret kiton devte" by the Hapur Mahapursh - they were there when suleman first came.

Suleman was a pir and saw his daughter and a sadhu together romantically while he was in samaadhi and got angry and went looking for the sadhu to kill him. He couldnt find the sadhu and when he got home he burnt his daughter and a short while later his wife died of grief.

then he started doing bad things for money as he had ridhia sidhia.

after he died he was taken by jamdoot to dharamrai - took one year, beating him all the way. He describes what dharamrai looks like - 'beard white like the sun, skin red like molten copper'. Dharamraja tells him he has to go to kunbi narak until he learns his lesson, and then has to be a pret for a thousand years.

Suleman asks how he will get mukti - Dharamrai says that God will come to earth in the form of 10 Gurus, after some time when Sulemans sentence is finished there will sant from Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji' Khalsa Panth in Rara Sahib who will give him mukti.

Then he asks Dharamrai where the sadhu who slept with his daughter is as he wants revenge. Dharamrai says that he will be a boy called manmohan singh and you will recognise him when you see him. You can beat him, but you cant kill him, he will lead you to Sant Isher Singh.

Suleman says he met Guru Nanak Dev Ji in mecca medina, where he was told he had to do what Dharamraja told him. He also says that he met Guru Gobind Singh Ji but not in detail - he was questioned by someone and suleman answered "I have already told you I met him."

Suleman says that people used to to pooja at his grave (muslims), and one day a boy urinated on the grave, suleman looked at him and recognised the sadhu he has been wiating for. He started attacking him, until he remembered Dharamrajas word, and let him go, when the boy became uncoinscious. The villagers quickly came and got him, doctors found nothing wrong - didnt know what had happened.

At first he cam to Hapur in someone elses body and then started speakin in manmohan singh, who was in Sant Maharaji's sangat.

Sant Maharaji found someone to have suleman as a baby that both suleman and the family agreed to and suleman went. First he refused to go to someones house coz they were rich, then when he agreed to this family he said that he would go but wouldnt sell newsparers ( that was his father to be's work)

A few weeks later Suleman turned up at Rara Sahib again, Maharaji asked him why he broke his word, Suleman said he didnt break it - it takes six months for the human to form and then he will go back because the pain was too much in the womb - written in Anand Sahib paat as well (mata ke udar meh pratipal kare).

Maharaji said ok, Suleman took Manmohans singhs body again and started living in rara sahib sangat as sevadar.

This is when one of those recordings was made that is on the net. This was made by balwant singh, and the transcript is also in the book.

This conversation you've heard on the recording. He seems a nice enough guy

7 months later Suleman was still there, Maharaji called him and again asked why he broke his word, Suleman said he was sorry, but wanted see Maharajis birthday before he went. Maharaji said no - the baby was ready.

Suleman replied that Mahraji could do anything, and that he could the delay the birth, Maharaji agreed.

11 months after his mother got pregnant, Suleman was born, after Maharaji refused another extension - saying it would to painful for the mother to wait any longer. He left his nishan on manmohan singh - his tongue was all spotty.

For 4 years after he was born Suleman could remember all that had happened to him - he also described what kunbi narak was like and what people had to do - some people were being burnt again and again - didnt really understand that bit coz his urdu is strange.

Theres a couple other stories about prets and how they got mukti through saptah paat, and extracts from Gurbani about pret/bhoot etc.

He described how prets possess people - 'like how tissue sticks to sweat on a body, the pret envelopes the human'. Prets are attracted to the smell given off by people who eat meat, eggs and drink alcohol, because their food is blood and meat - which they eat through animals.

Suleman is now gurdeep singh who lives in New York as suleman himself perdicted his pre-odained destiny when he was prait told the sangat upon questioning that if he will go abroad, he replied in urdu- es janam mein nahi par agale janam mein zaroor jaangaie.

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Sulemam the Bhoot.. Link...

So I would like to share my views that my Uncle (Actually my Father's Mama Ji) was a religious person since his childhood and remained bachelor for his complete life.

Veer Jio, He was taken to Sant Ji by my grandfather and he got rid off that pret with Sant ji's blessing.

And to your surprise that Uncle was also reincarnated after his death and it was also published in some newspaper.

I can provide more proofs to sangat about this story but my main motive is to prove that Sant Isher Singh Ji was truly a Great MahaPurakh as some of them doubted on it.

but according to Gurbani - Kai Kot Bhoot Pret Sukar Mrigach.

[gurdssingh]

I have upmost satkaar for Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji but please I don't understand the story fully. Please read http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/audio/Katha/Sant%20Isher%20Singh%20Ji%20(Rara%20Sahib)/Exorcism%20of%20Suleman%20Ghost/Reincarnation_of_a_ghost_ENG.pdf and then if like the other topics this is locked please PM me. As that source is published by Baba Ji's folllowers and it is full of inaccuracies. Like Suleman (when alive) came with Nadir Shah- then how did he met even one of the Guru Ji's. Suleman in Manmohan Singh went all across India like even Calcutta - what alone as a kid??? The dates don't tally and also it states Baba Ji passed away in Lnodon, I thought it was Wolverhampton correct me if I am wrong. Unless they meant London as in Engerland.

Please utmost respect for Baba ji and all his seva but why please Baba Ji forgive me for any nindiya. OK there are the recordings but most the links don't work except for youtube and gurbaniupdesh I have a hard time fully understanding punjabi so urdu is not my strong point but will get my missus who gets hindi which is like urdu to translate. The only thing is i listened to a bit and understood it why wouldn't suleman pir speak in medevial urdu which would be totally different. E.g. Medevial English is so different to todays english, i.e. shakesphere. Also the Punjabi of the guru ji's gurbani (the parts which are in punjabi) are in a different type of punjabi too todays.

Please forgive me for offending you and your beliefs but I suppose unless you actually witness something you need prove. So SORRY.

PLEASE I HAVE THE UPMOST RESPECT FOR BABA JI AND OTHER MAHAPURSH. I AM NOT CALLING HIM A FRAUD PLEASE NOTE THAT.

[Prabhs_Sidana]

Veer Jio,

Thee is no question about it because this is some thing that happened within my family. The Person whom Suleman had claimed was my Grandmother's real brother. He used to come and stay with my Grandpa's family. Manmohan Singh's full name was Manmohan Singh Ishpujani. Moreover they were 8 bothers and sisters, These are the things that even the Mahapurakh's followers even didn't mentioned and Moreover, when he was taken to Mahapurakh, he was not a kid, He was around 22-26 years of age and his other brothers are still alive. Yet other facts about Baba ji's Sewak I cannot state anything b'coz Suleman mentioned only that Baba Ji will leave his Panj Bhutak Sarir In foreign but didn't gave any specific figures.

Veer Ji , I know several other things about him, that's why I say that it is 100% true. if more facts and explanation are needed then I'll surely get back to you.

GurFateh Ji....

I have upmost satkaar for Sant Baba Isher Singh Ji but please I don't understand the story fully. Please read http://www.rajkarega...a_ghost_ENG.pdf and then if like the other topics this is locked please PM me. As that source is published by Baba Ji's folllowers and it is full of inaccuracies. Like Suleman (when alive) came with Nadir Shah- then how did he met even one of the Guru Ji's. Suleman in Manmohan Singh went all across India like even Calcutta - what alone as a kid??? The dates don't tally and also it states Baba Ji passed away in Lnodon, I thought it was Wolverhampton correct me if I am wrong. Unless they meant London as in Engerland.

Please utmost respect for Baba ji and all his seva but why please Baba Ji forgive me for any nindiya. OK there are the recordings but most the links don't work except for youtube and gurbaniupdesh I have a hard time fully understanding punjabi so urdu is not my strong point but will get my missus who gets hindi which is like urdu to translate. The only thing is i listened to a bit and understood it why wouldn't suleman pir speak in medevial urdu which would be totally different. E.g. Medevial English is so different to todays english, i.e. shakesphere. Also the Punjabi of the guru ji's gurbani (the parts which are in punjabi) are in a different type of punjabi too todays.

Please forgive me for offending you and your beliefs but I suppose unless you actually witness something you need prove. So SORRY.

PLEASE I HAVE THE UPMOST RESPECT FOR BABA JI AND OTHER MAHAPURSH. I AM NOT CALLING HIM A FRAUD PLEASE NOTE THAT.

[S1ngh]

Whether the Bhoot/Pret Exists or Not???

Bhoot/pret is also considered as one joon out of the 84 lakh. I have no doubt on suleman da ghost incident but however we should not worry much about bhoo/pret stuff but instead follow the footsteps of our guru sahib ji.

[Prabhs_Sidana]

Exactly Veer Ji,

One who does / Recites JapJi Sahib, No bhoot pret can worry him. As it is the blessing of Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji. Once when there was a dewan in Guru Gobind Singh ji, one sikh started jumping and doing abnormal gestures, then Guru ji replied that He hasn't done JapJi Sahib's Path today, that's why he's facing these odd time, else a pret has no power to overcome a sikh immortality .

Bhoot/pret is also considered as one joon out of the 84 lakh. I have no doubt on suleman da ghost incident but however we should not worry much about bhoo/pret stuff but instead follow the footsteps of our guru sahib ji.