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Ques.: Is Bhangra against Sikh lifestyle?

Once Mkhalsa bhaji told that the word Bhangra comes from Bhang, ie getting high on drugs and dancing... B) if that is true...Bhangra is bad anyway. I will try to check a Punjab Folkculture lexicon that i know someone has...will quote what it says on Bhangra...if it has to do with Bhang or not. i will check it out in a couple of days.

Ok...i get that BAD lyrics will lead to BAD thoughts. so that is against Sikhi. HOWEVER, when i was living in Punjab...once we went to a kind of Punjabi culture stuff at Amritsar University....and there were about 10 Singhs dressed in typical Punjabi cloths on the stage, dancing Bhangra. However it was NOTHING like what we see in pop-music or bollywood movies. They didn't even have any lyrics. Only thing there was, was a Dhol and a "Tunki" or whatever it is called...i am not good at traditional instruments. anyway, they used the instruments to create a kind of mood...it started quite slowly...the dancers started also very calm....slowly the Dhol took over the beat...a faster tune....the dancers started to do a "sit-down-swing-your-legs-thing" that is also done in modern breakdance.. rolleyes.gif .....and like...it got really crazy.

i am not a musician so i can't write down the how they used the music...but i have it in my mind. there was no lyrics...just plan in

strumental dancing. and those guys performed every type of bhangra steps possible.

so i guess original bhangra stuff is nothing like what we see on tv. if you have heard some 'Giddah bolia'.....there is nothing there that is like lusty...it is just family tradition stuff....and bhangra 'original' is like cool also....must like the traditional folk dances of india. it is only after the age of stereos and all...that pop-music has come...people dancing like idiots...drinked up and all. i mean the traditional stuff on weddings was something different. it maybe some Dhadi or Bhats who came in and sang some praises of the family....like family history...and got some payment for it. later on some dancers performed bhangra....bibian joined in with 'Giddan-bolian'. that is what i can imagine the traditional punjabi marriage would have been like.

NOT the stuff that is going around now.....i mean now days there are even "prostitutes" or dancers dancing on pop-music. that is like hell and all the men watching them dance...getting lust and all.

and by the way....that Gursikh wedding LOOKS GREAT!

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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

just cuz youve seen other singhs do it, doesnt mean it isnt wrong. i know enough singhs that do bhangra but theyre wrong for it. the key is it takes you away from god. theres nothing more to it. bhangra is not gurmat.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

nach nach hasehi chalehi sae roe ||

Those who dance and dance and laugh, shall weep on their ultimate departure

y not jaap naam or do some gatka??

put this body to good use

this body is very precious jewel

y waste even a breath on something that will not help u

bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

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Brothers,

I never said Bhangra is 'part of Gurmat' or that Gurmat incourges us to do it. As you said: Naam Simran, Gatka etc are Gurmati ways of life. And if someone does that GREAT!

however i only answared when i read that Bhangra is anti-Gurmat. And the Panktee says that dancing is not good.

Veerji if you can read/understand Punjabi..would you read this Viakhya also:

mÚ 1 ] vwiein cyly ncin gur ] pYr hlwiein Pyrin@ isr ] auif auif rwvw JwtY pwie ] vyKY loku hsY Gir jwie ] rotIAw kwrix pUrih qwl ] Awpu pCwVih DrqI nwil ] gwvin gopIAw gwvin kwn@ ] gwvin sIqw rwjy rwm ] inrBau inrMkwru scu nwmu ] jw kw kIAw sgl jhwnu ] syvk syvih krim cVwau ] iBMnI rYix ijn@w min cwau ] isKI isiKAw gur vIcwir ] ndrI krim lGwey pwir ] kolU crKw ckI cku ] Ql vwroly bhuqu Anµqu ] lwtU mwDwxIAw Angwh ] pMKI BaudIAw lYin n swh ] sUAY cwiV BvweIAih jMq ] nwnk BauidAw gxq n AMq ] bMDn bMiD Bvwey soie ] pieAY ikriq ncY sBu koie ] nic nic hsih clih sy roie ] auif n jwhI isD n hoih ] ncxu kudxu mn kw cwau ] nwnk ijn@ min Bau iqn@w min Bwau ]2] {pMnw 465}

pd ArQ :—vwiein—(swj) vjwauNdy hn [ rwvw—G`tw [ JwtY—Jwty ivc [ pUrih qwl—qwl pUrdy hn, n`cdy hn [ pCwVih—pCwVdy hn, mrdy hn [ gwvin gopIAw—gopIAW (dy sWg bx ky) gwauNdy hn [ krim—(pRBU dI) b^SS nwl [ cVwau—cVHdI klw [ rYix—rwq, izMdgI rUp rwq [ isKI—is`K leI [ gur vIcwir—gurU dI vIcwr dI rwhIN [ Ql vwroly—QlW dy vwroly [ Angwh—AMn g

whux vwly PlHy [ BaudIAw—BMBIrIAW [ bDn bMiD—bMDnW ivc bMnH ky [ pieAY ikriq—kIqy hoey krm dy sMskwrW Anuswr [ roie—ro ky [ auif n jwhI—(iksy au~cI AvsQw au~qy) au~f ky nhIN A`pVdy [

ArQ :—(rwsW ivc) cyly swj vjwauNdy hn, Aqy auhnW cyilAW dy gurU n`cdy hn [ (nwc vyly auh gurU) pYrW ƒ ihlwauNdy hn Aqy isr Pyrdy hn [ (auhnW dy pYrW nwl) au~f au~f ky G`tw auhnW dy isr ivc pYNdw hY, (rws vyKx Awey hoey) lok (auhnW ƒ n`cidAW) vyKdy hn Aqy h`sdy hn (A`KrIN—lok vyKdw hY Aqy h`sdw hY) [ (pr auh rwsDwrIey) rozI dI ^wqr n`cdy hn Aqy Awpxy Awp ƒ Buieé qy mwrdy hn [ gopIAW (dy sWg bx ky) gwauNdy hn, kwnH (dy sWg bx ky) gwauNdy hn, sIqw rwm jI qy hor rwijAW dy sWg bx ky gwauNdy hn [

ijs pRBU dw swrw jgq bxwieAw hoieAw hY, jo infr hY, Akwr-rihq hY Aqy ijs dw nwm sdw At`l hY, aus ƒ (kyvl auhI) syvk ismrdy hn, ijnHW dy AMdr (r`b dI) imhr nwl cVHdI klw hY, ijnHW dy mn ivc (ismrn krn dw) auqSwh hY, auhnW syvkW dI izMdgI-rUp rwq suAwdlI guzrdI hY—ieh is`iKAw ijnHW ny gurU dI m`q duAwrw is`K leI hY, imhr dI nzr vwlw pRBU AwpxI b^SS duAwrw auhnW ƒ sMswr-smuMdr qoN pwr lMGw dyNdw hY [

(n`cx Aqy PyrIAW lYx nwl jIvn dw auDwr nhIN ho skdw, vyKo byAMq pdwrQ qy jIv sdw BONdy rihMdy hn) kohlU, crKw, c`kI, c`k QlW dy byAMq vroly, lwtU, mDwxIAW, PlHy, pMCI, BMBIrIAW jo iek-swhy aufdIAW rihMdIAW hn—ieh sB BONdy rihMdy hn [ sUl au~qy cwVH ky keI jMq BvweINdy hn [ hy nwnk ! BOx vwly jIvW dw AMq nhIN pY skdw [ (iesy qrHW) auh pRBU jIvW ƒ (mwieAw dy) zMjIrW ivc jkV ky BvwauNdw hY, hryk jIv Awpxy kIqy krmW dy sMskwrW Anuswr n`c irhw hY [ jo jIv n`c n`c ky h`sdy hn, auh (AMq ƒ) ro ky (eyQoN) qurdy hn [ (auN\) BI n`cx t`px nwl iksy au~cI AvsQw qy nhIN A`pV jWdy, qy nw hI auh is`D bx jWdy hn [

n`cxw ku`dxw (kyvl) mn dw SOk hY, hy nwnk ! pRym kyvl auhnW dy mn ivc hI hY ijnHW dy mn ivc r`b dw fr hY [2[

This also clears the point you made mellow.gif , but i think these dances are meant to some other kind of 'religious dances' that people used to do. However still the conclusion is somewhat similar.

So is dancing in ANY possible way wrong? what about other pysical activites....like that has jumping etc.

It says 'nachan kudan man kaa chaa-o.' They dance and jump around on the urgings of their minds.

Kudan is jumping....what about sports that having jumping etc.

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