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Debunking The Dasam Granth Controversy – Part I


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Singh Sahib Jathedar Bhai Ranjit Singh is an eminent personality of the Khalsa Panth. His unmatched contributions to the Panth make him one of the most respected Panthik leaders alive today. We are publishing a video interview of Bhai Sahib in which be debunks claims of anti-Panthik bodies about the authenticity of Dasam Granth Sahib. Not too long ago, some mischievous persons tried to defame Singh Sahib for keeping allegiance to anti-Akal Takhat Sahib people but this video explains that Singh Sahib’s stance of the writings of Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s bani and superiority of Akal Takhat Sahib is firm.

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What is the definition of Bani?

If bani is the Guru and the Guru is bani, then doesn't logic dictate that the writings within the Dasam Granth can't be defined as bani as the 'bani' in the Dasam Granth is not considered as Guru?....and if it is considered as Guru...then why isn't the Dasam Granth equal to the Guru Granth Sahib?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Nihungs believe that the Dasam Granth is equal to the Guru Granth, (they refer to the Dasam Granth as Guru Dasam Granth).

That makes sense to me as any bani from any of the Ten Human Guru's is considered as Guru, (hence 'Guru is bani, bani is Guru' makes sense).

I hope someone can clearly and unambiguously clarify this paradigm.

Let me know if this topic can be discussed...not sure if it's allowed...I'd be happy to delete my posts if they are in volilation of any forum rules.

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The video is not about disputing Gurgaddi status of SGGS ji unless we ourselves want to divert the discussion that side. Nihungs also consider SGGS as their Guru.

Nevertheless Dasam Granth is our second most sacred granth.

ਦੁਹੂੰ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਮੈ ਬਾਣੀ ਜੋਈ। ਚੁਨ ਚੁਨ ਕੰਠ ਕਰਹਿ ਨਿਤ ਸੋਈ'। (ਰਹਿਤਨਾਮਾ, ਭਾਈ ਦੇਸਾ ਸਿੰਘ)

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What is the definition of Bani?

If bani is the Guru and the Guru is bani, then doesn't logic dictate that the writings within the Dasam Granth can't be defined as bani as the 'bani' in the Dasam Granth is not considered as Guru?....and if it is considered as Guru...then why isn't the Dasam Granth equal to the Guru Granth Sahib?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Nihungs believe that the Dasam Granth is equal to the Guru Granth, (they refer to the Dasam Granth as Guru Dasam Granth).

That makes sense to me as any bani from any of the Ten Human Guru's is considered as Guru, (hence 'Guru is bani, bani is Guru' makes sense).

I hope someone can clearly and unambiguously clarify this paradigm.

Let me know if this topic can be discussed...not sure if it's allowed...I'd be happy to delete my posts if they are in volilation of any forum rules.

Clarification rest in practicing Sikhi. Here are some questions you should ask yourself when reading Satguru and Dasam Bani Explain how Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj and Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj speak on the aspects of Saint and Soldier. Look at the style Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj is written in and have a look at the style Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj is written in? IS there any difference you see, if so, then what are the differences? Are there different word choices. When Satguru refered to dieties in Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj is it any different from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj. Does Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj refer to different dieties that Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj doesn't refer to at all. If so what is the significance of refering to these dieties which Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj did not? Why is weapons praised in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj? Does Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj have tuks or shabads that praise weapons? If Dasam Bani is not Guru ki Bani in the format you phrased it, then why is it given the status in Amrit Sanchar to finalize the Khalsa Panth? Look up what the true meaning of Kachi Bani is, a place to start looking is Sri Anand Sahib da paat, on the top of my head i think its on ang sung 920.

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Clarification rest in practicing Sikhi. Here are some questions you should ask yourself when reading Satguru and Dasam Bani Explain how Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj and Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj speak on the aspects of Saint and Soldier. Look at the style Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj is written in and have a look at the style Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj is written in? IS there any difference you see, if so, then what are the differences? Are there different word choices. When Satguru refered to dieties in Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj is it any different from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj. Does Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj refer to different dieties that Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj doesn't refer to at all. If so what is the significance of refering to these dieties which Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj did not? Why is weapons praised in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji Maharaj? Does Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj have tuks or shabads that praise weapons? If Dasam Bani is not Guru ki Bani in the format you phrased it, then why is it given the status in Amrit Sanchar to finalize the Khalsa Panth? Look up what the true meaning of Kachi Bani is, a place to start looking is Sri Anand Sahib da paat, on the top of my head i think its on ang sung 920.

clear and unambiguous response?...FAIL

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