Jews And Sikhs

[DalbirSingh]

How and when did this turn into an anti Islamic thread???? WOW

You know it sad when ever we bring up facts it is anti-islam we can't prosecute criminals who are muslims because it is hating islam. Or bring down extremist right wing islamist groups because it is anti islam. If someone raped your sister and you told us how would you like it if we told you oh your anti-islamic and you should respect other religions. When Banda Singh Bahadur fought the mughals he was called anti-islamic what would happen if the sikhs turned around to banda singh and said we should respect other religions and you are anti islam lets let them kidnap all the women of india, rape women and keep putting huge taxes on us, lets let them kill us all.

[DalbirSingh]

This is true. But mutual respect is gained from the Mughals when the warrior spirit was proven by us Sikhs. Because no man wants bloodshed. The Mughal's started to leave us alone when they knew these people are indeed true warriors of god. It's all love from there.

These Europeon invaders sure messed up all things around the globe without a doubt. And I certainly agree with you on the Ego part.

Check this out. It might a little biased.

Mughals didn't leave us alone they tried again and again and failed each time, we lost to the british due to internal disputes such as the dogras and maharaja ranjit singh. The mughals were having problems with other muslim invaders and internal converts giving issues. However they re-appeared and created pakistan and they are still alive in spirit of many people.

[DalbirSingh]

What can sikhs learn from israel

Jews have more to learn from us. We have to learn from everyone, people like Richard Branson. Jews have created a state which is in war, do we really want to be where they are? They can't spread there religion, they are weak in many ways, they are far worse off then you think. Sikhs lack some representation in courts of the world, we have far to go in India and in the countries we reside. Sikhi is to spread we need to spread it in India to the oppressed and the oppressive people, the poor in our own community in india need to be sorted out. I personally think khalistan will do us more bad then good. Look at all the poor people in India, many people don't let them have langar or come into diwans many of our gianis, jathedars do crimes against them. Some workers get raped, our problem in Delhi and Punjab is huge which we allow to be unnoticed. People are chained by fear and by gurmantar you can free yourself of all fears and superstitions.

In 1984 many people made it clear in anandpur resolution we don't want khalistan. Babbar Khalsa were around in sikh riots time but were a minority people became prisoners of thoughts and fears as they still are to uprise. If we get khalistan we will become poor in our own community more then we are at war with pakistan, kashmir and india. Such a small minority, with no army, police force an economy destroyed at shattered. The farms of punjab are not enough to build infrastructure and we already have fall outs due to lack of integration in our own community. We will end up worse then kashmir and afghanistan going from 3rd world to 4th world a new definition, no one will do trade and like chamkaur people will starve. We wouldn't last, it would take one war to destroy us, kill us and inslave us more then we were.

We need to free people from the minds to stand up against enslavement guru nanak taught us how to be free and understand freedom. The slaves from africa rebelled against there masters. They worked together, without knowledge, or ownership people like martin luther king jr lead the way, malcolm x led the way. We need to spread sikhi in india first. We need to move against the brahmins, pandits, the fanatic mullahs, the rss, bjp, congress, people have fears hence are in tyranny when the government is afraid of the people it is a real democracy. We need to free our minds so we don't bow down to these fake people who oppress.

We need to learn from Guru Nanak Dev ji to Guru Gobind Singh...

[DalbirSingh]

Another thing if you were going to ever learn anything from jews it is one thing education pays. The zionist movement was led by literate men who knew what they were doing. Punjab has a high level of illiteracy, what stopped the conversion of hindus to sikhism was gandhi and nehrus intervention into punjab they were highly literate and for there own brahmin authority and hatred for the sikhs with everything such as renouncing the entire hindu faith was something they could not tolerate. Right now we have a very high illiteracy level in punjab, the majority of punjabis in punjab are illiterate. The ones who are, are doing fraud with the illiterate masses. Guru Nanak dev ji gave simple education in teachings babas have always done this even with songs and media, folk stories songs have spread. If we start a tradition in punjab of moral stories things like nursery songs always had deep meanings things that teach how politicians play the people. We can start it by talking to kids or making youtube channels with these stories to give the morals maybe cartoons and animation with punjabi. We need to educate our masses where we have majority of people being phd top level people coming to them for help not the other way round, a nation will come to us itself through soft power. Right now we are loosing punjab is being dilluted we need to resurect honesty and the name of Singhs we need to turn the frown upside down go from people who shout who talk of love.