What is this?

[SeekingTheLight]

A group of us was doing naam simran on an evening last week and a few of us afterwards discussed that during this time when our eyes are closed we feel our heads tilt back slightly as if there is a force.. Has anyone else experienced this and if so what is it?

[SheikhFareed]

This has happened to me when doing simran too. I do not know about group simran but when i was doing alone my head used to tilt back as my concentration increased.

I think it is just because when someone is doing simran they forget about everything and including they forget about there body. so the head falls in to its natural rest position by force of gravity it tilts back

this occurs when someone gets into samadhi state also

[luckysingh99]

SheikFareed ji, you've got the right idea there.

It is more of a relaxed neck !!

You probably thinking it is already relaxed because you're not putting any effort in keeping it upright.

Well, that's because we have become conditioned to keeping it up without realising. All the muscles are engaged in the neck when upright so as to keep it balanced. After someone breaks their neck, then it just rolls down and they have to retrain other muscles to keep it upright- we are lucky because we do it with out any forced effort.

Just think of when a baby is growing in the first 4-6 months, it can't control it's neck at all. Even when seated upright the neck drops, but slowly it conditions to keeping it straight without effort.

-You see, quite easy.

Now, when doing simran and in samadhi fo example, the person is much more attuned into the consciousness and then the brain and mind attachment gets weaker. At these stages then the involuntary automatic muscles begin to switch off and your neck droops or reclines.

In simran the battle is on with the mind, brain and consciousness. The consciuosness tries to free itself and detach whilst the mind will keep pumping thoughts and signals to the brain to get a reaction by trying to distract.

However, if you can train yourself to NOT respond to the thoughts or signals and simply ignore them, then the brain activity starts to diminish and the conscious gets more detached from the brain and mind whilst you get into deeper simran and samadhi.

This is all with the grace of the guru that it happens, although people try to look at it scientifically.

The ability to do it can not be obtained scientifically, it's ALL his doing.

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Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Shrimaan jiyo kirpa karke mujh augan bhare nu v Naam Simran di Vidhi baare ( Kis tarah Waheguru Mantar da Jaap Karna hae, Kis position ch Baithna hae, Dhaun (neck) kis tarah rakhni ha.... aadik.

rab tuhada Bhala kare. Zrur dasyo je...

[SeekingTheLight]

Thanks for the responses..

luckysingh99 ji, can you expand more on samadhi please? I understand what it is but please tell me more..