The Kundalini Yoga crew do it again ! Dancing to Bani !

[Sevadar01]

I'm sorry but this whole argument of the do not know just doesn't hold up. This has now been going on for a while:

This is the latest episode from the Flower Power Crew. Wonder what our Saheeds would make of this ??? :

[Sevadar01]

Shri Guru Granth Sahib instructs us (Ang 158-159, English translation):

The fools perform devotional worship by showing off,

they dance and dance and jump all around they only suffer in terrible pain,

by dancing, and jumping, devotional worship is not performed,

but one who dies (gets rid of ego) in word of the Sabad , obtains devotional worship.

[N30S1NGH]

Here is my personal take on it -

As long as -sri guru granth sahib ji maharaj saroop is not present and as long as- natural spiritual trance/vibrations come out "naturally" in form of movements/dancing from gurbani sung in western style and as long as - they don't make this as daily habit as gurmat is vismaad but also sehaj marg is all about striking a right balance.....i don't see any harm..if it helps them connect to divine through..thats fine...we need small doses/flavour of sufi sikhi in the panth (as its always been there- udasi, nanaksar, sevapanthis), as well to balance things- too much fascism not enough love..!!

[Sevadar01]

Here is my personal take on it -

As long as -sri guru granth sahib ji maharaj saroop is not present and as long as- natural spiritual trance/vibrations come out "naturally" in form of movements/dancing from gurbani sung in western style and as long as - they don't make this as daily habit as gurmat is vismaad but also sehaj marg is all about striking a right balance.....i don't see any harm..if it helps them connect to divine through..thats fine...we need small doses/flavour of sufi sikhi in the panth (as its always been there- udasi, nanaksar, sevapanthis), as well to balance things- too much fascism not enough love..!!

Paa Ji, i am not making any personal assumptions but just trying to go by what maharaj says. Wouldn't you agree that as soon as we start having our personal view then that is classified as maanmath ?

[Sevadar01]

Also a greater threat of where does this stop ?? How much longer before maanmath like this starts happening at fully blown parties where people are intoxicated ?

[N30S1NGH]

See things in context, it be much better..there are gurbani tuks talks about vismaad and sehaj avastha.

Who can define vismaad avastha in personal life? are they any boundaries? only premi and vahiguroo knows..!!

In Sikhi, vismaad and Sehaj avastha are both blended.

Do search on youtube on samagams--

how's their vismaad movements any different than one above? only one is sitting- vismaad is sprouting out in form of movement - perceived as dancing to a naked eye and other one is standing vismaad is sprouting out in form of movement-perceived as dancing to an naked eye..!!

How one is acceptable in the panth, among youths and other one is not??

Each to their own, live and let live..!!

[Sevadar01]

To be honest i dont really care about the dancing. They could have just had the instrumental on, but having the Bani in there is a no no. Shouldn't we ben trying to follow the teachigs of Shri Guru Granth Shaib Ji Maharaj and take maharaj's advice on this topic ?

May be i have missed something but does maharaj say anything that justifies pysical dancing ?

[N30S1NGH]

From the looks of the video, they may be influenced by hippism which is contary to gurmat but its hard to tell as we cannot judge book by its cover..off course we should and must take maharaj's advise on it as maharaj talks about vismaad and sehaj avastha..look into deeper implications of vismaad and sehaj avastha...do your own search...english translations are just futile does not do justice.

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Just going to wait for the FatboySlim or Deadmaus remix. Appropriation FTW!!!

[JasSinghKhalsa]

From the looks of the video, they may be influenced by hippism which is contary to gurmat but its hard to tell as we cannot judge book by its cover..off course we should and must take maharaj's advise on it as maharaj talks about vismaad and sehaj avastha..look into deeper implications of vismaad and sehaj avastha...do your own search...english translations are just futile does not do justice.

NeoSingh Jee, I respect most of your posts, but this topic, I am a bit touchy.

Dancing on Keertan and Vismaad Avastha, I have seen in Nagar Keertan's, I would say especially Delhi Nagar Keertan Guru Nanak Dev Jee Maharaaj Gurupurab, Keertani Jatha (not the AKJ one, the one in front of Palki Sahib), Granthi Singh Jee age around 80+, used to go in Vismaad Avastha singing and chanting, Dhan Guru Nanak, Keertan, with his feets moving, and literally dancing, face totally red.

I have also seen Marathi Sikhs (in Sehaj Swaroop) in Patna Sahib Gurudwara, bit of dancing, moving forwards and backwards, with Keertan - "Vaho Vaho Gobind Singh Jee", that looked they are in complete love of what they are doing.

I have seen this video as well, Personal opinion - This does not look Vismaad Avastha (I am a Moorakh, don't even do complete Nitnem, so who am I to judge), this looks cheap hippysim, background voice seems to be Snatam Kaur voice. I am not sure whether these people are associated to 3HO or Snatam Kaur or not, but personal opinion again - Spreading Sikhism this way the way they are doing, is it the Gurmat way?

Asa Jee Di Vaar.

Nachan Kuddan man ka chau, Nanak jin man bhou tina man bhau.