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Corruption In Gurdwara Committee - Help Me Make A Change?!

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Depends on how much of a committment you are willing to make to this effort. You have to have the backing man(woman)power to take on this Gurdwara and its committee to engage it in positive change.

Given the granthi is on the committee, the committee is old men and the granthi is very comfortable telling you to your face the reality, it means he is very comfortable knowing the old men will back him up.

I would have suspicions as to what the purpose of this Gurdwara is...it is perhaps an immigration scheme ("contracts with ragis") or more likely, a hangout and social center for the old men in the committee. The Gurdwara is just a means to run a tax exempt business and a place to gather and consolidate some mutual power for the oldies. Given the size of the sangat and the other information provided, I am going to take a big leap here and say this is not a center of parchar.

Given that above information, you are looking an uphill battle. The oldies will not want to change (threat to their social club Gurdwara) and will not accomodate you just because of you or 5 of your friends.

So if you engage, expect argument, fighting and police/legal issues. Unless you are really committed to reforming that Gurdwara and want to make it a diamond of Sikhi parchar (after all, why else is it worth that much effort unless the product is going to be absolutely stellar) are willing to dedicate hours upon hours a week, loads of money and gathering a majority of Sangat to go there long term (you have to outnumber their side by a large margin), this is not really going to be easy in any shape or form.

They right now see you as a minor annoyance. Keep going and pestering them, they will see you as a bigger annoyance. Take 5-10 of you and expect them to start to see you as a threat and approaching you to discourage you from coming. Take more than 10 and expect trouble. Take a Sangat number bigger than theirs, expect legal/physical and other issues and a full on fight.

Sorry for the negativity: Real world experience.

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