Jump to content

does sikhi permit use of contraception with own wife


Guest guest singh
 Share

Recommended Posts

Guest guest singh

I am a young married gursikh. 

me and wifey have kids, can we still continue having bhog of each other using condoms or pills, or is it forbidden as per maryada.

Thank you for enlightening 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sikhi isnt about rules, do and donts, its about reaching the ultimate goal, waheguru. If u find other things in life more important or enjoyable then u have to analyze ur priorities. So u need to prioritize based on ur values: family, health, spirituality, wealth, society...etc

Forcing someone to chanve their priorities doesnt work, leads to pakhand, and other problems

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes of course.  We are  not Muslims it's normal to have a loving intimate relationship. It's not about having children alone. I'd be gutted if my husband when I get married if he only wanted children. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Having a child automatically changes your priorities because you have no option but to care for them and you made that commitment. But marriage is also about closeness between spouses. The Gurus were not against intimacy, they just taught intimacy should be between husband and wife only in a healthy relationship with lifelong commitment. It's up to the couple to decide on family planning and how many kids. I don't think Waheguru wants to burden a family having to look after 14 kids they can't afford when one or two children well looked after is way better. But what do you do after those one or two? Do you stop being a husband and wife and live more like brother and sister at that point? I don't think so otherwise why is marriage for life then? What about after menopause and no children can be created anymore? Should husband and wife cease to be marriage partners at that point and switch to a platonic relation like brother and sister? Sexual relation is not just for procreation but also bonding and it can also be spiritual. It's the closest we can ever hope to understand the union with another entity and that's why it's used as a metaphor in Gurbani so much. It's that powerful but only if it's not misused for only physical pleasure. Then it gets changed to something cheap and meaningless. 

Short answer yes you can use contraception. As long as you remain in stable loving marriage with your spouse. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi
On 2/4/2017 at 11:42 PM, Guest Kaur said:

Having a child automatically changes your priorities because you have no option but to care for them and you made that commitment. But marriage is also about closeness between spouses. The Gurus were not against intimacy, they just taught intimacy should be between husband and wife only in a healthy relationship with lifelong commitment. It's up to the couple to decide on family planning and how many kids. I don't think Waheguru wants to burden a family having to look after 14 kids they can't afford when one or two children well looked after is way better. But what do you do after those one or two? Do you stop being a husband and wife and live more like brother and sister at that point? I don't think so otherwise why is marriage for life then? What about after menopause and no children can be created anymore? Should husband and wife cease to be marriage partners at that point and switch to a platonic relation like brother and sister? Sexual relation is not just for procreation but also bonding and it can also be spiritual. It's the closest we can ever hope to understand the union with another entity and that's why it's used as a metaphor in Gurbani so much. It's that powerful but only if it's not misused for only physical pleasure. Then it gets changed to something cheap and meaningless. 

Short answer yes you can use contraception. As long as you remain in stable loving marriage with your spouse. 

Then wat about homosexual relationships?  Sure they also are equally beautiful then because they too give that closeness and intimacy to gay partners

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi
On 04/02/2017 at 11:42 PM, Guest Kaur said:

Having a child automatically changes your priorities because you have no option but to care for them and you made that commitment. But marriage is also about closeness between spouses. The Gurus were not against intimacy, they just taught intimacy should be between husband and wife only in a healthy relationship with lifelong commitment. It's up to the couple to decide on family planning and how many kids. I don't think Waheguru wants to burden a family having to look after 14 kids they can't afford when one or two children well looked after is way better. But what do you do after those one or two? Do you stop being a husband and wife and live more like brother and sister at that point? I don't think so otherwise why is marriage for life then? What about after menopause and no children can be created anymore? Should husband and wife cease to be marriage partners at that point and switch to a platonic relation like brother and sister? Sexual relation is not just for procreation but also bonding and it can also be spiritual. It's the closest we can ever hope to understand the union with another entity and that's why it's used as a metaphor in Gurbani so much. It's that powerful but only if it's not misused for only physical pleasure. Then it gets changed to something cheap and meaningless. 

Short answer yes you can use contraception. As long as you remain in stable loving marriage with your spouse. 

Sorry but this answer reeks of hypocrisy ! There were no contraceptives in guru's time. So thats why people have many kids and usually stopped their sexual activity once they crossed the family planning phase. There's nothing natural about contraception . Its an unnatural act ! and yes its only for physical pleasure , Having sex for emotional or spiritual benefit is what tantrics do ! we're sikhs 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest Guest Gyaani
On 30 January 2017 at 4:59 PM, Guest guest singh said:

I am a young married gursikh. 

me and wifey have kids, can we still continue having bhog of each other using condoms or pills, or is it forbidden as per maryada.

Thank you for enlightening 

Sex is only for procreation the rest is paap.  Procreation must take place within married life after Anand Karaj between man and woman, the rest is just bs. No need to use artificial means of birth control just practice sikhee.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest London jwaan

Can you clarify where exactly it is said that contraception is banned or that "sex is only for procreation the rest is paap"?

These are dangerous, nonsenical pieces of advice that you are passing on to our community. Based on total unsubstantiated jagsaw interpretations that in this case are no different to Islam.

Contraception is fine between husband and wife and I challenge any fanatic to show evidence to the contrary where it is written that is not.

Ajeetsinghpunjabi where you have written that there was no contraception in guruji time, it is false and a moot point. It's false as there was the rhythm method. Is moot because there were no cars or iPhones either. Using your logic sites that mean using them is against sikhi?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I agree we're not born with sin like the Christians think. Also I agree we have effects of karma. But Gurbani does state that the body contains both sin and charity (goodness): ਕਾਇਆ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਪਾਪੁ ਪੁੰਨੁ ਦੁਇ ਭਾਈ ॥ Within the body are the two brothers sin and virtue. p126 Actually, we do need to be saved. Gurbani calls this "udhaar" (uplift). Without Satguru, souls are liable to spiritual death: ਜਿਨਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨ ਭੇਟਿਓ ਸੇ ਭਾਗਹੀਣ ਵਸਿ ਕਾਲ ॥ p40 Those who have not met Satguru Purakh are unfortunate and liable to death. So, yeah, we do need to be saved, and Guru ji does the saving. The reason Satguru is the one to save is because God has given Satguru the "key" (kunji): ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਥਿ ਕੁੰਜੀ ਹੋਰਤੁ ਦਰੁ ਖੁਲੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਗੁਰੁ ਪੂਰੈ ਭਾਗਿ ਮਿਲਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੭॥ In the True Guru's hand is the key. None else can open the door. By perfect good fortune the Guru is met. p124
    • That's unfortunate to hear. Could you give any more information? Who was this "baba"? He just disappeared with people's money? Obviously, you should donate your money to known institutions or poor people that you can verify the need of through friends and family in Punjab.
    • Sangat ji,  I know a family who went Sevewal to do seva sometimes end of 2019. They returned last year in great dismay and heart broken.  To repent for their mistakes they approached panj pyaare. The Panj gave them their punishment / order to how t make it up which, with Kirpa, they fulfilled.  They were listening to a fake Baba who, in the end, took all the "Donations " and fled sometime over a year ago. For nearly 4 years this family (who are great Gursikhs once u get to know them) wasted time and effort for this fake Baba. NOT ONLY this one fam. But many, many did worldwide and they took their fam to do seva, in village Sevewal, city Jaitho in Punjab. In the end many families lost money in thousands being behind this Baba. The family, on return, had to get in touch with all the participants and told them to stop.  I am stating this here to create awareness and we need to learn from whom we follow and believe. It's no easy but if we follow the 3 S (Sangat, Simran and Seva) we will be shown the light. As I am writing this the family in question have been doing the same since 2008 onwards and they fell for this Baba... it is unbelievable and shocking.  This am writing in a nutshell as am at work on my break so not lengthy but it deserves a great length.  Especially the family in question, who shed light on youngsters about Sikhi 20 plus years!! 
    • Giani Kulwant Singh Jawaddi Kalan uses simple Punjabi.
    • Leaving aside Guru ji, the general question of taking afeem (opium) in limited quantities for war/medical wounds is simply unproblematic. When you go to the hospital, they give you morphine. What do you think morphine is? It's an opiate. Even codeine (cough syrup) is an opiate! Ever had a cough? Granted, it is against Gurmat to take opium or other drugs for the fun of it.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use