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On 1/20/2024 at 7:01 AM, MokhamSingh said:

Many of the words are used in other context, but the Jyot Prakash is the supreme…

There is only one creator, always will be…

Everything else is CREATION…

ਤੇਰੇ ਬੰਕੇ ਲੋਇਣ ਦੰਤ ਰੀਸਾਲਾ  ਸੋਹਣੇ ਨਕ ਜਿਨ ਲੰਮੜੇ ਵਾਲਾ  ਕੰਚਨ ਕਾਇਆ ਸੁਇਨੇ ਕੀ ਢਾਲਾ  ਸੋਵੰਨ ਢਾਲਾ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮਾਲਾ ਜਪਹੁ ਤੁਸੀ ਸਹੇਲੀਹੋ ਜਮ ਦੁਆਰਿ  ਹੋਹੁ ਖੜੀਆ ਸਿਖ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਮਹੇਲੀਹੋ  (ਅੰਗ 567, ਵਡਹੰਸੁ ਮਹਲਾ  )

Today all the Sikhs are insisting that God is only formless, He has no color, no form. But see what Guru Sahib himself is writing. praise of Krishna, your teeth are like pearls. Your nose is very beautiful and you have long hair. Your body is very beautiful, golden shields (royal clothes) adorn it. O friends, if you chant that Krishna's name, you will not have to burn in the hells again. Now maybe someone will argue that this is the praise of Akal Purakh. Bhai Akal Purakh means one who has no size. But Guru Sahib is also telling the beauty of his hair and teeth. Singing the glories of his beautiful form. And you have also named whose glory they are singing.
 Dear brothers, today's Sikhs are sitting in the image of God, according to that thinking, you cannot explain the whole verse. Because according to your thoughts, the verse itself will be contradictory.
But there is no self-contradiction in Pyare Veer Bani. It is clear that Guru Sahib believed that both forms of God, material and formless, were the same. But today's Sikhs believe only one thing and reject the other.

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14 hours ago, Pallav2015 said:

With all due respect if god is formless how did he get all those name ??

who’s is banwali?? 
ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ਘਰੁ ੧  “ਚੇਤਹੁ ਬਾਸੁਦੇਉ ਬਨਵਾਲੀ 
Guru Sahib has also used the name "Banwali" with Basudev. This word means “Remember in the heart Vasudeva Krishna or Vishnu wearing the garland of forest flowers”. Sikh scholars also confuse here and lie that this word is used for formless God. Bhai Sahib, the word "Banwali" means one who garlands the flowers of Ban (Vishnu). Have you ever seen a picture of Vishnu ji or Krishna ji wearing this garland around their neck. Does the formless God also wear this garland. Professor Sahib Singh ji has also played a trick on this page, he gives the wrong meaning of this word. But this Sahib Singh ji explains the real meaning of this Banwali word on another page, see Sahib Singh (Page 997), Banwali = Banmali, garlanded with Ban flower, Vishnu, God.
These things show whether these preachers deliberately misrepresent.
By the way, it is absolutely clear that this name is used for Krishna. But if we also assume that this name is used for his father. "Whose spirit is in their father?" Are these people making fun of Bani? How simple Punjabi is, anyone can read it. Think about it, it is with Punjabi, they are so wrongly translated, what bad situation would the kathavachak have done to the Hindu scriptures?
Now judge for yourself whether it is not impolite to tell a lie in the presence of Guru Sahib. Is it not sacrilegious to twist and misrepresent the words of Guru Sahib?


BANWALI means…the creator of all jungles…BANMALI…the owner of all jungles…

Everything arises from the one and only creator…

Deities were created …they are not CREATOR..

The creator is formless…but can adopt any form too…

Electricity is formless…but can be seen in form of any electrically powered item…

SGGS only praises the Jyot..not deities…

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