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Tuhada Daas jeeo, Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru jee ki fateh! Thank you for bringing this to the attention of the sangat. It is is very disappointing that some members are mocking you for bringing this to the attention of the sangat. All I can say is to ignore them. You have bought this to the attention of the sangat and now we can discuss whether this ghee is acceptable or not in a Gurmat manner with pyaar. There is no need for name calling. Rehit is the lifeline of a Gursikh, from the day we take amrit until the day we leave our human body we strive to obey the hukams of the Panj Piare. Those that take Rehit seriously will more likely have a good Gursikhi jeevan i.e. amritvela, naam abhiyaas, strong nitnem.................................... As for ghee, if this was made from scratch at the Gurdwara there would be no problem. What is happening is that Gurdwaras are trying to finding the easiest and fastest way to prepare food. However if all the food in langar was made from from scratch these problems would be avoided. Nowadays some Gurdwaras obtain such foods such as jalebis from shops which is wrong. How do we know what kind of sucham these shops keep and also meat is also prepared in some indian sweet shops. We need to get back to basics. Instead of making lots of foods for langar keep it simple and fresh. 1 Daal, 1 Saabji, Yoghurt and kheer all use made using fresh ghee and fresh ingredients. Also another important ingredient for langar is naam and baani, Those preparing langar such also do paath and naam abhiyaas instead of gossip and general conversations. All deserts - gulan jaam, jalebi, barfi e.t.c. should be made at the langar kitchen and not from outside. Ghee should be made by the sevadaars also to ensure sucham. I am sure Guru Sahib would have encouraged Gursikhs to prepare fresh food and maintain high level of sucham. Remember this is Guru Ka Langar. Satguru Mehar Karan!

That honey fool needs a beating.

Dear sadsangat. I have been wondering for some time now, and this won't let me sleep as its kept me thinking at night. Was Maharaaj, Guru Nanak Dev Sahib born as a perfect being? Was it later on when Maharaaj when to the river when he got the message from God? or was it in Sachkandh before that the message was passed to Him from God? I am very confused. The sadsangat can only help. Forgive me

I agree with the bhai sahib above. As well as this langar should be served in sarbloh batai and ONLY amridharis must make the food. Now days the Deg is made by non amridharis and this is pure manmat; serious seekers in gurmat naam abiaas should refrain from eating the deg or even langar at the gurdwara if non amridharis make it. Satguru Mehar Karan! Daas Consciousness

ermmmm. Bhaji, i never said you were wrong. "In the Vaar Sri Bhaugati Ji Ki, it says as above that both armies faced each other. further on in pauri 23, Guru Ji writes that "both armies came prepared for war..."

Drink ever and ever and be washed all inside, O mystic! All men of piety are raising a howl, go into silence, O mystic!

Sri Guru Nanak Dev Nirankar is sargun/nirgun saroop of Vahiguroo....!!!!!! That deliverance was maharaj leela- play an act showing importance of nirgun vahiguroo....!!

A big warning to all dont do anything without serious advice.....did you know too much use of haldi can block your arteries and sit in certain areas of the circulatory system....dont take advice from here.....put haldi on your clothes lets see you wash it off easily. Similarly i can permannetly remain in your body.

If you don't agree with me, or think I am wrong, there is no need to mock me. Please do ardaas to guide me onto the right path! I am not trying to act like any 'panthic police' or authority, I just put my views and a request based on those views forward. Once again I am a nyana bacha and invite you to educate me. 'foolish ji', as far as I am aware ethanol is not actually present in fruit and neither is it natural. Maybe I am wrong. Please forgive my mistakes.

Nothing but the praise of the True One comes to my tongue. Your heart, O Goya, has achieved the ultimate of life.

Ah the nitty-gritties lol. Meh, I'd rather go to a rehnsbhayee than dance bhangra anyway :cool2:

Here is katha of Ten Avasthas of Naam Jap during Sant Attar Singh Mustaneywale Barsi by Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawale..its pretty deep..must listen..i though i share.

Here is the list i compiled long time ago of ways of doing naam simran from all jathas/samparda in the panth

Khalsa Ji Anand is very difficult to describe in terms of words. Imagine the following scenario: A young child , who cannot yet speak , is given something very pleasant to eat. Then the child is asked to describe the taste. The only indications available would be the child's smile , glowing face , and self satisfaction since the child does not have the ability to describe it verbally. The state of Anand is similar to that. With regards to spiritual phall , one will feel increased self confidence. The mann becomes more focused. The mann's desires will begin to be fulfilled automatically {ridh sidh}. Life generally will become more blissful. One will feel closer to Sat chit Anand Ishvar {eternal bliss}.