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Everything happens in Waheguru's will brother. Waheguru gives the baba and followers life. Waheguru also takes their lives away. People cannot break their past karams. As gurbani says multiple times, we eat what we harvest.

Sadly when Singhs do take matters into their own hands and do sodha of these pakhandi Babas/Gurus then all the people get disturbed watching the sodha. And some even start name calling like Khaliban to such great Singhs like the Ajnala Jatha and the Satkar Committee.

Hi, I have recently uploaded some some old recording of Giani Darshan Singh Sohal:

And I laughed out loud at at this. Are you joking? You know exactly what he meant by "how will we survive", and your comment is a perfect illustration of a 'holier than thou' Sikh finding stuff to be indignant about where there is none. Do you eat God's will with your roti? Do you drink God's will when you're feeling thirsty? I doubt it, it's quite difficult to log onto an internet forum and be extremely patronizing to people when you've starved to death. Don't hide your questionable ideas behind a veneer of profundity or Gurmat. Our Guru is all powerful, but there is no precedent in Gurbani for living your life like a passive sea cucumber just waiting for God to do everything for you.

interesting nearly all are to do with two faiths history SIkhi and Buddism ....let's grab up their historical evidence so they cannot claim anything ...we can rewrite the history to suit us (Hindians).. Apparentely the SHiv sena is planning to take over all Delhi's historical gurdwarey , their sikh wing has been sitting down to plan strategy in delhi...Time for Delhi's sheep sikhs to wake up and protect their gurdwarey.

ਸਲੋਕੁ ॥ सलोकु ॥ Salok. Shalok: ਮਾਇਆ ਡੋਲੈ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧੀ ਮਨੁ ਲਪਟਿਓ ਤਿਹ ਸੰਗ ॥ माइआ डोलै बहु बिधी मनु लपटिओ तिह संग ॥ Mā▫i▫ā dolai baho biḏẖī man lapti▫o ṯih sang. Maya clings to the mind, and causes it to waver in so many ways. ਮਾਗਨ ਤੇ ਜਿਹ ਤੁਮ ਰਖਹੁ ਸੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮਹਿ ਰੰਗ ॥੧॥ मागन ते जिह तुम रखहु सु नानक नामहि रंग ॥१॥ Māgan ṯe jih ṯum rakẖahu so Nānak nāmėh rang. ||1|| When You, O Lord, restrain someone from asking for wealth, then, O Nanak, he comes to love the Name. ||1|| ਪਉੜੀ ॥ पउड़ी ॥ Pa▫oṛī. Pauree: ਮਮਾ ਮਾਗਨਹਾਰ ਇਆਨਾ ॥ ममा मागनहार इआना ॥ Mamā māganhār i▫ānā. MAMMA: The beggar is so ignorant - ਦੇਨਹਾਰ ਦੇ ਰਹਿਓ ਸੁਜਾਨਾ ॥ देनहार दे रहिओ सुजाना ॥ Ḏenhār ḏe rahi▫o sujānā. the Great Giver continues to give. He is All-knowing. ਜੋ ਦੀਨੋ ਸੋ ਏਕਹਿ ਬਾਰ ॥ जो दीनो सो एकहि बार ॥ Jo ḏīno so ekėh bār. Whatever He gives, He gives once and for all. ਮਨ ਮੂਰਖ ਕਹ ਕਰਹਿ ਪੁਕਾਰ ॥ मन मूरख कह करहि पुकार ॥ Man mūrakẖ kah karahi pukār. O foolish mind, why do you complain, and cry out so loud? ਜਉ ਮਾਗਹਿ ਤਉ ਮਾਗਹਿ ਬੀਆ ॥ जउ मागहि तउ मागहि बीआ ॥ Ja▫o māgėh ṯa▫o māgėh bī▫ā. Whenever you ask for something, you ask for worldly things; ਜਾ ਤੇ ਕੁਸਲ ਨ ਕਾਹੂ ਥੀਆ ॥ जा ते कुसल न काहू थीआ ॥ Jā ṯe kusal na kāhū thī▫ā. no one has obtained happiness from these. ਮਾਗਨਿ ਮਾਗ ਤ ਏਕਹਿ ਮਾਗ ॥ मागनि माग त एकहि माग ॥ Māgan māg ṯa ekėh māg. If you must ask for a gift, then ask for the One Lord. ਨਾਨਕ ਜਾ ਤੇ ਪਰਹਿ ਪਰਾਗ ॥੪੧॥ नानक जा ते परहि पराग ॥४१॥ Nānak jā ṯe parėh parāg. ||41|| O Nanak, by Him, you shall be saved. ||41|| SGGS Ang 258

Gupt thaur te chup kite hoye ah kam karna chaida hai Bideo banaun di koi lour ni.

I think when such people get caught the best punishment for them that the judge should give is they should be made to do seva at the Gurdwara and they should be made to attend classes on Gurmat and Sikh scriptures for at least a year. This way the hate and ignorance will subside and who knows maybe Mahraj might even do kirpa on them.

One of my top 10 kirtanis - Heard this first 20 odd years ago now, what an amazing shabad.

Thank you friends! Guru Sahib is saving me from this situation by many ardaases. You are all gursikhs and it is rather you all that I love as my brothers and sisters, not some girl. Waheguru! Thank you friends! Guru Sahib is saving me from this situation by many ardaases. You are all gursikhs and it is rather you all that I love as my brothers and sisters, not some girl. Waheguru!

Dear wahegurubhagatsingh, Sat sree Akal, from your post you seem to be quite young, and a truthful and a brave person, which are praiseworthy noble virtues, keep them up, they will help you a lot during your life. Your post has two sections. one is swarthee or worldly, for which i would definetely suggest you to apart from asking here in the forum, ask your parents for guidance, as they are your best well wishers after Wahiguru. And they are not our well wsihers only when we are young, but for throughout our lives. The second one is parmarathee, and the hukumnama you have presented, is indeed, the essence of Gurmat, let us see a bit about it: Serving the True Guru, the divine melody wells up within, and one is blessed with wisdom and salvation. So here what is that serving the True Guru? Serving the True Guru means, doing the sewa, the bhakti of the true Guru. And as we know, the True Guru is the formless Wahiguru in his Shabad or Nam swaroop. So how do we serve this Shabad Guru? Of course, it is not possible physically, but by our chit, which is same in nature as Shabad Dhun, and this is achieved by doing His Simran alone. The True Name of the Lord comes to abide in the mind, and through the Name, one merges in the Name. This is true also, as Third Patsahhee tells us in His paviter Bani of Anand Sahib: Nam jinke man vaseeya, vaajeh Shabad ganere. If we firmly establish the Nam Simran within us, we shall listen to the Gurbani, the Shabad Dhun, the Nam within us, which is reverbearing within us all the 24 hours non stop. This is the Bani, the Amrit of which Gurbani talks about in the begining of Asa kee War. Which by listening to it, or we can say thus drinking it, through the hearing sense of our soul, that we become immortal and never again come into a mother´s womb. Without the True Guru, the whole world is insane. The True Guru is the Bani, the Shabad, which is within us, which guides us and which by boarding onto it, by its simran, we are carried by It, and thus reach our heavenly abode of Sach Khand. withiut ths understanding of the Bani, we are just as good as ritualistics, fanatic orthodoxs ...thus blinded by our manmaat, bexcuse we do not follow Gurmat, but rather, what we are mistakenly told to what Sikhee is about ..... Not by our wise Guru Sahibans, but by fellow moorakh people like us.... But one who becomes Gurmukh comes to realize the fourth state of celestial bliss; he finds peace through the Name of the Lord O Nanak, through the Lord's Name, one is emancipated; through the Shabad, he is rid of egotism. Here Guru Jee is telling us, that we become Gurmukhs in true sense, by the jap of His Nam, and thus reach the plane of Supreme and permanent Bliss, and being free from the cycle of births and deaths forever. Then also our hankar and all the other 4 vikaars get dissolved, with the power of Nam. God bless you. Sat Sree Akal.