THE WARRIOR

Devotion leads Humans to do many things in pursuit……for me the only problem I have is when devotion is really knowingly deception. Calculated Motivation in this scenario is extremely damaging from the top too bottom, From the instigators to the followers and we have many of those.. Primarily the message of Guru Ji is fundamental and ritualism secondary. However people behave differently and worship differently, no two people can do Simran exactly the same as each other, it’s totally impossible. Similarly true devotees are devote differently, they don’t care they’re just in love constantly so here they understand the spiritual message and also do the ritualism, just the way people are. Those that frown and seem it to be bizarre really need to understand this; it could be they are suffering from ritualism of their own stagnant mentality.

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By killing yourself you remain in a hellish state without the ability to take control. You’ll remain transfixed by those tendencies that drove you to suicide. This is a worse situation. You may think it’s a way out but it’s drowning deeper in to the problem without an end, you don’t go anywhere you just remain there, longing to be physical…. for how long? Who knows! days, weeks, years even thousands of years. You may want to think about that and get the help you need before you make a wrong conclusion.

I tie my one by folding it first so there is a opening at the top to place smaller shastars in, tying around the waist to the back then twist it, but not in a knot, then run it in opposite directions tucking in the loose material at the ends. Larger shastars slide all the way via the waist side, belly and back etc, smaller ones sit in the pouch.

As others have said its better he reflects the reality of what he really is, rather than something he isn’t. Gurbani tells us “Jeeio melae, baro nirmal” inside me remain polluted yet project the garbs of a Saint. Everyone’s pain and destiny is their own no two are alike. In time he may come back we must always make sure the door remains open. To slam the door shut is spontaneous, once it is shut it remains shut you don’t think of it anymore. If the door remains open consciously you are always aware that he and many others may come back, so someone remains there always to great them, watching the door for lost flock.

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Even though we wear Shastars, we should be equipped to defend ourselves without having to use them at the street level as Gurbar has said “minimum force” is required to get the job done. This being the most likely situation. Even in the eyes of the law minimum force constitutes a slap or a punch back etc. Using a Shastar has wider consequences with far reaching implications for the community…..but I still think upnai are hopeless fighters. I grappled with a “Gatka Ustad” a few weeks ago. No offence to Bhai Sahib or ant gatka practitioner, and I made my views known to him after to be honest and open, all I can say is if this is the art form that builds the backbone of Khalsa Warrior Culture I‘m very very disappointed. `

I’ve seen people hold and use weapons, everything is in the weapon, the whole being puts everything in to the weapon. Once the weapons gone the person becomes naked unable to do anything because they have no fight science attributes themselves. Upnai are incredibly bad fighters, even at scraping bloody awful, it embarrassing. Fitness levels are atrocious. I’ve even seen buff Singhs throw sissy punches; my thunder punch He-man from back in the day would’ve put them to shame!

Freed, what's the Nihang Singh Spearing?

A bit of a turn off for me, when he says- “give me a son, I’ll make him in to a true GurSikh” Maybe it’s just me, and saying thinking such things is harmless, I don’t know maybe others could comment. Maybe I just dwelled too much on it. Otherwise a good attempt at a feel good factor film. A move towards the right direction in regards to Panjabi films, cinema etc. I hope you don’t mind the small criticism, I am not trying to turn something positive in to something negative

Nice post Mehtab Singh, keep them coming. Differs so much from the anti-hindu anti bramin claptrap we’re so used to on this forum.

If AKJs don’t believe in Dasam Granth ji in its entirety, there should be no surprises here, I’ll rock the boat further and say they don’t believe in Guru Granth Sahib ji in its entirety either. There are bigger issues afoot like the catastrophic damage that has been done to the natural balance around the world, if people want a cause make it this one. Grow trees people the world remains unchanged by the AKJ stance and couldn’t care less.

Amazing love the pictures of the paintings from Gurdwara Baba Atal Rai, looking at the kamerkasa worn by the various warriors I can make out a kattar, pesh, choora and a small tabar. The signature weapons are also most impressive a Gada ( mace of Hanuman) of all things I wonder who would have the skill and power to use one today, very few I would imagine. Thanks Freed ji

First the paranoid minds denied they even existed, Now the paranoid minds except that they do exist. By using Gurbani they state the case of existence then to use it to reject them this is more to establish a paranoid popular opinion rather than to find fundamental truth. The truth is everything in Sargun creation is true, even if tending to error in our opinion which we tend to take as gospel reality, but is it? Self deception is a living hell…….deception disguised as devotion.

Just looking at it stirs me inside, beyond explanation. As Gurbar said I hope someway, somehow, somebody upnai for once see the urgency of the matter and do something constructive.

What ever the situation it’s only when a person takes responsibility for their actions can they take a step towards a the cure. Punjab is suffering from denial its become the unstoppable pandemic. There’s more religious this and that per square foot, more than any place on this earth, but all this suffering continues……obviously something’s not working. No great science here or brumgiani stuff, a bit of commonsense is all that is required.

I suggest they learn to swim consciously its very difficult to drown in a river that does not exist.

Are they being drowned or are they choosing to jump in?

Supply and demand, this business like any other has to have a demand base. There is demand so it flourishes whether people like it or not it’s not about to disappear too soon. I can see “mainstream Sikhi” or “mainstream popular mentality” being marginalised within the coming years which really is reflective of the damage that is being done both by government central and local and Sikh institutions primarily the SGPC and some missionary style organisations.

hasn’t krav maga only been around since the 1900? From what I understand it’s a hybrid of other fighting styles with no form of it's own?

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I am not saying to have a specific apathy towards the Naamdharis, but I am implying that we need more of a critical awareness of what we could essentially be supporting. Naamdari or Taksali we are all primarily the same, if we cant even understand this there is no point bothering with any thing else. Equality, opportunity, diversity are just some of the unique qualities of Sikhi and the some of the gospels of humanity. We are just entangled in moral judgement for all sorts of reason but there are no credits in judging fellow beings.

Naamdhari may possess some outstanding “rocking” classical raag skills but shouldn’t we be intelligent enough to realize that they also publicly recognise a human Guru who openly makes a claim that he is the Sikh Guru, not the naamdhari Guru but the Guru who is carrying the Gurgaddi for Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj. Based on that simple fact and that no other group/individual makes such a direct claim, I fail to see why some Sikh Gurdwara give them a platform or Sikhs overlook this. Is it not what they call “a conflict of interest”? Indifference is a disease, look around so many are suffering from it.

Naamdhari Kirtan Rocks!!

I have friends who are police officers they believe that institutional racism still exists within the force. True The Steven Lawrence inquiry did highlight the problems of institutional Racism within the met and other forces across the country. Macpherson severely criticised the police about it handling of the investigation and the deep rooted institutional racism which was its cause. According to my friends who serve in the Met and Thames valley constabularies it’s more of a case watching what you say rather than educating the Police about diversity and equality. They claim stereotyping on the grounds of race, culture, ethnicity still exists even more so after 9/11 and the London bombings but its just a case of being aware of what an individual officer may say and do that may bring them and the force into disrepute.